KGO Advice needed

[blong]

I'm using a kgo from hoosier and i'm looking for a clearomizer/tank that performs well. I recently purchased some of the 2.4-2.6ohm ce3/phoenix from altsmoke (since gotvapes was sold out). And every hit tastes burnt. I fill them up correctly, it just doesn't seem like they wick. Constant dry hits that taste awful. The boges i've used are great, but eventually start tasting funky and they make my tongue raw after a while.

I don't want anything that's going to stick out any further than the width of the kgo itself.

 

[Bullette the Cowdog]

I'm using a kgo from hoosier and i'm looking for a clearomizer/tank that performs well. I recently purchased some of the 2.4-2.6ohm ce3/phoenix from altsmoke (since gotvapes was sold out). And every hit tastes burnt. I fill them up correctly, it just doesn't seem like they wick. Constant dry hits that taste awful. The boges i've used are great, but eventually start tasting funky and they make my tongue raw after a while.

I don't want anything that's going to stick out any further than the width of the kgo itself.

Hi Blong.
Bullette the Kgo fan here.
Sorry you're having difficulty with your clearomizers.
I read so much on ECF about folks having leaks, burning, etc that I have chosen not to go that route (clearomizer route). At least for now.
I just stick with my Boges. A Boge lasts me 3-7 days. Then I toss it out & get a new one.
Specifically with my Kgo I am using standard size Boge LR 2.0 cartomizers
Or my new favorite...
Smokteck 1.7 cartomizers also standard or shorty size not XL.
I use a drip tip. Do you use a drip tip with your cartos? It keeps the vape a little cooler I have found.
And I don't use a tank.
If this is your same setup & you are not happy, then we will have to look to your juice to determine why you are getting that raw tongue.

Keep us informed.

 

[blong]

Thanks for the response Bullette. I use the Boge LR's as well, and yes I use drip tips on all of them. I don't think the juice is the problem (NLV Bounty and Vermillion River Kentucky blends). I just switched to this KGO from the kr808 stick batteries and I never had the raw tongue problem.

 

[Mroutlaw]

A couple of things.
First, I am a huge ce3 fan. The ones from altsmoke are the same thing as the Phoenix (same manufacturer) except they have primer in them. Did you burn off or clean the primer out?

Next, what kind of juice are you using? Are you using high VG juice that is very thick. That will cause problems with any system, whether it be a bc ce3, top coil wick system like the vivi nova or a carto.

A great device I have found is the T2 at altsmoke. They hold 2.4ml of juice, have replaceable heads and are only $5 with heads being $1.79


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[yzer]

I recommend two Smoktech LR XL cartos for your KGO: either 1.7 or 2.0 ohms depending on taste. These are nice tasting cartos that hold 1.8 ml of juice on dry fill. I've used them since November of last year without quality issues. I get them in stainless steel from Hoosier.

 

[blong]

The first 2 I didn't burn/clean but the last one I dry burned and it still tastes horrible. Filling them upside down, no air bubbles etc. Completely disappointed so far.

All my juices are either 65/35 or 70/30 PG:VG.

 

[anavidfan]

I also noticed recently the tip of my tongue is also a bit raw. I thought it was because I was getting some boge cartos that were spitting at me when I inhaled. Some boge have been a bit finicky lately. Just a thought. I just placed an order with vapor beast, I got the 50 box deal they have going. You get 50 boxes for 60.00, makes each box 1.20. I hated to spend such a big chunck of money but with that price, it would be silly to spend 8.00 a box for the good boges.Vapor Beast said they have the boges that come with the one long and one short condoms which have been the most reliable boges. I was driving to a local vendor just because I hated to waste money on them and didnt even mind paying 8 a box, at least I knew those worked.

 

[yzer]

I purchased new Smoktech LR XLs in stainless in November and December of last year and again in April or May of this year. Other than pulling posts on two cartos, no problems at all. I've seen slight changes on the Smoktech packaging but no changes in the product.

None of that bacon taste that one well-known reviewer is reporting from Boges.

I vape unflavored juice. If anyone could taste a carto it would be me. These Smoktech XL cartos will burn if more than 1 ml is vaped off them before refilling. Once burned, they are ruined.

