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Yeap, I posted that at the same time he posted his answer! So I just replace my above with a response to him.

I am still curious about the metal vs. the pyrex section. I love the look of all metal, but so far, I don't like trying to top fill my kayfun. It seems one has to be SO careful with the air hole to make sure there is no flooding, and I'm not very coordinated :D

I always filled mine upside down through the fill hole leaving a small air bubble. Works every time. I mean, that's what the fill hole is for, right? :)
 

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I always filled mine upside down through the fill hole leaving a small air bubble. Works every time. I mean, that's what the fill hole is for, right? :)

I haven't tried yet, but I was under the impression I wouldn't be able to see a air bubble with all metal. This may seem like a silly question since I haven't yet tried it, but how to you know the air bubble is there if there is no 'window'?

Ha! Actually, people are allergic to their saliva, not the fur. So maybe a good boil would be in order for you. :)

Or I could vape liquid benedryl to counter the effects?
 

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I haven't tried yet, but I was under the impression I wouldn't be able to see a air bubble with all metal. This may seem like a silly question since I haven't yet tried it, but how to you know the air bubble is there if there is no 'window'?



Or I could vape liquid benedryl to counter the effects?

You wouldn't with an all metal tank. What you could do is fill it all the way and then suck a little out before you put the screw back in. Syringe is imperative. Look at these. This is what I use. They're cheap.

5 ml Syringes with Blunt Tip Fill Needles, 10 pack: Science Lab Needles: Amazon.com: Industrial & Scientific
 

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For the mini to feed right, on the tobeco, you have to use the metal instead of plastic. The plastic is too thick to let the liquid get to the coil, unless you use some really thin liquid. On the original and the other clone (can't think of the name :oops:) the plastic piece is made wider to allow a good flow. You can use the plastic in the longer version and it works just fine, just not as the 1st piece that screws onto the base.

I miss not being able to see the liquid level, but I'm happy that I can use it now. :)
I was just taking a look at my original mini and was quite surprised to find different threads on the tubes.
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The mini clone from Tobeco is the one with the too narrow clear section. The one by Ivogo correctly copied the bulging clear section of the original and so can be used in the 2 piece clear & metal configuration. The Tobeco version can only be used in the 3 piece configuration and must be metal, clear, metal only.

If anything I find that the mini clones provide a bit more flavor perhaps because of the smaller chamber. It still has the Kayfun's advantage of being rather forgiving of build, no leaking and ability to be used at pretty much any angle. In extended mode makes a nice combo with my epipe.

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On the Cana, I have 2, my wife uses the crap out of the one that I gave to her. No problems with either of mine yet...... the longer they go the longer I think they will go. There must have been thousands sold and assembled by ... well kids with no prior assembly experience so it is hit and miss I guess. Just my opinion though
Vapor Freak sells the kit now but you about need to already have the tank to put it in or it adds up to too much money.
Before the Kayfun clones it was a viable option.

Kids dont put them together in China... Women do. Usually from the farms..
 

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is it really???

Kimberly, Clark and Co. was founded in 1872 by John A. Kimberly, Havilah Babcock, Charles B. Clark, and Franklyn C. Shattuck in Neenah, Wisconsin with US42,000 capitalization.[5] The group's first business was operating paper mills, which the collective expanded throughout the following decades. In 1914 the company developed cellu-cotton, a cotton substitute used by the United States Army as surgical cotton during World War I. Army nurses used cellu-cotton pads as disposable sanitary napkins,[6] and six years later the company introduced Kotex, the first disposable feminine hygiene product.[7]

Kimberly-Clark - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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looks like just a tad too much cotton, but not by much. also like bronze said maybe just reduce the length of the tail so there is not as much bend in the cotton. I do think that build is close though.

Thanks.. The last pic has less cotton than the first ones... Glad I'm finally zeroing in on it though :) Thanks!
 

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I haven't tried yet, but I was under the impression I wouldn't be able to see a air bubble with all metal. This may seem like a silly question since I haven't yet tried it, but how to you know the air bubble is there if there is no 'window'?



Or I could vape liquid benedryl to counter the effects?

I might have some cotton troubles, but, I fill mine right up to the bottom threads when held upside down and dont have any leaks.
 

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Well the cotton wicked Trobeco finally gave up and started giving the burnt cotton taste after the 4 hr mark. The Ephro I rayon built with a cullumation of everything I've learned and a slightly bigger diameter micro coil made it thru the night and still tastes good. It has an adjustable airflow screw (I think) on the bottom, I assume counterclockwise is more airflow. On the Trobeco that feature is an allen hed screw. Man I've wasted a lot of fluid learning how to build these things. I'm not sure I'll be a convert away from the expensive to recoil aerotanks, they're just too convenient in comparison.
 

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I just ordered my third Ehpro Kayfun from the same site and this time I guess I wasn't paying attention. This has 2 airholes and 2 screws. No big deal I like a tighter draw so I just screwed one airhole all the way down.

