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[DanR]

I have a gallon of 6mg of nicotine coming. I figure I need 900ml of nicotine per year. This gallon (from my math) should last me 5 years. My question is simple, but I need help in finding out the answer. #1: Can I put my VG/PG and nicotine all together and then freeze it? #2: What kind of bottles should I purchase in order to freeze it?
Thanks

 

[Territoo]

The answer to #1 is yes, but it creates the need for storing a lot of bottles which takes up a lot of freezer space. Plus you must buy all those bottles and the PG/VG up front, and store it. Most people store the nicotine in the concentrated form and mix a bottle of nicotine with pg/vg to use for mixing. The answer to #2 is glass Boston rounds with plastic caps with polycone inserts. These come in a variety of sizes from 2ozs to 32 oz. Amber is best to prevent light exposure, but some people like clear to monitor nicotine color, but the wrap in tinfoil.

 

[smacuser]

Can I put my VG/PG and nicotine all together and then freeze it?

Are planning to dilute down from 6mg? If so, you might be unnessarily creating more space than needed to store it.

 

[somdcomputerguy]

I keep my 100 miggle nic and PG in the freezer, and VG in the fridge. All three could be put in the fridge, if there was enough room.. I used to put all three in the freezer, but VG and freezer temps do not get along well, basically the VG takes longer to warm up.. I could lengthen the 'pre-mix get to room temp' time which is 24 hours now, but it's hard enough to keep those bottles out of my roomies grandsons' eyesight for that long let alone more..

 

[AvaOrchid]

I find VG to be annoying when frozen That's why I actually purchased my nicotine in PG and I stored it all in the freezer. I have reasonable certainty that VG and PG will always be available because they are used in such a huge number of things and my anxiety can only spread so thin between all of the things that I worry about... So I have decided to not concern myself about VG and PG I have a gallon of VG and a liter of PG sitting on my desk in my room in my house that runs around 75° year round unless we don't have electricity in which case the freezer is not going to help me too much anyway lol. So yeah you could store them all in the freezer if you wanted to but the likelihood of The VG and the PG being used before they could even start to become less fresh is pretty high unless you're getting 55 gallon drums of it which case your house would have to convert to a freezer lol. You can freeze them all but nicotine's the one you really want to freeze and as someone else mentioned those amber glass bottles with the cone caps Make an excellent vessel

 

[DanR]

I think I'll go with the last one. Yea, your all right in your own ways. I can purchase the VG/PG all the time. It's the nicotine that I can't get at anytime anymore. So with that gallon of nicotine I'm getting, I'm going to store it away and take it out when I need it. Yea, I know it's going to be alot of bottles, but I don't know when the gates will open back up again.
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[zoiDman]

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#1: Can I put my VG/PG and nicotine all together and then freeze it?

I'm Not Exactly sure what you mean by this? If your Nicotine Base is going to come in a Higher Level, I would just Rebottle it and store it in that Higher Level Form. It will take Much Less Space that way.

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#2: What kind of bottles should I purchase in order to freeze it?
Thanks

You want to use "Boston Round" Glass Bottles that have "Poly-Cone Caps". Something like this...

8 oz. Clear Boston Round with Black Poly Cone Cap (24/400) (V4) (V7) | eBay

https://glassbottleoutlet.com/

I have done a couple of Purchases with GlassBottleOutlet. All have gone Smooth. And All Arrived Unbroken.

 

[DanR]

I think I've might of screwed up on my order, but can't change it and I've wasted the $85.00. But here it goes. I've order 1 gallon of 6mg/ml Flavorless NicBase Pre-Mixed Nicotine Liquid 50% PG/50% VG. I'm not into higher nicotine as I'm trying to cut down to 0mg Nicotine (like in 2 years), but 6mg is fine for me. Now according to my calculator (E-juice me up), I put in nicotine strength e-juice 50% PG/50%VG and in the last column I put 6 mg/ml. In the target Nicotine Strength if I put anything the calculator goes crazy and tells me it can't be done, so I leave that at zero (0). If I hit calculator again it still tells me Enter 0 in Nic Strength mg and 0 in the Target mg for NO Nicotine. My target PG is 35% and my VG target is 65%. When I do that, it states "PG 37.5 and VG 97.5 ml to add. If I did that, wouldn't that lower the nicotine level down to 0 or -0? I need some guidance here please. I'm going crazy if someone would please get me out of this mess.
Thanks

 

[smacuser]

What's your target nic strength?

 

[DanR]

My target PG is 35% and my VG target is 65%.

 

[smacuser]

How strong of nic did you want the juice you make to have?

 

[DanR]

At first 6mg/ml then in a few months go down to 5mg/ml and in a few months go down to 4mg/ml and then 3mg/ml and then 2mg/ml and then 1mg/ml and then 0mg/ml.

 

[mcduffy]

At 65%VG the highest level of nic you can achieve using only the 6mg 50%VG and 100%VG is 4.2mg per ml by mixing 7 parts of your 6mg nic to 3 of VG. That's without adding any flavoring.

You can either start vaping at 50%VG and gradually add more VG to decrease your nic level down until you reach 4.2mg, or buy a little more nic of 6mg or preferably higher mg in 100%VG.

 

[mcduffy]

Have you asked them if it's possible to cancel your order?

 

[DanR]

It was shipped the day before I thought about this problem. That's alot of nicotine. If I have to reorder, I'll make the nic 24mg. In reference to your answer above, I'm having a hard time following it sorry. So that we are on the same page of music tho let me get it right. When I get the nicotine, I shouldn't add anything to it and just add my flavor correct which is by the way is 8% and keep the target at 50-50. Am I thinking right?

 

[mcduffy]

Yes. With 8% flavor, your mix would start at 5.52mg of nic per ml and be 46%VG.

 

[DanR]

Problem solved. Return approved, ordering 24 mg nicotine tonight. Thank you all for your help.

 

[zoiDman]

Problem solved. Return approved, ordering 24 mg nicotine tonight. Thank you all for your help.

Good Deal.

Going with a Higher Nicotine Base like that 24mg/ml is going to give you a Lot More Flexibility to make the PG|VG ratio you want your Final Mix to be.

It is also going to take up a Lot Less space to store in a Freezer.

 

[puffon]

I'd just order 100mg. Makes mixing less confusing for me.

 

[DanR]

The person at nicbase was so kind that he even tried to save me money but telling me if I order this much nicotine I could just add it to what I'm getting. I said "thank you" and decided to just send what I'm getting back to them minus shipping charges and order some more.