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. I get a fair amount of resistance when inserting. Once I have a good amount in my coil, I then slide cotton back and forth until the center of the wick gets slightly sheared, thus reducing the amount just where the coil is. If I get overwhelmed, I will keep you in mind, thanks

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Thanks I've got a good build going now 4 hours, hopefully this post won't jinx me again/ I was leaving cotton packed so tight inside the micro-coil that it created a dam. I could tell by a burnt spot in the cotton where the coil was after a dissection.

Next I've got a 3D dripper clone to tackle. I'm saving that for another day spend way to much time with the kayfun clone
 

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Hey vapdivrr, out of curiosity...what setup are you running or rather, whats your favorite setup for the kayfun? Also, do you think it works better with the coil perpendicular to the deck or on an angle like the ones in the recent pic you just replied to? I run a 5/64 dia 28g 1.4 ohm coil run perp to the deck with cellucotton, but I'm thinking of maybe a 1/16 dia micro with 29g angled with with cellucotton. It seems like the angled coil would take longer to wick because the wick is longer and in the sort of S shape.

I have 4 kayfuns, 2 are lites and 2 are pluses. one is on my provari at 1.3Ω with twisted 32g around 10 wraps. all my kayfun coils are between 1.7 to 2.0 mm in diameter. I have 2 other kayfuns that I run on mechs, one is 26g, 8 wraps and the other is twisted 30g, both of those are sub ohm. my last kayfun is on a dna-20 mod with dual twisted 32g, this resistance is also sub ohm about .9ish. so my wattages range from 14 to 20. all of these kayfuns are fairly close in performance tbh, the only real difference is the dual coil kayfun, for that one puts out a little thicker vape then the others. I have tried a ton of different coil designs and there is not a real difference between them so I stick to regular horizontal micro's. I also have tried a few different types of cotton and I prefer cvs sterile balls. every kayfun I own, at those power levels work flawlessly with the cotton, I never get one single dry hit nor any muted flavors. sometimes, maybe one out of every 15 builds in the kayfun, I will get an off build. what happens is after inserting new cotton and cleaning everything up, and filling back the juice I will go to vape it and one of two things will usually happen. one is an instant taste of muted cottony crap, this taste is instant (even with a fully saturated wick) and I never go further, I instantly rip it out and re-do. I don't even take a second vape because I know this taste will not usually go away, no matter what. this taste is usually the result of to much cotton in the coil. for me, when my set up is perfect I never get any break in period of a cotton taste, the first vape is as good as the rest. dry hits? like before, maybe 1 out of 15 builds will have some sort of issue and unlike the "over stuffed coil" an under stuffed coil is just as bad. now the "not enough" cotton coil isn't as quickly noticed because of the major saturation I do to the wick before assembling. once this saturation is vaped, I listen to my coil. I can tell by sound usually if I am soon to get a dry hit. every coil will produce a slight sizzle sound after the fire button is released, usually this sizzle is not that loud or that noticeable and stops maybe a second after the release. when this sound seems louder and continues for a longer time, I know that fairly soon I will encounter some dry hits. 99 percent of the time I re-coil immediately, but there are times when this build was done late at night and I said f---it, I will mess with in morning. sometimes the wick will swell overnight and all is fine but that's rare. although I have done many successful perpendicular coils, I much prefer an angled coil for 2 reasons. the first is it allowes me to make a longish type coil that sits with no tension on the wires. sometimes if you have a longish type coil and set it straight, the length is longer then the screws and when they are attached, this puts a pressure on the coil which kind of kinks it. by setting the coil on an angle, the coil rests better. another reason I like the angled coil is that I feel like there is more wick in contact with the juice because there is more wick on the ledge. this may or may not be true because I really don't know how far the juice comes in, so this is just an opinion. also because of the way the wick sits on the ledge in an angled coil, I feel that the wick is there to stay and will not move no matter what. this may just be an other opinion but I feel if the wick is just dropping straight down, barely touching the ledge, it may move or something? either by incoming juice, or by sucking to hard. again, this is just me over thinking things, as it may never happen but I have heard once, I think it was donnah, that her friend vapes so hard she can suck the wick tails straight up. so tbh, I don't have a favorite set up, I really love them all for they are all actually fairly close. I haven't tried the cellucotton but am currently doing the rayon in a couple of kayfuns. so far I have mixed feelings, I like everything except 2 things so far. one is just the way it feels, it feels squeaky, like its plastic or something. and im not kind of liking the extra sweetness that I seem to be getting. the rayon does wick faster but I never needed extra wicking capabilities in my cotton builds. also some are saying it doesn't gunk up as much? so far its only been 3 days so I cant comment on the longeveity of the fibers and coil condition. here again, my juices aren't really gunky juices so usually I can go about 4 days on most. lets say with the rayon I get 5 or 6, well I enjoy changing and working on my attys, so that also doesn't bother me. for me, its all about the taste, and so far I think I am liking my cotton better. although I do run an angled coil, my wick tails really don't run across the ledge. they kind of run half way like my pic below, but when I saturate them, I push them against the ledge so more of the side of the tails are exposed to the juice
 

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Thanks I've got a good build going now 4 hours, hopefully this post won't jinx me again/ I was leaving cotton packed so tight inside the micro-coil that it created a dam. I could tell by a burnt spot in the cotton where the coil was after a dissection.