Only problem is now I have to make sure it doesnt' leak from 2 air holes instead of 2. But so far no leaking and it tastes the same as my first 2.
 
I've just finished my first build and the tank is almost empty, which has led to a few questions:

How often do you change the cotton wick and dry burn it? (every how many tanks at 4.5ml per tank)

How often do you clean it out? I would guess the same time that you change the wick?

Can you change flavors by just rinsing the cotton with purified water?

Can you top it off if it's say, half empty, by turning it upside down and filling from bottom? Or top off from top and keep the air hole covered?

1. Depends. If I'm using the same liquid, I'll usually go a few tanks before I change the wick. But my recent ADV has been a pretty dark juice, so I've been changing that after every 2 tanks.

2. When I change the wick. ;)

3. Probably, but wicks soaked with water will give you several good hits of hot water vapor. Not the worst thing ever, but not particularly pleasant either.

4. I do it all the time, using the bottom fill port. I don't like the top-fill method anyway, and I'd imagine it would be quite the trick to do it with liquid still in the tank!

I've been told that laying horizontal the fluid level should be no more than half. Over that and the vacuum/siphone doesn't work. So I drained off the access, its been working a good half hour more than I've gone so far. Hope that's all it was, fingers crossed:2cool:.

I usually fill mine so the liquid is half to 3/4 full when laying horizontally, and I don't have any problems. You need some air for the vacuum to work right, but not a bunch.

Two more questions on my kayfun came up:

How do you change the wick mid tank without leaking? I think I've just wicked one that isn't down far enough to the channels, so it's not wicking properly. I don't want to waste the juice.

If one wants to use the steel instead of pyrex section so that it's all steel, is the only way to fill from the top? Or am I missing something?

Thanks! You've all been really helpful.

1. I don't think you can. As soon as you unscrew the tank, it releases the vacuum and juice will come out of the nearest exit. You can stick a syringe or an empty needle-tip bottle into the fill port and suck out the juice though. I've done it a couple times. IMHO, if there's one drawback to the Kayfun it's that the juice doesn't stay in when you unscrew the base (like a ProTank.) Not usually an issue, but it's annoying when you have to do it.

2. No, the steel section replaces the middle (clear) section. You still fill from the bottom fill screw port; it's just impossible to see how much juice you're putting in, so you have to guess. Actually, if you use a syringe you can measure out the proper amount of juice to put in and not worry about it, but most people don't like not being able to see how much is left.

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Hate the grammar nazis I'm on the net to chill and relax not get a grade not professional not getting paid if I thought anything on the internet really mattered in real life I would put at lest on period on this diatribe but I won't because somewhere in Cyberland there is a grammar nazi unable to sustain them-self in an argument but would rather focus on the almighty properly placed period comma or misspelled word maybe even a word that autocorrect corrected wrongly
Yeah if it matters or is professional I am capable of having proper grammar if not I would tell you to blame the current school system but that's not the case I just don't care and would rather make a valid point with my words not my period.
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My wife has one of those super fluffy cats. You know, it looks like a bush walking around the house? She looks like she weighs 20 pounds but in reality she's only six pounds. Her fur is softer than cotton and she leaves tufts of her fur all over the house. I swear I could have knitted me twelve more cats with what she leaves on the floor. Anyhow, I often wondered if that would make a good wick. :D

I think I have heard something about alpaca hairs being a good wick
 

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I ended up modifying my build last night. I used a little more CC (Cellucotton) and shortened my wick tails. So far performance has been the best I've gotten, so it took me about a week but finally figured out how much, what formation, etc. Doesn't look like I'll need to change this wick for a while haha. Pics for your pleasure:

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After a day of heavy use:

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I ended up modifying my build last night. I used a little more CC (Cellucotton) and shortened my wick tails. So far performance has been the best I've gotten, so it took me about a week but finally figured out how much, what formation, etc. Doesn't look like I'll need to change this wick for a while haha. Pics for your pleasure:

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What guage wire and drill bit did you use? I have a hard tim getting that much cotton thru the coils without it turning packed solid and stop wicking. I am having good like with Rayon.


Someone correct me if I am wrong but isn't the setscrew on the bottom of the tank used for airflow?

One trick I learned is if you feel your wrick drying up/burning is to cover the airhole and draw, it helps the wicking, but I think it would be better to tighten the draw (set screw counter clock-wise)?
 
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What guage wire and drill bit did you use? I have a hard tim getting that much cotton thru the coils without it turning packed solid and stop wicking. I am having good like with Rayon.


Someone correct me if I am wrong but isn't the setscrew on the bottom of the tank used for airflow?

One trick I learned is if you feel your wrick drying up/burning is to cover the airhole and draw, it helps the wicking, but I think it would be better to tighten the draw (set screw counter clock-wise)?

Depends on the version. My version 1 and black has it on the bottom side. The version 2 moved it to the bottom one the opposite side of the 510 from the fill hole.


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