I still abide by the less is more theory. It really seems to clog the chamber if I use too much with the fat wire. Thanks btw, you taught me how to set these up
Great videos sir!Master of Bassets...and not much else.
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I still abide by the less is more theory. It really seems to clog the chamber if I use too much with the fat wire. Thanks btw, you taught me how to set these up
Great videos sir!Master of Bassets...and not much else.
Andrea sounds good but there is one thing that is hard to show or explain, and that's the right amount of cotton. As long as you are starting out with a decent coil then the rest is experimenting on the wicks. for me personally I feel like you might not have enough cotton in the coil if the description is that the cotton is barely touching the coil sides. it is a fine line in the correct amounts but once you get it, you got it.
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And actually there is a range that works. It's not vast, but it's enough where you don't have to be perfect. I would not put it in the finicky category (like gennys).
Yes I do too actually, although I surmise they maybe able to handle more but would be especially hard to thread it into one of those coil. like wise with twisted strands, I just feel like they breath more and also could probably handle slightly more wicking material but like you, I still use the same that has worked for me before. Thanks buddyI still abide by the less is more theory. It really seems to clog the chamber if I use too much with the fat wire. Thanks btw, you taught me how to set these up
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I now feel that way because I know exactly those amounts but for those who have not quite perfected the amounts, it certainly would seem to be something that needs to be exact. All in all this is the most finicky part of the kayfun
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I agree, completely. I was all terrified of "coil building," but I found that twisting a piece of wire around a drill bit is the easiest part of it, even the compressing thing is just a further refinement of something that isn't really hard. But getting the right amount of wick.. that is definitely a real challenge for a newbie like me. But I think I'm definitely getting better at it; this one so far seems very good. I had one dry-ish hit but it was at the very beginning of use, like maybe the wick just hadn't broken in well yet. Also I closed the airflow just a bit more, so that more juice and less air would be sucked thru, and it seems to be working very well.
And as for FT... @Bronze... that's exactly the kind of scenario that would drive me right around the bend, and I'd be whining like a 5 yr old in need of a nap -- which is also hugely to be avoided! So for anything that I'd rather have sooner than later, I'll order from a US source -- unless it's something that I really really want but really really can't afford at US prices; then, I might bite the bullet and go ahead and order from FT and take my chances on the wait. Otherwise, I really would prefer to pay a bit more and wait a bit less.
Andria
I'm a perfectionist so I was building coils a few times daily until I got the hang of it. My current coils is 28g 10 wraps at 1.5ohms. Now figuring out 'how much cotton to use' has always been a different story. You can have a MONEY built coil, but it won't perform well if the cotton amount isn't correct
I have been using this same setup for 6 months now. 5/4 (1.3 ohm)using 30 kanthal without issue and vaping at 15 watts on new dna30. Before that vaping at 14 watts with a zmax. Zero issues on any of my kayfuns. After breaking it down last night and new rebuild (same setup) and replacing all the orings.... All is good vaping at 15 watts on my second tank fill now just like my other 2 kayfuns. Also have set this up for four other vapers and working fine for them. I don't see any issues with the coil or cotton setup. Thanks for all the input all is well again.
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AndriaD, glad to hear you took the suggestion to go with more wraps to get a wider coil. Sounds like once you've gotten it wicked well you'll be good. The amount of material may be the same but in a Kayfun wider is better, within reason. Too wide runs the risk of shorting against the chimney, but even 10 wrap coils aren't in that range.
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Oh so true but at least your coil is perfect. that 28g 10 wrapper is as good as it gets.
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Couldn't agree more. I tried a 12 wrap vertical chimney coil but the TH on that was just too much. I do add a flavor wick to my horizontal builds that hangs over on each well... someone had stated that the flavor wick actually mutes the flavor? Anyone that can chime in on this?
