Lowe"s bans the use of e-cigs on it's property

[rons29445]

When I spoke with the local Lowe's store manager, he made the remark that his store was bringing in over a million a week. And that he was not going to worry about someone vaping in his store.
Or he could have been making that statement as saying that he could not care about how a single customer felt about a policy they had in effect. They were making money no matter what.
Until they change the policy. I for one will not shop there and will let them and anyone who mentions their store know why I won't give them my business

 

[Slickstick]

I haven't been back since.

 

[Demarko]

I somewhat disagree here. I think what we are really talking about is a policy of Lowe's. I don't view their policy as a policy of being either anti or pro. I think it was a policy that was forced by a pro party (speculation on my part about "being forced"). To the non-vaper, vaping can look awfully similar to smoking. Lowe's is not the FDA and they are not going to do scientific research to determine if second hand vape is safe. They really have no obligation (IMO) to investigate what this "new thing" that some people are calling vaping actually is. A concern to them would be "is someone going to sue us" should we adopt a policy that says its OK to vape in our stores. To me it is not unfathomable that some anti just might bring some suit that they have been harmed by second hand vape encountered in a Lowe's and Lowe's is responsible because they allowed it. Vaper would probably be in such a suit but deep pockets would be Lowe's. The lower risk course for them - if forced - is to adopted a policy that it is not OK. "We don't really know - but it sure looks a lot like smoking - so lets just make our policy "no" and let those that wish to vape prove if safe." If safe, and it can be proven - we will allow it. If FDA says its safe - we will allow it. And with any "allowing" also presuming that local ordinances (which might change by time "proof" is provided) also allows it. So - for the case at hand - I think what has probably produced this policy of Lowe's is not that the antis have made such a good case but instead that the pros have not made their case.

The main problem is that vapor is NOT smoke - whether you aren't sure it's 100% safe or not, the fact that it isn't smoke isn't up for debate (I don't think?) And that's misinformation. Additionally, the fast dissipation, and the fact that many people DO vape without nicotine suggests that it's no more dangerous (and probably less so) in many cases as the glade air fresheners they sell. More studies are being conducted, but I certainly believe, hands down, that it should not be considered smoke - whether or not you want to allow people to do it on your property is up to you (and I can vote with my dollars).

Now, if someone is a lowe's employee and they have to check smoker or non-smoker for health insurance with that company or pay more ... If Lowe's believes that vaping = smoking, does that mean that person is a "smoker" and has to pay more for insurance? Do you believe that's right?

 

[Secti0n31]

When I spoke with the local Lowe's store manager, he made the remark that his store was bringing in over a million a week. And that he was not going to worry about someone vaping in his store.
Or he could have been making that statement as saying that he could not care about how a single customer felt about a policy they had in effect. They were making money no matter what.
Until they change the policy. I for one will not shop there and will let them and anyone who mentions their store know why I won't give them my business

See thats why I like working at Home Depot. We make the same amount of money, and we still cater to every customer individually whether they're spending $10 or $1,000. People smoke in outside garden and I don't complain about that. I haven't seen any of our managers complain about it either. I used to smoke in Outside Garden too before I worked here. Wasn't a big deal.

I'm still waiting for my GM to see me vaping and ask what it is because he's kinda passive aggressive towards smoking and I think he'd love the concept of the e-cig and ask me to try to spread the word. We'll see, but I'd rather shop at K-mart or sears than Lowes anyway.

 

[Tracker II]

Lowe's says that customers are not allowed to smoke or vape in their parking lots? LOL, now that's rich! If the day ever came that a store manager or employee told me to stop smoking or vaping in their lot as I was loading their product in my truck, I would ask for customer assistance to load everything back up and take it into the store for a full refund.

Until that day happens however, I will continue to shop there as I completely and utterly despise Home Depot.

 

[K24A3]

If there was a smoker or vaper in upper management, it would be a different story..

 

[Chornbro]

Super super lame... I highly doubt they will be very good at enforcing this... the rules were made by the higher-ups but are expected to be enforced by the lower guys... I dont know, but I'd feel like an ... asking people not to smoke/vape ANYWHERE on Lowes' property...

 

[otrpu]

I'm sorry. . .I didn't realize that my vaping in Lowe's was against the rules. I shopped there for a couple hours yesterday, went back this morning after deciding on what I wanted to purchase. Vaped in the lot, in the store, at the register, and back to my car. Nobody said a word one way or the other about it. JMHO

Cheers,
otrpu

 

[Raynen]

Is this just in the building or the parkinglot, too??

EDIT: Okay, I re-read and yeah, that's Bullst

 

[dragonlover]

when I smoked, I smoked all the up to the door of whatever establishment I was going into. I do the same with vaping. I'm with tracker II if anyone had ever told me I couldn't smoke/vape in there parking lot all the stuff I bought would go back-probably not too quietly either! What's next telling us we can't vape in our cars?

 

[otrpu]

If you live long enough I'm betting you'll see the time come when you will have to pay to park in store lots. Concerning "telling us we can't vape in our cars?"

California DOT tried to ticket professional truck driver's for smoking tobacco cigarettes in the cab of their trucks. . .California DOT claimed the driver's were smoking in their office since most driver's fill out their required driver's log while sitting in the driver seat. My conclusion: it's all about revenue my friend, safety has little to nothing to do with highway laws. JMHO

Cheers,
otrpu

 

[Deafcat64]

How lame! Unfortunately I expect to see a lot more actions such as this from a lot of businesses.

 

[Deafcat64]

If you live long enough I'm betting you'll see the time come when you will have to pay to park in store lots. Concerning "telling us we can't vape in our cars?"

California DOT tried to ticket professional truck driver's for smoking tobacco cigarettes in the cab of their trucks. . .California DOT claimed the driver's were smoking in their office since most driver's fill out their required driver's log while sitting in the driver seat. My conclusion: it's all about revenue my friend, safety has little to nothing to do with highway laws. JMHO

Cheers,
otrpu

I would have to agree. This sounds like a financially motivated thing to me as well. It's a shame that such a petty thing would be enacted.

 

[son et lumiere]

Be back in 30. Need to go to Lowes to vape. Might even find myself a nice seat. Should I bring a drink with me?

 

[Deafcat64]

Be back in 30. Need to go to Lowes to vape. Might even find myself a nice seat. Should I bring a drink with me?

Just have a drink as you're driving to Lowes!

 

[Secti0n31]

Be back in 30. Need to go to Lowes to vape. Might even find myself a nice seat. Should I bring a drink with me?

I may do that too. Just because I don't ever plan on actually shopping at lowes so if they kick me out its no harm no foul

 

[jj2]

DH wanted to go there today---we didn't.

 

[JW50]

If you live long enough I'm betting you'll see the time come when you will have to pay to park in store lots. Concerning "telling us we can't vape in our cars?"

California DOT tried to ticket professional truck driver's for smoking tobacco cigarettes in the cab of their trucks. . .California DOT claimed the driver's were smoking in their office since most driver's fill out their required driver's log while sitting in the driver seat. My conclusion: it's all about revenue my friend, safety has little to nothing to do with highway laws. JMHO


Cheers,
otrpu

That one is hard to believe!

 

[MagnusEunson]

A few days after the lead testing I did with kits from Lowe's I went back in and brought this up. At least here in Florida two locations just didn't care that I vape up and down the isles, discussing things with their professionals, etc.

So if they're enforcing it, I've yet to see that enforcement in action... -Magnus

 

[oplholik]

Seems like a non issue so far. Neither of the two Lowes I go to have any signs up or anything to indicate the new policy.