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I think I'm done with 5/64" 12wrap 28 gauge coils in the KFL. I'm going to try my previous size 3/32" with around 8 wraps. I'm not getting a satisfying enough vape out of the 2mm coils with the NET's I'm using and I'm having to change the wicks on a daily basis so far because they can't keep up.

One of the reasons I love the KFL is for the awesome flavour and those coils ain't getting me that.

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You know, seems all these setup we try work. Not for everyone, but at least someone. Not sure why that is...technique, personal taste, the way we use it, etc... But if you find something that works for you then stay with it. At least you gave it a try.
 

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truman...looks real nice. If it's hitting good and keeping up with your vape (not dry hitting), then don't monkey with it. If you get dry hits, then try reducing the cotton a little. Don't be afraid to change the cotton when you think it is getting a little funky. It's easy to do. Hell, change it after each tank. Doesn't hurt anything.
 

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Ok my mistake. My build wasn't 10 wraps at 1.5 ohms, they where 7 wraps at 1.1ohms. I had used my multimeter wrong on the KF I fixed and it was reading 1.5 ohms so I was assuming 10 wraps. Did a 10 wrap on my 2nd KF and sure enough it came out at 1.5ohms but when I went back to my other KF and double checked the resistance it read 1.1ohms. So I put the 7 wrap coil I removed from this KF back into it (was careful not to mess up the legs when I took it off).

Here are the pics:

Coil height:
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Coil position:
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The important part, the cotton. Notice this is just a piece pulled off from the cotton ball and slightly pressed together to give it a smooth shape, no twisting at all. The puff has nothing but straight fibers going through. The only part I roll is the tip to help thread it through the coil. When pulling it through the coil it never bunches up on it, it goes right through with a bit of resistance no need to roll it to help it through and it sits in there pretty lose actually:
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How I rest the tails on the deck, again notice no rolling on the cotton, its just a flowing line of long fibers:
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Sitting in the chamber, made sure not to catch the tails on the threads and that no cotton got in the channels when tightening down the chamber:
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Another part that I believe is absolutely key. I saturate the hell out of it, I keep pouring juice down the sides until the look soaked and some juice is actually pouring out the sides of the juice channels. I also lay various drops on the elbows that go into the coil and 2 or 3 drops over the coil itself. Some juice comes out of my air hole doing this sometimes but that is not a major issue, just blow it out once you put the tank on:
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So yeah, thats how I'm currently running them and man they are giving me one wet tasty vape even at 15 watts. At 15 watts I do make sure I do a pretty strong pull, not overly strong but I don't hit it softly and I fire it right when I start inhaling, no pre-heating needed, total puff time around 2 or 3 seconds. It gives a pretty solid, flavorful warm vape instantly and it hasn't shown signs of drying up or burning on me yet.


EDIT: As a reference, running mechanically on a fully charged battery it runs at 13 watts flat at 3.8v under load. Tapers down to 11 watts when the battery reads 3.5v under load.

EDIT2: I'd like to also point out that with my vaping technique (pressing the button as I start inhaling, 2 - 3 second hits) I feel the coil gurgle a tiny bit after half a second when it heats up letting me know that its nice and wet.
 
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I'm actually doing a similar build, but I run my coil perpendicular to the posts, instead of diagonally. Cotton prepped the same way. My cotton drapes down the sides, and the cut ends are sitting in the juice channels. IMO, the cut ends seem to wick better. I agree that juicing it up well is key. I've had the KFL+ for a couple of weeks now, and this set up is very consistent, no dry hits, no gurgles, just great from the first vape to the last drop!


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Indeed Bryan. If you're going with silica on a regulated mod then 30ga around 1.8 - 2.2 ohms is noticeably better than 28 ga. It just is.

See, that's where we all differ, and we use what works for us. I much prefer 28g to 30g, on Kayfuns. I build mine at 1/16 diameter, 1.2 ohms.
 

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I'm actually doing a similar build, but I run my coil perpendicular to the posts, instead of diagonally. Cotton prepped the same way. My cotton drapes down the sides, and the cut ends are sitting in the juice channels. IMO, the cut ends seem to wick better. I agree that juicing it up well is key. I've had the KFL+ for a couple of weeks now, and this set up is very consistent, no dry hits, no gurgles, just great from the first vape to the last drop!


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I position them diagonally and rest them across the deck because that's how I've always done them. I feel that just draping them down where the tips lay over the channels leaves some area for to much juice to gather and have no where to go but down the air hole eventually when they are laying sideways or moving around in my pockets or back pack constantly. Couldn't say because I've never run them like that but hey they are working perfectly for me right now, no wicking issues whatsoever for the past hour.
 

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I position them diagonally and rest them across the deck because that's how I've always done them. I feel that just draping them down where the tips lay over the channels leaves some area for to much juice to gather and have no where to go but down the air hole eventually when they are laying sideways or moving around in my pockets or back pack constantly. Couldn't say because I've never run them like that but hey they are working perfectly for me right now, no wicking issues whatsoever for the past hour.

Whatever works for us, right? Got my idea from a Pbusardo review.


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See, that's where we all differ, and we use what works for us. I much prefer 28g to 30g, on Kayfuns. I build mine at 1/16 diameter, 1.2 ohms.

Well, we're not exactly the same. Bryan and I are using our Provaris, silica wick, and close to 2-ohm. This has worked best using 30ga. I wont pretend to know what works best under most configurations. I use 28ga in my Phoenix RBA's (1.0 ohms) now that I am using a mech. It's perfect. I haven't got to it yet, but I will be making a similar 28ga coil for my Kayfun in the next couple of days.
 

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You get your Neme today?

Indeed, I did Oh Demented One! Vaped from it for a few hours with a Phoenix atop filled with W2V's London (a NET). So far so good. 28ga, 1.5mm ID, 8-wrap, 1.0 ohms with cotton wick. Hits nice. Warm to be sure but I'm tolerating it so far. I'll get around to putting the Kayfun on it soon and will post here. Meanwhile, I posted my initial impressions using the Phoenix on the HHV hardware thread.

She's one classy mech!!! I'm glad I listened to all those who recommended it (incl. you). :)
 

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So I think I figured our my lack of flavor problem...a lack of air, after a jetting adjustment opening the air screw 1/2 turn I found the flavor, not a big fan of the airy draw, but it sure helped the flavor and vapor production. In regards to the don't twist your wick method, i do twist mine and never had anything even resembling a dry hit, even with the thick Bobas Bounty. I did one build with 30ga and did notice the coil fire much quicker than with 28ga, i woulda thought it would have been the other way around, puzzling...I'd think you'd want the quicker fire up time, next build gonna go back to the 30 in the same resistance and see what I get. Keep those tips and tricks coming fellas...thanks again.
 
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