 

[peacemaker1337]

I use SmokeTech XL 1.5 Dual Coils and they work like a charm! Have you thought about looking into a Vision eGo stardust setup?

 

[blong]

@anavidfan - 50 boxes with 5 per box? Damn that's quite a supply. Too good to be true eh?

@yzer - Unflavored juice? Some of the stardusts i've tried give me that effect with potent juices. I don't see how you could vape that hah. I might have to get me a box of those Smoktechs. Really want a clearo/small tank system though.

I still think it's the Boges. I top them off constantly, roll up edges of tissues and put it through the holes and dab any excess liquid. They crackle and pop pretty hard when drawing. I really just want to get away from the cartos with filler in them. The fluxomizers from GV for my 808 were awesome, but I had to remove the seal that protected the juice from leaking out... so I had to leave them upright at all times.

 

[yzer]

@anavidfan - 50 boxes with 5 per box? Damn that's quite a supply. Too good to be true eh?

@yzer - Unflavored juice? Some of the stardusts i've tried give me that effect with potent juices. I don't see how you could vape that hah. I might have to get me a box of those Smoktechs. Really want a clearo/small tank system though.

I still think it's the Boges. I top them off constantly, roll up edges of tissues and put it through the holes and dab any excess liquid. They crackle and pop pretty hard when drawing. I really just want to get away from the cartos with filler in them. The fluxomizers from GV for my 808 were awesome, but I had to remove the seal that protected the juice from leaking out... so I had to leave them upright at all times.

You know, unflavored juice isn't that bad at all. You will find several very experienced vapers in the DIY forum that use it. I started the unflavored this weekend after developing an allergy to PG (or perhaps a flavor additive).

Mine is 100% VG with a little distilled water to thin it. Not much taste when exhaled through the mouth. Exhaling through the nose brings out a noticeable flavor. I taste something like unflavored cotton candy or slightly toasted marshmallow. Tons of TH at 20 mg and lots of vapor.

I'm liking the unflavored so much it might be a while before I start to experiment with flavor additives. A lot of flavoring is required for 100% VG so I may not ever go there.

 

[John D in CT]

Blong -

I take a lot of heat for recommending variable voltage, and frankly, I'm not sure why.

The kGo is a constant voltage device. You cannot adjust the watts being generated in the coil or coils, you can only change to an attachment of a different resistance.

This is from the Hoosier website:

"This is it! the best eGo/Riva type batteries that we have found. Made by SLB. 1100 mAh for all day and night vaping. These batteries run at a higher voltage than most, instead of the 3.3v to 3.7v provided by most eGo/Riva batteries these provide 3.8v under load with 1.5ohm dual coils and over 4.0v under load on 2.0ohm single coil cartomizers".

Assuming "over 4.0v underload" means 4.2 volts, and taking the middle of the range of 2.4-2.6 ohms of your Phoenix (the same ones I use):

4.2 x 4.2 / 2.5 = 7.35 watts at the coil.

Maybe that's a little high. I'm getting a fine vape at 3.7 volts on my Joyetech eGo-C Twist. I have a lot of gear, but that's what I use 95% of the time. Far more than my VMax.

3.7 x 3.7 / 2.5 = 5.48 watts; a little cooler than your current vape.

Variable voltage lets you be Goldilocks, who liked to optimize her chair size, bed hardness, and porridge temperature.

PLEASE watch this video, and consider spending $22 on a Joyetech eGo-C Twist to see what variable voltage can do for your vape.

THE EGO TWIST IS A GAME CHANGER - YouTube Grimm Green Twist Game changer

Joyetech eGo-C Twist: Joye eGo-C Twist Variable Voltage 650mAh Battery

And please don't use dual coils without a specific reason for doing so. They consume twice the power of single coils at a given coil temperature.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lLAVH_Lae0 Phil Busardo Twist review

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...sion/302432-why-ego-c-twist-game-changer.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=im9XuJJXylw Chubby Checker - The Twist (Crank it up!)

 

[Joe_13]

I did the same thing and got the 2.4-2.8 ohm clearos, and had the same problem.
Weak vapor, scratchy hits.
The KGo just doesn't put out enough power .
Try finding a low res clearo, they are out there!

