Mechanical Protege Switch quirky?...

[CaSHMeRe]

We have ignition.. Steve the thumb trick works great, alllows me to apply the correct pressure without mucking about with painful finger tips.. i've further noticed that already the pressure needed is less when just trying a normal finger.. So, progress. Is it just me or does it hit harder than with the tact switch? Glorious...

haha ... Within 2-3 days, you should be able to switch from thumb to finger again Or, if you get so used to your thumb, just stick with your thumb

And yes - IMO it does it harder. I believe there is a .1 - .15v increase and amperage increase as well

Happy to see you are finally starting to get it Rezo!

 

[MicciMan]

Hi Steve, when I thread my 501 adapter on too tight w/ the tact switch, the switch will stick "on" when depressed. If I loosen the adapter until the switch clicks off, it is 100% good to go. No other issues with it.

With this new mechanical switch, when I tighten the adapter, the switch sticks on when pressed but the atomizer is not getting current. So I back off until the switch does not stick. I have managed to get 4-5 hits off it now with +100 forceful presses of the switch w/ constant fiddling of the adapter (in one position, I cannot get 2 consecutive hits).

 

[CaSHMeRe]

awwww... I gotcha Micci ... So in essence, the actual button is sticking in your button housing (top 2 pieces) somehow. Did you happen to adjust your adapter center post at all? I may need to take a look at your entire unit so we can completely take care of your issue. Whether that means a new adapter/tube/etc... Doesn't sound like the switch is at fault on this one.

 

[MicciMan]

Hi Steve, beats me - but as I said if I turn the adapter just back from the spot where the tact switch sticks, everything works fine.

I tried this mech switch some more and still no luck.

Not sure what to do here since the tact switch works fine. This is my only device so I am a bit hesitant to send it in for diagnosis. I suppose I can open a ticket so we don't clutter up the forum with this................ Thanks for your help with this so far!!!!!!

 

[CaSHMeRe]

Hey Micci,

That works. Shoot Casey an email and we'll figure something out.

-Steve

 

[Ann]

I have 2 and one works just like you said, easy as pie now.
The other one will not work. May I send it back for another one? I have tried everything,switching adapters, attys, end spring caps. It won't work.
Once the switch broke in I don't have to unscrew the adapter,it's on tight just like before starting to use the new switch.

 

[CaSHMeRe]

Absolutely Ann -- You have a life time warranty on your mechanical switches Just shoot Casey an email! Now that its breaking in, how are you liking it?

 

[Ann]

Absolutely Ann -- You have a life time warranty on your mechanical switches Just shoot Casey an email! Now that its breaking in, how are you liking it?

Thank you Steve. I sent Casey an email.
I really love the new switch. It does feel good to know that I have something that I can't tear up. I think I get a bigger hit off of it also. Heck Steve, I love PS stuff.

 

[Wench]

Mine's doing better. I added some Noalox to the copper band and those little silver one's inside and it's much better.
Still in the mashing the stuffin's out of the button stage but am slowly able to tighten adapter up more as I use it.
So if you have Noalox it helps alot to help it make good contact.

 

[Ann]

Mine's doing better. I added some Noalox to the copper band and those little silver one's inside and it's much better.
Still in the mashing the stuffin's out of the button stage but am slowly able to tighten adapter up more as I use it.
So if you have Noalox it helps alot to help it make good contact.

I have never heard of Noalox.

I was just about to repost and say I got the switch working that was dead as a door nail.
I had to unscrew the adapter and push in with both fingernails but it is breaking in now. As I go I can tighten the adapter back up a little at a time.

 

[wgm]

After a four week wait, my mechanical switch finally arrived today. I wish I could say I'm glad to have it, but nope.

I've tried everything, including squeezing the button with both thumbs. I've got a pretty strong grip but this sucker just won't work. It's obviously defective. Who is designing this stuff? You shouldn't need vise grips to operate a push button.

Not that anyone else will care, but returning defects is getting expensive. I just hope the replacement doesn't take another four weeks because my replacement tact switch is acting like it's going to crap out again.

 

[Wench]

I have never heard of Noalox.

I was just about to repost and say I got the switch working that was dead as a door nail.
I had to unscrew the adapter and push in with both fingernails but it is breaking in now. As I go I can tighten the adapter back up a little at a time.

