Just had a quick skip through, will watch the whole thing tomorrow but I'm sold! Thanks for the suggestion, looks like a fun build!
Level with me- Kayfun Lite + worth the dough?
- Thread starter magman007
- Start date
- th_trl_thread_readers 0
- Status
Just had a quick skip through, will watch the whole thing tomorrow but I'm sold! Thanks for the suggestion, looks like a fun build!
To cite... Here is how it is done-
KFL+ V2 material: 304 stainless steel, Polycarbonate
Kayfun Lite plus
Russian91% - All high quality solid stainless steel 316
The Russian 91%
Whats the difference between 304 and 316 stainless steel?
The simple answer is 304 contains 18% chromium and 8% nickel while 316 contains 16% chromium, 10% nickel and 2% molybdenum. The molybdenum is added to help resist corrosion to chlorides (like sea water and de-icing salts).
http://www.nemaenclosures.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/stainless-steel-corrosion.pdf
So if I had to decide based on the manufactures claims it would seem to go in direct contradiction with what internet guy is saying with any cite.
So which is the highest quality metal between the two?
Link please
Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk 2 ECF Rocks! Join CASAA and be a part of keeping vaping legal.
ProVari Pro-Ring | Loki Lab
http://lokilab.com/collections/endsummer30/products/pro-ring
Roaring thunderously via Tapatalk...
I'd like to but cotton irritates me. It be interesting to see if that could be done with silica.....Doubt it.
First of all, this is not the product (KFL+ gen 2) he was talking about...so this citation is not entirely applicable. Second, I didn't ask Xfoo for a citation, which he very well could have provided. I stated very clearly in my post that it was merely another's word on this from the start. I don't have a KFL+ gen 2. I have an original KFL, and a KFL+ original.
Are they the same? I dunno, but the finish does look different on the new ones.
Roaring thunderously via Tapatalk...
My post will sound about the same as most people's here. I bought a real KFL+ as my first because I wanted to experience the real deal. It truly is an awesome device!
I've since bought three clones of the KFL+' a TOBECO and 2 EHPROs. The TOBECO was garbage but the EHPROs have both been as good as the original. For me, I'm glad I bought a real one first because I wanted to know how good it could be up front.
I've since bought three clones of the KFL+' a TOBECO and 2 EHPROs. The TOBECO was garbage but the EHPROs have both been as good as the original. For me, I'm glad I bought a real one first because I wanted to know how good it could be up front.
Last edited:
To cite... Here is how it is done-
KFL+ V2 material: 304 stainless steel, Polycarbonate
Kayfun Lite plus
Russian91% - All high quality solid stainless steel 316
The Russian 91%
What’s the difference between 304 and 316 stainless steel?
The simple answer is 304 contains 18% chromium and 8% nickel while 316 contains 16% chromium, 10% nickel and 2% molybdenum. The molybdenum is added to help resist corrosion to chlorides (like sea water and de-icing salts).
http://www.nemaenclosures.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/stainless-steel-corrosion.pdf
So if I had to decide based on the manufactures claims it would seem to go in direct contradiction with what internet guy is saying with any cite.
Kayfun Lite- material: 304 stainless steel, Polycarbonate
Kayfun Lite - Kayfun Lite
Kayfun V3.1- materials: stainless steel, Polycarbonate
Kayfun V3.1 ES brushed - Kayfun 3.1
The V3.1 does not specify what grade stainless, but between the KFL, KFL+V2, & the R91 according to the manufactures specs the R91 is the one made of the highest grade of stainless. Unless you, him or anyone else has proof otherwise then this is no longer even a question.
Thanks Edd
I emailed the link to myself since I seem to have to keep clearing cookies. Ugh. So irritating!
I emailed the link to myself since I seem to have to keep clearing cookies. Ugh. So irritating!
I actually prefer the 3.1 ES form factor. I like the side mounted airflow adjustment since I don't have to remove the head to adjust airflow. I also like the 510 connector adjustment. Don't like the fill hole, as it is dodge and requires a very specific syringe tip. I top fill so it's not an issue for me.
I wish the 3.1 ES were still being made. I might have to give the KFL+ a run though. When I can find them in stock in the US. Cloud 9 in the UK has them, but I'm not sure what the total US cost would be with shipping.
I wish the 3.1 ES were still being made. I might have to give the KFL+ a run though. When I can find them in stock in the US. Cloud 9 in the UK has them, but I'm not sure what the total US cost would be with shipping.