 

[John D in CT]

I did the same thing and got the 2.4-2.8 ohm clearos, and had the same problem.
Weak vapor, scratchy hits.
The KGo just doesn't put out enough power .
Try finding a low res clearo, they are out there!

The OP says his vape tastes burnt, so it sounds as if maybe he's getting too many watts. It sounds as if you might be getting too few watts. You might both be candidates for variable voltage, which the Joytech eGo-C Twist will let you try for about $22.

THE EGO TWIST IS A GAME CHANGER - YouTube Grimm Green Twist Game changer

 

[blong]

I still don't understand the calculations of all the ohms watts etc but I almost pulled the trigger and got the twist instead of the kgo. The only reason I got this kgo is the size, i've read that the twist looks like a bazooka lol. This 1100mAH kgo is the biggest i'd want to carry around.

 

[Yves]

I use a KGO with these EGO Vision clearomizers LR 2.1-2.4ohm no burnt taste, no dry hits.

 

[Allllllright_already!]

I, too, have the kgo 1100...just started my vaping journey this week. It came with ? cartos in the mfg packaging and I had the option to order either Smoke Tech or Boges as an add on- went with Smoke Tech XL 1.7. My first fill attempt and vape in the mfg carto was dead on. My next attempt to fill and vape was miserable and I thought it was strictly due to my inexperience...after using that carto as a 'guinea pig' to attempt cleaning and then refilling(and a couple of other successful attempts in other cartos and a misfire or three)....I've finally concluded it was just a dud and am since totally happy with the Smoke Techs. I'm now (im)patiently waiting for a Stardust...just because I think they're groovy...but ths novice agrees with the Smoke Tech faction.

 

[John D in CT]

I still don't understand the calculations of all the ohms watts etc but I almost pulled the trigger and got the twist instead of the kgo. The only reason I got this kgo is the size, i've read that the twist looks like a bazooka lol. This 1100mAH kgo is the biggest i'd want to carry around.

The 1000mah Twist can indeed put an eye out if not carefully handled, and is too long for my liking, although I have four of them.

The watts thing is incredibly simple.

Watts = volts times volts divided by the resistance of the coil (or coils, if you have a compelling reason to use more than one).

With a 2.0 ohm single coil at say 3.7 volts, you get 3.7 x 3.7 / 2 = 6.845 watts.

If you were using a 2.0 ohm dual coil, you'd have to divide the 6.845 watts between the two coils.

Lastly, amps are equal to the watts divided by the volts used to create them.

6.845 watts / 3.7 volts = 1.85 amps. Lower amp draw, better battery life.

Please try the 650mah Twist, it is almost exactly the same diameter and length as the kGo. Yes, the battery life will be that much shorter, but you will be vaping with variable voltage, which IMO is vastly superior to constant voltage. And for $22 each, you can always get more than one Twist.

 

[lotsoffish]

I'm using a kgo from hoosier and i'm looking for a clearomizer/tank that performs well.

Hello Blong,

I have been using Kgo batteries since Mid May and I also bought my set up from Hoosiers.

Try some of these- EGO Vision clearomizers LR 2.1-2.4ohm

I REALLY get good solid hits off these and I like the fact I can see how much juice I have left in them.

I pretty much use Boge LR Cartomizers, Smokteck 1.7 XL resurrectors and those Vison clearomizers. The ONE THING you WILL NEED is one of the 510 to 510 adapters you can also pick up here- adapters for different thread types.

If you don't use an adapter you won't be happy with the draw with those clearomizers. I actually drilled some 1/16th inch airholes in mine before I found out about the adapter trick.

These "Vision eGo Transparent Clearomizer's" from Hoosiers do NOT leak and I get ZERO dry hits from them. I REALLY dig them when I am tired of topping off my boges all the time.

Bullette, you outta give them a try too. I know you are a big boge fan and I am too but these things will give you a break from topping off all the time once in a while.

 

[lotsoffish]

I use a KGO with these EGO Vision clearomizers LR 2.1-2.4ohm no burnt taste, no dry hits.

I use those too and really dig them.

How do you improve the draw on yours?

Check out my previous post if you want to see how I do it.