Link to webcast of Dec. 17 FDA Public Hearing on NRT & Innovative Products

[elfstone]

Current talk conclusions:

- smoking risks are really really high, really beyond compare to any NRTs
- there are a lot of promising nicotine containing products out there
- research should be fasttracked to assess their relative safety and efficacy
- there are some concerns with e-cigarettes quality control
- IF these products are effective, then the benefit would be tremendous

** But if people actually stop smoking and start using other nicotine containing producs, that might be promoting 'the addiction' which is bad, even if incidentally their lives are saved

 

[dirtyrigger]

Reduce-to-quit DOESN'T WORK. Just stop muddling waters with useless stuff.

I don't know about that, i was smoking at a reduced quantity for the first month i has my ecig before i finally decided i didn't want to smoke anymore. I actually purchased the thing only to reduce my smoking without the intention of completely quitting.

 

[elfstone]

Interesting issues:

1) While they accept that combustibles are the main harm generator, they keep muddling the waters with "complete cessation". Guys, there is NO evidence that nicotine alone is harmful, and there is no comparison between the potential risks of nicotine to combustibles. Stop considering continued use of nicotine as a failure.

2) Speculation - whether vapers still smoke at home and just feel more comfortable at work because they vape there... Truth be told, we don't know.

 

[elfstone]

I don't know about that, i was smoking at a reduced quantity for the first month i has my ecig before i finally decided i didn't want to smoke anymore. I actually purchased the thing only to reduce my smoking without the intention of completely quitting.

Yeah - but that's still NRT / NCP use, not reduce-to-quit.

 

[elfstone]

Bill Godshall is taking the stand. This will be interesting.

 

[ch47chief]

WOAH BILL! I like this guy already!

 

[rockymtnrobin]

Yes THANK YOU..

 

[elfstone]

Finally, someone says the main point that needs to be kept in mind beyond all the bull.... and double-talk: 99% of the morbidity is caused by smoke inhalation, NOT by alternative smokeless tobacco or non-tobacco nicotine use

 

[DoctorJ]

OK, I just joined the CASAA and volunteered to be a regional rep. I should be in a good position to get a lot of info being in the heart of tobacco country. Wish I could be watching this hearing, but at work and so busy putting grades into the system. (Quite a few students are NOT going to have a nice Xmas, LOL, I almost feel like the Grinch putting these grades in, but they earned them, however, I digresss sorry)

And please don't get me started on BP . They are the ones that should be under the microscope for their outrageous prices. I went to pick up a medication for my stepdaughter that she must take (she has aspberger's syndrome, a milder form of autism). The freaking co-pay was $120. I asked the pharmacist to recheck and see if our insurance didn't cover it or something. She returned and said the insurance paid some of it and then she wrote down the price had I not had insurance, $756!!!!!! $25.26 per pill!!!!! OMG!!! Sorry once again, This just made me so angry, had to vent a little. Thanks for your indulgence

 

[love_leigh]

Now we're talking.

 

[elfstone]

Go, Bill! Wow...

 

[skye78]

Go Pennsylvania!

 

[JParadise]

Bill Godshall for president!

 

[love_leigh]

Get it, Bill! He is on a roll, bless his heart he's talking so fast to fit in all he has to say in the short time allotted. Can't wait to hear what they have to say in response to his speech.

 

[elfstone]

Yay!

Keep all smoke free alternative legal and affordable.

What's so hard?!

 

[VapApe]

Rub their nose in it Bill go man go!

 

[LordDavon]

Go, Bill! Wow...

He has a "matter of fact" way of calling out the FDA. Great job!

 

[elfstone]

Careful, Bill... The two markets argument might backfire - they'll say all nicotine should be pharmaceutical, period.

 

[SlimXero]

Bill Godshall is a G. I love a guy who tells it how it is.

 

[elfstone]

THINK about the overall incidence of oral cancer - it's extremely low. So even if ALL oral cancer was caused exclusively by chewing tobacco, it still would be a ridiculously low burden compared to lung cancer, COPD and cardiovascular risks of combustibles.