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Great , so if you toss a drip tip on it it should fit in an XL carto tank. Thanks a bunch , I've got two Boge tanks laying around so I won't bother buying anything else.

If you put the Killer in a XL carto tank then you'll need a straight drip tip otherwise the drip tip won't set all the way. That's the case with a Phiniac Tallboy so your XL tank might not be as tall.
 

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Hmm maybe I have my terminology mixed up. I thought XL cartos were 45mm. Ill have to measure my tanks end cap to end cap when I get home. Worst case I use it in dripper mode on a mod till my tank gets here.

I have several boxes of XL cartos and they are different lengths. Hopefully yours will work just fine.
 

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I don't think that the glue of the tape is suitable for vaping...

The way around is not to tighten the killer in the 510 adapter and push it in with a small gap, I even leave the juice holes partially open to force a bit of juice in the atty chamber. That way there is no way that the top portion will be tighter than the 510 adapter connection.

Hope this makes sense and helps!

Thanks Denerve, I was actually putting the Killer in the Prive with the adapter section not tightened up for exactly that reason. For some reason that I don't understand, it was still gripping the 510 enough to slightly unscrew the main section as well. Maybe a little lube on the threads would solve that. Thanks mate.



My Killer arrived in Canada yesterday so hopefully I have it by the end of the week. My tank that I ordered from GreekVapes seems to be lagging behind though :( I can't seem to find measurements for the Killer anywhere and it's tough in videos sometimes to get a good idea of tank size. Will it fit in my boge f16 carto tank without a drip tip extension or is it shorter than that. I might order a cheap tank that could be here in a day or two if I know how tall the killer is and the tallest tank it will accommodate.

Going by eye, the Killer with the juice hole exposed is about 3-4mm longer than a standard Boge carto.
 

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OK, next question :laugh: I've now got the Killer in the Prive and all seems good - filled it on the first fill from the bottom and snapped on the bottom cap with the juice control shut, then opened it (eventually). Hopefully this created the necessary pressure for proper functioning. So, if I refill by simply taking the fill screw out and using the syringe, will this cause a problem by releasing the pressure in the tank? I'd really rather do it that way rather than go through the faff of the original fill, but..... :)
 

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I've been reading this thread while waiting on my killer to arrive but haven't posted yet. I've got a question tho, I've already got my prive tank and external killer drip tip and realized that the tip won't work cause of the fill hole screw so can I leave the screw out and use the external tip or will that cause problems? I'm thinking I might be better off getting either a dbase or telescopic tank to use with the external tip or keeping the prive and getting a STR10 tip for it. What do you guys think would b my best option? Thanks
 

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OK, next question :laugh: I've now got the Killer in the Prive and all seems good - filled it on the first fill from the bottom and snapped on the bottom cap with the juice control shut, then opened it (eventually). Hopefully this created the necessary pressure for proper functioning. So, if I refill by simply taking the fill screw out and using the syringe, will this cause a problem by releasing the pressure in the tank? I'd really rather do it that way rather than go through the faff of the original fill, but..... :)

I've had flooding issues filling via top fill hole. I don't understand why though.
 

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I've been reading this thread while waiting on my killer to arrive but haven't posted yet. I've got a question tho, I've already got my prive tank and external killer drip tip and realized that the tip won't work cause of the fill hole screw so can I leave the screw out and use the external tip or will that cause problems? I'm thinking I might be better off getting either a dbase or telescopic tank to use with the external tip or keeping the prive and getting a STR10 tip for it. What do you guys think would b my best option? Thanks

I use a straight drip tip in a case like this. I don't think leaving the fill hole open is a good idea. It will probably cause flooding.
 

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Any recommendations for a straight metal drip tip for using the Killer in an XL tank?

Siam Mods do a nice one in regular or XL. Not sure who the US supplier is, but you could get from the UK at Safer Cigs (Sorry, it won't let me post the URL for some reason).
 
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If there's room around the needle for air to escape, no problem. If the syringe takes up all the room, major flood on the horizon.

OK, cheers for that - I'll try it. But here's where my understanding of these things falls down - the way I see is this.

If you fill from the bottom and snap the bottom cap on, a certain pressure is built up which will then be released to a certain extent whne you open the juice hole and liquid is forced (by the pressure) into the chamber. After that, a sort of pressure equilibrium is working to keep the juice flowing. But as the liquid in the tank drops, the pressure must lessen until a point where it's "normal". After that, with more dropping of the liquid, there would be a "negative" pressure develop (or vacuum, if the tank was full to the brim to begin with). This (to my mind, anyway) would create the opposite effect to the initial situation, in that liquid would be getting forced back out of the chamber and back into the tank... And if you fill using the fill hole, I'd have thought that the pressure would just vanish. Or does the action of drawing then re-create it? Oh God, my head hurts. :)

I'm probably talking bollocks, as we say on this side of the pond. :laugh: But I'd like to understand the physics of it better.
 

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I was one of em having vacuum problems (vapor-lock) & as odd as it seems, I've found that if I close the feed assy, cap the tank, then open the feed assy (by twisting) after everything is back together, then I see air bubbles & have no probs w/vapor-lock. I don't understand why, but so far it has worked every time. Quirky.
 
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Despite using a syringe the does leave plenty of room for air-flow, the one and only issue I have had with my Killer in a Kir Fanis Prive "Special", was that it would flood and leak a fair bit upon filling through the fill hole. This is a phenomena I cannot explain, except perhaps that the increased weight of the liquid acting on the feed holes is causing issues. Anywho, this is remedied by closing the feed assembly before filling and opening it again once the fill screw has been replaced.
 

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this is remedied by closing the feed assembly before filling and opening it again once the fill screw has been replaced

I was getting a bit of flooding just before the vapor-lock too. Sounds like a related problem w/a nearly identical remedy. Opening the feed after the tank is closed seems like the way to avoid some of these quirks. I was wondering if others had noticed this. Interesting.
 

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Yeah, it seems that using the fill hole can upset the balance. Chadsmo's suggestion sounds like it might work though.

I was one of em having vacuum problems (vapor-lock) & as odd as it seems, I've found that if I close the feed assy, cap the tank, then open the feed assy (by twisting) after everything is back together, then I see air bubbles & have no probs w/vapor-lock. I don't understand why, but so far it has worked every time. Quirky.

Obviously when you cap the tank it creates the pressure inside, and then when you open the juice control the pressure pushes liquid into the chamber and it then balances out. That's the fool-proof method, but it's a PITA with a tank with very tight caps like a Prive.
 
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