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ack. if that works for you then excellent, you've finally found something that's nailed down. you can just stick to building that for your NETs or be ......ed like me and spend time tweaking stuff here and there. Who knows, you could find another set up that'll work even better.

but entertain me a little. I do wonder if the tightness of the coil is the only variable you've changed.

a gapped coil is inherently flimsier than a tight microcoil yes? as such, could it be possible that you're actually using slightly less cotton than you would on a tight microcoil?

I'm asking only because I've had a friend who basically experienced the same thing. Excessive gunking on the microcoil, but excellent results on a gapped coil. So i got him to build and wick both a gapped coil and a microcoil in front of me. Except before he did anything else, I pulled out the wick in the microcoil and trashed that, then swapped the wick within the gapped coil into the microcoil. BAM. now he only builds microcoils.

I asked him about it and his rationale was simple: since the gapped coil is so flimsy, he uses quite a bit less cotton so that he doesnt end up yanking his gapped coil while threading the wick through. as it turns out, the "a bit less cotton" turned out to be the right amount of cotton.

that's a teeeenny possibility. If not, well, microcoils and your NETs are just not fated for each other for some weird reason.


No I went up a size in drill bit and am using much more cotton. Before with the micro coil I would flood with this amount of cotton because the micro coil was like a dam and then start burning. I watched it all with a clear kayfun.
 

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Hey Kiwi, you are right! I guess those black O-Rings confused me a little. All of the other info I posted is still valid info for anyone with the same questions.

I'm just glad we help our friend regal55.

Not sure what I'm right about but yay? Hahahahah.
 

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Kiwi is right (again). A nasty NET is gonna be nasty no matter what coil you use. If I'm vaping a nasty NET from, say, GeJ, QnJ, NETCOM, W2V,or similar I will get through maybe 2mls before the coil is trashed. There are some NETs that are more user friendly like Ahlusion and Heather's. I can burn 8 - 12 mls from these vendors and even then the coils are not too bad. As Kiwi points out, the filtration process and quantity of tobacco extract have a lot to do with it. I can burn Heather's NETs all day long and not worry about excessive gunk in my KFLs. When I vape my nasty NETs I use them in a dripper because they have very small capacities and I don't have to wait long before cleaning them(not to mention they are simple to clean unlike the KFL).
 

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Another Micro coiler and 100% NET user here. Gunky NETs will mess any coil up, period. Like Bronze suggested, save those one for drippers. I'll add MyVapeJuice (2nd Gen NETs) to Bronze's suggestion of Heathers Heavenly Vapes for clean burning NETs. Ahlusion does not ship to Canada, so don't have much experience with their juices.
 

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Having never vaped NETs, I'm curious: How do they compare with Boba's Bounty when it comes to gunkage?

The absolute worst gunker that I've tried so far has been Apache from MOV. I hear that there are far worse out there.

Here's what my Apache wicked coil looked like after around a ml or so when I first got my KFL last year. I used to wick with silica and braided silica then.

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In contrast, here's a HHV juice (I think it was Huntsman at the time) after around a weeks usage.

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Now, the two NETs are completely different in colour/flavour but it gives you an idea of why I don't use the Heavy Hitters in my KFL anymore.
 

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The absolute worst gunker that I've tried so far has been Apache from MOV. I hear that there are far worse out there.

Here's what my Apache wicked coil looked like after around a ml or so when I first got my KFL last year. I used to wick with silica and braided silica then.

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In contrast, here's a HHV juice (I think it was Huntsman at the time) after around a weeks usage.

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Now, the two NETs are completely different in colour/flavour but it gives you an idea of why I don't use the Heavy Hitters in my KFL anymore.

I agree Apache is a dripper only, I don't care for the after taste on that one I don't dig straight virginias, Hey Jack is more to my liking.
 

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Another Micro coiler and 100% NET user here. Gunky NETs will mess any coil up, period. Like Bronze suggested, save those one for drippers. I'll add MyVapeJuice (2nd Gen NETs) to Bronze's suggestion of Heathers Heavenly Vapes for clean burning NETs. Ahlusion does not ship to Canada, so don't have much experience with their juices.

