Mechanical mods and why?

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myyrkezaan

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Thank you,my mind is made up,im goona buy both,the vamo and the tele,this way ill have double back up as i already have 3 ego batts. I must admit tho,this ecig hobby is not cheap.

Not at the beginning, once you settle on a device it becomes cheaper. I've been down the same path as you (almost exactly), you can hand out those spare ego batts to friends who want to give it a try.

My Precise+ has a lifetime warranty and can be sent in for refinishing.......what do you have again?

Another fan boy to avoid?
 

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I prefer the mechanical ones, since I just like bottom feeders, and most of them are mechanical :) I've made a VV mod, which was kinda fun, but had issues with the battery life (which may be related to my soldering skills).

Edit: I may also like mechanical mods better because I'm comparing a $150 well machined mod to something I made out of an altoids tin with a simple step-up converter, for about $10.

An 18650 in a Reo lasts me all day without very noticeable drop in power. If I end up working late, I do notice a drop. However, my VV mod would have a dead battery at that point. I prefer to keep vaping with reduced quality over not vaping at all. I realize that it can be easily solved by carrying extra batteries or leaving extra chargers at work, parents, in-laws, etc. But I prefer the comfort of knowing that I should be good for a few days when I leave the house. That's one of the reasons I don't wanna put a Kick in my Reo or my VMod.

By the way, about the change in vapor quality. Assuming that most of the people reading it have at one point smoked a cigarette, do you remember how the first half a cigarette tasted different than the last? And how a fresh open pack tasted better than the one that's been open for a few days? ;)

Like most people on this forum say, whatever keeps you off the stinkies, do that.
 
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You asked mechanical and why. In my opinion my mechanical will out last any other device on the market, other than another mechanical. I use a 1.5 carto on it with my tank and it vapes just fine. I also have a cheap YJ vv that I use with the same 1.5 carto. With my YJ I keep the volts set at 3 to 3.5 which gives me 6 watts to 8 watts. My Legacy will give me the same production with a 183500 battery. If I desire I can add a kick if needed.
 

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... And how a fresh open pack tasted better than the one that's been open for a few days?

LOL ... when I was smoking, no pack ever lasted long enough to be "open for a few days"! :laugh:

What I do remember is being halfway through a ciggie and suddenly realizing, "Holy Stinkwad, Batman, this tastes like sh8-ot!" Toward the end, almost every cigarette affected me that way ... how different now, with delicious flavors to suit my every mood! Plus, I ain't killin' myself ... :blink:
 

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I've been vaping for about 9 months now and I'm looking into getting my first fully mechanical mod. Currently I'm using the VAMO and I'm loving it. Just curious as to why mechanical mods like the GG are so popular. Without a kick or anything like that, aren't they just a glorified eGo battery since it will only be pumping out 3.7 volts with an 18650 battery life?

Sorry for the newbie question but I'm only curious.

The only time I use my Vamo anymore is when at work, using a Mini Vivi Nova tank. At home, I use genesis atomizers and generally wrap a sub-1.0 ohm twisted coil. On a mechanical that gets you over 20 watts and is purely amazing on a genesis. Since there is no regulation circuit eating away at my battery, I generally get a full days worth of exceptional vaping before I decide to swap the battery out for recharging.

If I wasn't using RBA's like a genesis I would stick with a regulated device like the Vamo. Now that I almost exclusively vape on a genesis while not at work, my regulated devices become a glorified ohm meter to check the resistance of my coils. Of course, you can buy a mechanical and use a kick for higher ohm coils and devices with less wicking action as well. I would never use a kick on a mechanical mod with a genesis atomizer though ... sorta defeats the purpose.

I use both mechanical and regulated devices ... they both have their place in my arsenal. But if I could only choose one for the rest of my life it would be a pure mechanical with a genesis atomizer ... HANDS DOWN!
 
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The only time I use my Vamo anymore is when at work, using a Mini Vivi Nova tank. At home, I use genesis atomizers and generally wrap a sub-1.0 ohm twisted coil. On a mechanical that gets you over 20 watts and is purely amazing on a genesis. Since there is no regulation circuit eating away at my battery, I generally get a full days worth of exceptional vaping before I decide to swap the battery out for recharging.

If I wasn't using RBA's like a genesis I would stick with a regulated device like the Vamo. Now that I almost exclusively vape on a genesis while not at work, my regulated devices become a glorified ohm meter to check the resistance of my coils. Of course, you can buy a mechanical and use a kick for higher ohm coils and devices with less wicking action as well. I would never use a kick on a mechanical mod with a genesis atomizer though ... sorta defeats the purpose.

I use both mechanical and regulated devices ... they both have their place in my arsenal. But if I could only choose one for the rest of my life it would be a pure mechanical with a genesis atomizer ... HANDS DOWN!

I realize that SLR genesis is all the rage at the moment, but there are plenty of people happy with running them at under 10 watts.
 

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I realize that SLR genesis is all the rage at the moment, but there are plenty of people happy with running them at under 10 watts.