I meant to add, diverr... the wick actually was touching the inside of the coil all around, but it pulled easily; someone recently said something to the effect that pulling the wick thru should not cause your standing mod to topple over, and that's it precisely, it touched, but didn't drag. And I didn't really "roll" it, or only just very lightly, to smooth it, but little compression on it, except at the end that went into the coil. I thought it seemed pretty good, how easily it moved in the coil, but from the side I could see it was touching, all around it. Even after added some juice so I could place the ends neatly, it looked just about right in the coil. And it does seem to vape well, though I find I need to take priming puffs from time to time -- not every time or it would flood for sure, but maybe every 3-4 hits.
I'm hoping that rayon might solve a lot of this.
Andria
I'm hoping that rayon might solve a lot of this.
Andria
I think Fasttech has been trying to 'step it up' a bit over the last few months. I've placed a few orders with them over the past year and the service is getting much better.
I can't really vouch for much of their their vape gear because I've mostly ordered flashlight stuffs for His Highness (they have a Cree that will light up the moon if you want, 13000-Lumen!) but drip tips, M-tanks, (and I'll confess, a crystal Magneto that works beautifully) and things like that have gone from 5 weeks to arrive down to a week. Not bad.
Will I buy KayFuns from them? Probably not. I save up and buy originals because although the 2 clones I tried from Artemis were fine, they just don't compare - to me, and life's too short to fuss if you don't have to.
(1 original KayFun = only 9.5 packs of analogs when I was smoking. What a bargain!)
I can't really vouch for much of their their vape gear because I've mostly ordered flashlight stuffs for His Highness (they have a Cree that will light up the moon if you want, 13000-Lumen!) but drip tips, M-tanks, (and I'll confess, a crystal Magneto that works beautifully) and things like that have gone from 5 weeks to arrive down to a week. Not bad.
Will I buy KayFuns from them? Probably not. I save up and buy originals because although the 2 clones I tried from Artemis were fine, they just don't compare - to me, and life's too short to fuss if you don't have to.
(1 original KayFun = only 9.5 packs of analogs when I was smoking. What a bargain!)
Well, I've been over reading the Rayon thread... I'm convinced. Going to buy some on my way home today and try it out. Will report ASAP as far as vs Cotton. My only concerns are certain aspects of 'inhaling' rayon by-products.
All I can say is with more wick coverage the vape will be better and would be able to handle more power if needed. like I said before, I'm not saying that a 4 or 5 wrap couldn't work, it just wouldn't work as good, especially flavor wise. If you were able to increase the wick coverage by adding more wraps, either by a thicker gauge wire, or slightly reduced diameter of coil, the flavor would increase along with slightly less overall heat, with the heat being more spread out, the chances of the wick drying out would also decrease.
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You know that's funny, in my last video I thought about a way to convey the proper amount of wick thru the coil, I even videotaped a segment in which I said this very same thing. I said it should pull thru the coil without knocking over the mod. In the video it just came to me about this method and I never did or thought about it before so I just winged it in the video. well it didn't work, in the end I felt like the amounts were just not enough so I edited that section out. For me, I feel like the wick is off if I can't vape it at 20 watts. Most of my set ups go on my dna 20 at 20 watts, if it drys out or if I get any dry hits, the wick is not right. 99 percent of the time I pass this test and all is good but sometimes I have to re wick
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Well between organic cotton balls, Koh Gen Do Cotton and silica I have enough wicking material at home to last a few lifetimes so I'm not going to try anything else
Last year I was messing around with the flavor wicks, I had them in for quite some time. In the end I took them out. my reasons were 2 things, one I felt like it restricted airflow slightly, also it seemed to get slightly darker then the regular wicks that were thru the coil, this might have been because my flavor wicks were separate, just on top. because of this wick not lasting as long as the rest of the set up it required changing out more often. at first I did find it to add a slightly better flavor but after a day it did the opposite. what I never tried was the flavor wick that actually ran into the juice wells, this might have kept it wetter therefore might have lasted longer.
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