I admit to not using commercial nets in the KLF. They work fine in my aerotank so I know my filtering and pg/vg ratio is good. Its just that when you constantly have to change wicks you loose a tremendous amount of juice and its very uneconomical to use commercial nets in a KLF unless you have that magic touch as many here who post do. I think there may be a majority who are holding back and not posting.
 

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I admit to not using commercial nets in the KLF. They work fine in my aerotank so I know my filtering and pg/vg ratio is good. Its just that when you constantly have to change wicks you loose a tremendous amount of juice and its very uneconomical to use commercial nets in a KLF unless you have that magic touch as many here who post do. I think there may be a majority who are holding back and not posting.
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Another Micro coiler and 100% NET user here. Gunky NETs will mess any coil up, period. Like Bronze suggested, save those one for drippers. I'll add MyVapeJuice (2nd Gen NETs) to Bronze's suggestion of Heathers Heavenly Vapes for clean burning NETs. Ahlusion does not ship to Canada, so don't have much experience with their juices.

I have discovered a monkey dripper for those. With the new Tobeco 30W its a great alternative. You can buy premade 33g kanthal coils that just pop right in. I love the monkey design it has 4 posts with holes for anchoring the coils. With the premade coils it comes out to right about 1 ohm. Its a great way to go, very fast and easy to build. And the results are to die for, spoils you.
 

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Some about the same, many worse.



What makes the bobas unique is 99+% VG not so much the gunk. I can vape it in my aerotank, yet nada on nets in a micro coil KLF. Unfortunately I've come to the conclusion that the gapped coil doesn't have as good of flavor has the 15 minutes of a micro coil before it burns cotton. Its just slightly better than an aerotank.
 

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What makes the bobas unique is 99+% VG not so much the gunk. I can vape it in my aerotank, yet nada on nets in a micro coil KLF. Unfortunately I've come to the conclusion that the gapped coil doesn't have as good of flavor has the 15 minutes of a micro coil before it burns cotton. Its just slightly better than an aerotank.

I've vaped 100% VG's and they didn't trash the coils any better/worse than high PG vapes. I'm not a Boba's fan and only vaped less than 5mls. What struck me about Boba's more than gunking the coils (which wasn't too bad) is how thick it was...even for a 100% VG. It's remains the thickest juice I've ever come across. I swear they use molasses in their recipe.
 

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I've vaped 100% VG's and they didn't trash the coils any better/worse than high PG vapes. I'm not a Boba's fan and only vaped less than 5mls. What struck me about Boba's more than gunking the coils (which wasn't too bad) is how thick it was...even for a 100% VG. It's remains the thickest juice I've ever come across. I swear they use molasses in their recipe.


VG is thick in itself. Most vendors sell 100% VG but will thin it down with some distilled water so that it has some wicking capabilities. Boba's, or rather AVE does not care for that..
 

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Having never vaped NETs, I'm curious: How do they compare with Boba's Bounty when it comes to gunkage?

Boba's is one gunky gunky juice. And it gets even worse after prolonged steeping. The thing just darkens and thickens up.

With fresh Boba's, I can go 2 full kfl tanks before changing. These days with a 8 months old BB, a tank gets naaaaasty
 

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I've vaped 100% VG's and they didn't trash the coils any better/worse than high PG vapes. I'm not a Boba's fan and only vaped less than 5mls. What struck me about Boba's more than gunking the coils (which wasn't too bad) is how thick it was...even for a 100% VG. It's remains the thickest juice I've ever come across. I swear they use molasses in their recipe.
Like you, I haven't vaped that much bobas. 2 years ago I bought a 30 ml bottle in which I still have about 10 mls left and is very thick indeed. I was sent an atty a few months back to see if I could get it working, along with the atty, it came with some juice which was a net, not sure which net it was but it was alot thicker then bobas. This juice was literally like honey
 
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