Absolutely, I never stated that people won't or can't find enjoyment at lower wattage. But for someone just getting into mechanical mods who plan to use genesis atomizers it's important to note that they don't HAVE to splurge an extra $50 for a kick to have an exceptional vaping experience. Higher wattage works outstanding on a genesis atomizer and things like vapor production and nicotine delivery are increased ... which is why it's gaining popularity.

There use to be this train of thought that regulation was better on any and everything because your vape quality didn't diminish throughout the charge of a battery. This isn't necessarily the case with a fast wicking device like a genesis. For one, as the voltage drops in the battery ... the difference in vape quality is less noticeable. Secondly, the lack of a regulation circuit causes the battery voltage to drop at a slower rate.

It always comes down to personal preference but I don't think anyone will deny that the vaping experience is more "intense" as you increase your wattage and decrease resistance on a genesis atomizer. If you're trying to produce more vapor, intense flavor, and "feel" your nicotine more ... the higher the wattage the better. In such a case, a kick becomes pointless.
 

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Mechanical mods are the revolver of the vaping world. Reading the above posts you will see that some love them and some don't. I like them because at the high end they are mostly hand-crafted works of art, something that would be considered an heirloom far before any Provari or Darwin ever would. Mech mods can be finicky but they are also easier to troubleshoot and repair if needed. I guess I would consider them appealing to people that are attracted to rebuilding atomizers and genesis coils. If you love 'fiddly' things this would scratch that itch. I do agree with wanting to use a kick, it does make for a more consistent experience. All and all i love them and will day get an ihybrid just to see what all the fuss is about.


Well, not really the revolvers. Revolvers actually do EXACTLY the same thing as semi-autos do--put rounds down-range in a controlled, predictable, and reliable manner. I suppose that perhaps within the context that people assume because they are simpler machines, they are easier to use for beginners (which is myth), or because they have fewer parts, they are more reliable (another myth) that is true. Or perhaps because they require more intimate knowledge of their operation to get them to perform as desired, you need to be sort of n obsessive geek, and capable of hand-tweeking every aspect of the mechanics of the device, yeah...

I liken mechnical mods more to fully-manual ultra-high-end turntables. Both require you to do a fair amount of math to properly match the "pickup" (catridge on a TT, atty/carto on a mech mod) to get them to work properly. Both are VERY simple mechanically, and yet allow for infinate user-definable tweeking. Both are VERY reliable--under optimal conditions. Both are also succeptible to failure from tiny mechanical mis-adjustments or tiny physical mistreatment. And both require a fat wallet for the REALLY good ones...

High-end mechnical mods are status symbols--they show that the owner is willing to put a lot of time, effort and knowledge into getting the resistance load perfectly optimized. They show that someone is willing to pay a LOT of money for finely-crafted and precisely machined devices. And they show that the owner is more interested in personally controlling EVERY aspect of their vaping experience that having lots of electronics between them and their juice.

But in some cases maybe they are just blingy fashion accessories for people with more dollars than sense... ;-)
 

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I personally think it's a good Idea to have at least one of each. I personally bought a cheaper mechanical out of China thinking it would just sit on the desk and collect dust until I possibly needed an emergency backup. Little did I know it would end up being the other way around and my regulated devices would become the "backups".

Seriously though ... the current prices on chinese mods/clones are so low, you can have the best of BOTH worlds without breaking the bank. I paid around $50 for my CCTS and AGA-T2 to make a genesis mod ... worth every penny. I paid $32 for my Vamo ... worth every penny.

China has really stepped their game up in the last 12 months and are pumping out well functioning, affordable, and widely AVAILABLE devices. Grab a mechanical and see for yourself. If you prefer the Vamo, keep using it and at least you know you have a backup that should work if and when you need it to. If you prefer the mechanical, use it as your main and designate your Vamo as the backup. Like I said, I have and use both on pretty much a daily basis.
 
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I ended up getting a mechanical to have a back up for my vv pv. But as soon as I got into rba's and gen atty's, my mechanical mods became my primary, while my vv pv became my back up instead. I try to balance the use but tend to reach for my mechanical more. I don't really think there should be a debate about which is better since each one has it's uses. If your satisfied with your vv/vw pv, then just keep vaping. We all got into e-cigs to get away from the cancer sticks. But if your curious and want to see what the fuss is about slr ohms and mechanicals. You need to try it out yourself to see.
 

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I personally think it's a good Idea to have at least one of each. I personally bought a cheaper mechanical out of China thinking it would just sit on the desk and collect dust until I possibly needed an emergency backup. Little did I know it would end up being the other way around and my regulated devices would become the "backups".

Seriously though ... the current prices on chinese mods/clones are so low, you can have the best of BOTH worlds without breaking the bank. I paid around $50 for my CCTS and AGA-T2 to make a genesis mod ... worth every penny. I paid $32 for my Vamo ... worth every penny.

China has really stepped their game up in the last 12 months and are pumping out well functioning, affordable, and widely AVAILABLE devices. Grab a mechanical and see for yourself. If you prefer the Vamo, keep using it and at least you know you have a backup that should work if and when you need it to. If you prefer the mechanical, use it as your main and designate your Vamo as the backup. Like I said, I have and use both on pretty much a daily basis.

Agreed with that. Solid plan!
 
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