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Well I used a bit more cotton, pulled the wicks up, screwed on the lower portion of the chimney, cut the wicks slightly above the chimney, carefully placed the wick ends into the chamber, primed the wick, screwed on the top portion of the chimney, reinstalled tank section, filled her up, checked resistance(still at 1.25ohms), blew into it 3 times, and vaped.

Well after 10 good pulls, no dry hits. The wicking must be working, because im pretty sure the initial saturation of the wick must have been vaporized by now. The AFC is screw is flush with the bottom, and the draw is a lot better.

Thanks everyone for the help, and feedback.

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So now the important question.
What do you think about its performance?
 

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A quote from somebody smarting than me " It is hard to mess up a kayfun" I roll my wicks real tight and you (and most people do not roll wicks tight) and it works for both of us....thats all that counts. However how you have yours setup we may end up with about the same amount of cotton as I only hang down touching the deck.
This is how I wick when I'm doing horizontal coils.

I never roll my cotton to squish it. I tear out a lump of cotton, and smooth it out towards both ends to get it skinnier and stop when it's slighter fatter than my coils. At this point the cotton is completely fluffy still. Then I roll it very very very lightly; it's to get it in shape (cylindrical), not to squish it so that it fits. Once it's in, I can very very easily slide my cotton to and fro without resistance from the coil

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Snip off excess:
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Fold the little end over. Juicing the wick makes it super easy to shape it
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Works like a charm for me; and I never get dry hits. Also using 1/16 drill bit at either 15watts or 19 watts.




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This is how I wick when I'm doing horizontal coils.

I never roll my cotton to squish it. I tear out a lump of cotton, and smooth it out towards both ends to get it skinnier and stop when it's slighter fatter than my coils. At this point the cotton is completely fluffy still. Then I roll it very very very lightly; it's to get it in shape (cylindrical), not to squish it so that it fits. Once it's in, I can very very easily slide my cotton to and fro without resistance from the coil

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Works like a charm for me; and I never get dry hits. Also using 1/16 drill bit at either 15watts or 19 watts.




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What wire are you using? That looks cool
 

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A quote from somebody smarting than me " It is hard to mess up a kayfun" I roll my wicks real tight and you (and most people do not roll wicks tight) and it works for both of us....thats all that counts. However how you have yours setup we may end up with about the same amount of cotton as I only hang down touching the deck.

Oh no no I wasn't saying you did yours wrong and mine was right. I just thought we were sharing our wicking and I just jumped right in :D

In any case the most important part about "amount" of cotton isn't really about the amount of wick at the end, more of how much wick is stuffed within the coil. When people refer to a coil/wicked getting choked, it's because the cotton in the coil is so compressed that juice have a hard time getting wicked to the cotton within the coil. This becomes even more important when you have thick juice or those with a ton of particulate matter like Boba's.


ETA: I must qualify myself. The amount of cotton at the deck def does matter of course. Just not what I was referring to hahahaha


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What wire are you using? That looks cool

Oh! It's triple 32gauge twisted kanthal. 3 strands of 32ga, very very tightly twisted using a handdrill.

Used to scoff at all the bold claims about twisted wires; I hate exaggerated claims about new builds/products etc. until I tried it myself. It's all I ever use these days.


P.s. those pictures were taken months ago. Just happened to find them in my camera roll :p


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Oh! It's triple 32gauge twisted kanthal. 3 strands of 32ga, very very tightly twisted using a handdrill.

Used to scoff at all the bold claims about twisted wires; I hate exaggerated claims about new builds/products etc. until I tried it myself. It's all I ever use these days.


P.s. those pictures were taken months ago. Just happened to find them in my camera roll :p


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Think I saw a vid a whole back of some dude in a garage with a dewalt: that's the finished product?
 

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Yup! There are endless permutations of wires: diff number of round wires, diff number of diff gauges in 1, ribbon only, multiple ribbons, ribbon + twisted, multiple twisted ribbon counter twisted together....

Heheh

This might also be clearer :) same triple 32. Kinda looks like a metallic ekowool
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No we agree....there are alot of ways to setup a kayfun.....as long as it wicks and works then all is good. I take pointers from all the posters and then use what works best for me....
Oh no no I wasn't saying you did yours wrong and mine was right. I just thought we were sharing our wicking and I just jumped right in :D

In any case the most important part about "amount" of cotton isn't really about the amount of wick at the end, more of how much wick is stuffed within the coil. When people refer to a coil/wicked getting choked, it's because the cotton in the coil is so compressed that juice have a hard time getting wicked to the cotton within the coil. This becomes even more important when you have thick juice or those with a ton of particulate matter like Boba's.


ETA: I must qualify myself. The amount of cotton at the deck def does matter of course. Just not what I was referring to hahahaha


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Awesome!!!!!!
So now the important question.
What do you think about its performance?

Right up there with my old KF 3.1. The draw is a bit tighter, since i ran my 3.1 without the AFC screw. The flavor is rich, and warm, which is the way I like it.

Looking forward to receiving my second one tomorrow, to see how it does with my current coiling and wicking method.


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I also don't think these have to be setup picture perfect to get good results. I am surprised sometimes when people come in and post they cant get it working right. Maybe because I have set them up so many times... i could probably set one up with my eyes closed now.

My father in law was vaping right along on one I setup for him like 5 weeks ago....
 

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I also don't think these have to be setup picture perfect to get good results. I am surprised sometimes when people come in and post they cant get it working right. Maybe because I have set them up so many times... i could probably set one up with my eyes closed now.

My father in law was vaping right along on one I setup for him like 5 weeks ago....

That still shocks me the cotton lasts that long or the coil without dry burning.
Then again I vape allot of darker juices; coffees, vanilla beans and I know those are total coil eaters. My coil will last a while but it gets dry burned on a daily basis.
 
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You mentioned you change your wick every refill..... I have found the vape gets even better a I run a take of juice through it.....just a thought....

Hmmmm I'll have to try that and see how it works out. I was having issues with my kanger coils bit holding up for long; which, was what made me make the initial switch to RBAs; so I've been kind of vigilant and a freak about being extra careful about the setup.
 

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The juice he is using in that setup is 25% flavor also maple walnut I think had to give everything a good cleaning when I took it apart.... All my juices are alcohol bases 2.5% flavor
That still shocks me the cotton lasts that long or the coil without dry burning.
Then again I vape allot of darker juices; coffees, vanilla beans and I know those are total coil eaters. My coil will last a while but it gets dry burned on a daily basis.
 

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Lol. It's all in the juice. This is from 3 quarter tank of custard + coffee. It was naaaaasty

Coffee juices kills my juice the fastest.


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Looks familiar. I had a tiramisu a few weeks back that did that too me. Tasted great but when I saw that I was glad I didn't spring for a 30ml bottle.
More I think about it though I'm gonna try mrgrick's move and see how this vanilla custard holds up with the cotton for a few tanks. I almost feel bad changing out the cotton sometimes; because, it'll look good but my OCD kicks in and info throwing it a way and cleaning the deck and all like a total freak.
 

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I was rebuilding my kanger coils with cotton before I switched over to kayfun
Hmmmm I'll have to try that and see how it works out. I was having issues with my kanger coils bit holding up for long; which, was what made me make the initial switch to RBAs; so I've been kind of vigilant and a freak about being extra careful about the setup.
 
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