Kayfun Lite- material: 304 stainless steel, Polycarbonate
Kayfun Lite - Kayfun Lite
Kayfun V3.1- materials: stainless steel, Polycarbonate
Kayfun V3.1 ES brushed - Kayfun 3.1
The V3.1 does not specify what grade stainless, but between the KFL, KFL+V2, & the R91 according to the manufactures specs the R91 is the one made of the highest grade of stainless. Unless you, him or anyone else has proof otherwise then this is no longer even a question.
Hmmm. Really?
A2 / 304 Stainless Steel Is One Of The Most Highly Corrosion-Resistant Materials Available To The Designer And Engineer.
.
A4 Grades Of Stainless Steel Are Usually Reserved For Use In Highly Caustic Environments Where Improved Resistance To Pitting Corrosion Is Required, i.e Marine & Exhausts.
Pitting Corrosion Occures Once The Chromium Becomes Exhausted Through Self-Passivation After Caustic Attack - The Effects Are Usually Local To The Exposed Areas. The Pitting Forms As The Iron Atoms Become Exposed To Oxygen And Oxidise To Form 'Rust'.
Source:
Stainless Steel BASIC Information
http://www.volksbolts.com/faq/basics.htm
Roaring thunderously via Tapatalk...
So 304 stainless which the Kayfun IS made of is more highly corrosion resistant than 316 stainless that the R91 is made of?... lol might what to look into that a little more.
Maybe you should read the link I provided that is backed by case studies instead of a voltswagon site... LMBO
Here it is if you would like to read it- http://www.nemaenclosures.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/stainless-steel-corrosion.pdf
& please feel free to point the guy who's word you are going off of toward this thread. Maybe he could weigh in with so facts we are unaware of.
Here it is if you would like to read it- http://www.nemaenclosures.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/stainless-steel-corrosion.pdf
& please feel free to point the guy who's word you are going off of toward this thread. Maybe he could weigh in with so facts we are unaware of.
Understand is one word. Do you understand that?
I don't care enough to debate this with you. Go find Xfoo and pick your fight with him since this seems to be a virtual crusade for you.
From the start, I represented this assertion as his, not mine. I am no metallurgy expert. I concede my layman status. Even if you are right, however, you have been absurdly rude in your posts about this for no apparent reason at all.
Roaring thunderously via Tapatalk...
Sorry if you feel I am being rude, but posting unfounded info as fact really bothers me as well. There is no need to debate... That is what the citation is for. If the truth upsets you that much maybe you should be more cautious when playing the "pass the secret game" with thing you heard on the internet.
I have no problem with truth.
Here is what I do have a problem with:
You are personalizing a fight with me over something I attributed to another's post, and provided the link to it. You are also misrepresenting what I said.
I never pretended it was a fact. I was absolutely clear on that from my initial post. Just because I cannot provide citations certainly does not make it "unfounded", either.
You wanna argue, go find Xfoo.
Roaring thunderously via Tapatalk...
To the OP,
Level with me- Kayfun Lite + worth the dough?
No, it's not. Unfortunately, it has to be part of the vaping journey since so many people relate to it and enjoy the vape from it.
Get one. Get a real one if you can find one and your budget allows.
It's a good stepping stone from PT's.
Level with me- Kayfun Lite + worth the dough?
No, it's not. Unfortunately, it has to be part of the vaping journey since so many people relate to it and enjoy the vape from it.
Get one. Get a real one if you can find one and your budget allows.
It's a good stepping stone from PT's.
darkgear, I'm interested in hearing what you believe to be the next step up from the KFL+.
Thanks!
Thanks!
I sincerely apologize if you have taken it personally. My problem is not with you, but the info you shared. Yourself as well as a mod placed Xfoo on a pedestal of higher authority in the vaping world and as such treated what he said as it should not be questioned... Or at least that is the way I took it.I read the link you provided and Xfoo was flat wrong with the unfounded info he posted. You shared this info & the disinformation was continued from that thread to this one. I pointed this out & provided citation from both manufactures as such. One final point and I will leave it alone. If anyone, not just you personally, cannot provide citations or proof, it certainly does make it "unfounded".un·found·edˌənˈfoundid/adjective1.having no foundation or basis in fact."her persistent fear that she had cancer was unfounded"synonyms: groundless, baseless, unsubstantiated, unproven, unsupported, uncorroborated, unconfirmed, unverified, unattested, unjustified, without basis, without foundation; Moreantonyms: proven
Gawd I should take that thing off my avatar area. I'm a mini mod. Only in that one tiny section of the forum.
If you ever got to know X like we have, he does have a boatload of knowledge. Yes, I also call him a friend.
If he has made a mistake, I'm sure he would acknowledge that he did.
I just vouched for the fact that he is a very intelligent guy.
Sorry if I came off wrong.
Peace
- Status
Similar threads