Next I've got a 3D dripper clone to tackle. I'm saving that for another day spend way to much time with the Kayfun clone

yah you definitely don't want it that packed for sure. im keeping my fingers crossed for ya
 

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What kind of Kayfun do you have?

EHPro KFL+ v2... Think I figured it. Bad VAMO v5 (didnt have my MVP and just got a couple of new Nemesis's today). The VAMO was firing at 5v to 6v when it was set as low as 3v. Basically was firing wide open and not regulating. Second bad VAMO outta 3... I have it on a MVP 2 now set to 11w (4.2v on 1.6ohm) and its not burning, yet. Flavor is down still though..
 
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Not sure how I found this video, so it may be a repeat from in here. I watched this video after having problems with my Tobeco mini. The way they wick their mini and switching out the plastic bottom piece with the metal has fixed my problems with the mini (and my EHPRO plus V2). :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eareL32_-7s

So instead of the plastic going on first, you used the metal piece?
 

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I was tempted though with the hana clones.... Not gonna happen In this lifetime- that thread is on FIRE with problems.
1.21 gigawatts!!!
I don't think I've ever seen a thread quite like that one. What's it called again? Something like " Attack each other over Hana clone while we wait"
 

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Two more questions on my kayfun came up:

How do you change the wick mid tank without leaking? I think I've just wicked one that isn't down far enough to the channels, so it's not wicking properly. I don't want to waste the juice.

If one wants to use the steel instead of pyrex section so that it's all steel, is the only way to fill from the top? Or am I missing something?

Thanks! You've all been really helpful.
 

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EHPro KFL+ v2... Think I figured it. Bad VAMO v5 (didnt have my MVP and just got a couple of new Nemesis's today). The VAMO was firing at 5v to 6v when it was set as low as 3v. Basically was firing wide open and not regulating. Second bad VAMO outta 3... I have it on a MVP 2 now set to 11w (4.2v on 1.6ohm) and its not burning, yet. Flavor is down still though..

Well, that's progress. Try it at lower watts too and see what kind of flavor you get.
 

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My builds... The first 2 is the one that tasted like cotton.. I rewicked a couple of times and finally recoiled and use the chimney method, shown last. The ohm meter read 2ohm for some reason, but it is 1.6ohm (8/9 wraps, 3mm wire, 2mm dia.). I get very little flavor as compared to an Origen v2 with this setup..

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Here's a picture that I posted in that thread today
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It's dual coiled 28 gauge @ 6Ω with rayon wicks.
Oh, it's a Oddy2Kayfun conversion kit in a Hercules body with a Terminator upper tank section.
This pic I've posed here before but here it is again.
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Love that tank!!!
I wants one...

What is your opinion of the Cana?
I've read so many horror stories. It had me either wanting to build one from scratch or just buy one- I just don't have the disposable income and if I did I would get another p-thingie


1.21 gigawatts!!!
 

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My builds... The first 2 is the one that tasted like cotton.. I rewicked a couple of times and finally recoiled and use the chimney method, shown last. The ohm meter read 2ohm for some reason, but it is 1.6ohm (8/9 wraps, 3mm wire, 2mm dia.). I get very little flavor as compared to an Origen v2 with this setup..

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Yeah, looks like it should work what I can tell from the tiny pictures. I might try shortening those wicks a bit though. Have it so it just barely reaches the deck. What kind of cotton are you using?

How much clearance do you have between coil and air hole below it?
 

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I don't think I've ever seen a thread quite like that one. What's it called again? Something like " Attack each other over Hana clone while we wait"

reminds me of the rayon thread. if you post anything negative over there you will get some attitudes from some of them. next thing I remember, a few were giving me crap because of bad punctuation in a post. its amazing the lengths some will go to get noticed. I have responded to thousands of posts and many of those posts weren't proper and may have been at times a little hard to understand. not once have I ever responded back and said "listen dude, if you want people to read your post do a better job writing it" instead I would re-read and still try to answer the post , but that's just me I guess.
 
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