IDEAL INDUSTRIES, INC. - Noalox® Anti-Oxidant Compound

It's a conductive lubricant that keeps aluminum/copper/brass from oxidizing and seizing up. I picked mine up up Lowe's for like 2.50.
There's a few thread's running around the forums about using it on your mod's.

 

[anim8r]

After a four week wait, my mechanical switch finally arrived today. I wish I could say I'm glad to have it, but nope.

I've tried everything, including squeezing the button with both thumbs. I've got a pretty strong grip but this sucker just won't work. It's obviously defective. Who is designing this stuff? You shouldn't need vise grips to operate a push button.

Not that anyone else will care, but returning defects is getting expensive. I just hope the replacement doesn't take another four weeks because my replacement tact switch is acting like it's going to crap out again.

I had the same problem and was glad I came to this forum. Loosening or tightening, bruising my thumb, and nothing...

I was getting very frustrated.

Then I started with the adapter tightened all the way, pushed the button, nothing, backed off the adapter about an 1/8 of a turn, nothing, loosened another 1/8, nothing, repeat.

Finally, I heard the "sizzle" (about 5/8 turn total) without having to press the button that hard.

Have been hitting it for about 4 out of 5 tries with normal to strong finger pressure.

When it misses, I have to slightly tighten or loosen until it hits again, but at least I can go with simple finger presses, instead of trying to crush such a small button.

It is definitely getting better as I use it and hopefully I'll be able to have a fully tightened protege by tomorrow.


Edited: It's definitely hitting every time now (with it loosened about 5/8 of a turn for me). I got a good buzz looking for the sweet spot. I sure couldn't tell you why it doesn't work with a tightened adapter yet, and why it needs a break in, but I was this || close to sending the bugger back.

 

[wgm]

Hey anim8r,

Glad to hear it started working for you.

I'll try playing around with mine a little more before sending it back. But like I said, a simple push button shouldn't require prayer or incantations.

Thanks,
Will

 

[anim8r]

Hey anim8r,

Glad to hear it started working for you.

I'll try playing around with mine a little more before sending it back. But like I said, a simple push button shouldn't require prayer or incantations.

Thanks,
Will

True

I'm mechanically and electrically competent, but for the life of me, I can't figure out why this should happen, even if there's some odd flexing of parts or some kind of coating that needs to be worn off, you shouldn't have to loosen the adapter to get it to function like a normal switch.

Oh and I was just able to tighten it up another 1/8 after the first half hour. Working much better.

 

[Ann]

I made a tool to help me break in the new switches. My thumb nails were getting sore.
Both switches work now. I had to hold it with my left hand so I could take the pic. I really hold it by the plier handles. Hey, don't laugh, it works!

 

[tesla4me]

The crazy thing is with the 510 adapter I have to loosen it about 5/8th of a turn. With the Mini/Ace (DSE901/RN4075 & Ace/KR808D-1) adapter it works with it tightened all the way down......

 

[Ann]

IDEAL INDUSTRIES, INC. - Noalox® Anti-Oxidant Compound

It's a conductive lubricant that keeps aluminum/copper/brass from oxidizing and seizing up. I picked mine up up Lowe's for like 2.50.
There's a few thread's running around the forums about using it on your mod's.

Thanks so much for the info. I guess I better get some.

 

[j2707]

Hey anim8r....Thanks to your above post I was finally able to get the switch to work. It does hit better than the original switch and I don't really have press to hard. Hopefully by tomorrow afternoon I'll be able to tighten the adapter all the way,Thanks again!!!

 

[BrockJ]

OK.. Ok.. Ok... Here's the solution. Got my switches in the mail when I first got home from work
I had read this post previously so I was ready.
Took the switch apart and slid the copper ring down 2 - 3 mm. Tried to find something everyone would have in their home to use for my MOD.
Took some Dental Floss and wrapped in under the copper ring three revolutions and slid the ring back up tight against it. Cut it off with a razor blade and then took a BIC lighter and melted the ends down on the floss. (took forever to find a lighter because I quit smoking!!)

Done! The switch now activates just like the original tact switch. Just as eay to push and the floss helped to reduce the throw.

If for some reason you don't have Dental Floss (I don't wanna know) you can use sewing thread. Thread takes about 5 or 6 wraps but instead of cutting and burning, tie it like a pair of shoes and trim the ends.
Two switches / Two Protege's. Tried both methods and it works great.



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