Mechs ohm laws wire choice is over whelming

[stols001]

I don't think you are ......ed, I just think you need to keep experimenting.

Look, when I first wanted to start building it took me a long time to get to where I wanted to go. If I'd given up, I wouldn't be enjoying RTAs today.

You are getting so wrapped around the axle with this, that you aren't willing to put in the work. You want someone to tell you a "safe" build that will "work for you" rather than taking the time to experiment. No one can give you your "perfect" build, because you are vaping to YOUR tastes. You have gotten several suggestions for builds and until you try more of them (or maybe even something YOU and you alone want to vape) you don't have the skills necessary for vaping a mech.

Also, you don't get to whine and say it's not your fault you are "......ed." You aren't. You just need more patience, the willingness to "waste" some wire as you put it, trying some different builds. Once you get a safe and satisfying one, you can then vape it on your mech, although I would probably get going with SAFE builds and testing them on your mech as it will most likely vape a bit differently than you might imagine. So, once you've tested A build that you know is safe, then try it on your mech, repeat, recycle etc.

Anna

 

[ScottP]

Still don't know how many wraps to try first with this 26g I really hate wasting cotton and in this case wire

I don't want to experiment

I watched tutorials on steam still don't get heat flux not my fault I'm ......ed

You don't know how many wraps to try because you don't understand the basics.
You don't want to experiment to find the right vape for you on a mech, but that is what using a mech requires to find the right vape.
"......ed" or not, using a device like that takes understanding and patience that you don't just don't have.
At this point I doubt that you will ever get the satisfaction out of a mech that you want.
Please stick to regulated mods, you will be happier with them, I promise.

 

[fifamymaingame]

This place is really starting to urk me

Get the basics yeah stay above .2 ohms in single or dual coil maybe even higher to be more safe with 30 amp

Bigger wire more ramp up thiner wire more less ramp up

What I don't get is heatflux I really do not like steam engine

I got 100 bucks invested I'm not giving up just trying not to spend any more money or waste

 

[Topwater Elvis]

I mean to put above but I was blindly tapping predictive text while coughing my face off

Above .2 and my 20700s safe

Still don't know how many wraps to try first with this 26g I really hate wasting cotton and in this case wire

I don't want to experiment

I watched tutorials on steam still don't get heat flux not my fault I'm ......ed

Above in bold is one of your main problems,,, we all had to experiment to find even good builds that suited our individual tastes/wants.
If you're looking for an excellent oh wow type vaping experience, there are no short cuts when using an RBA of some sort.

If you don't want to learn the basics, fiddle & experiment, get a replaceable head type delivery device and be happy.
No sense in driving yourself crazy or make things ten times harder on yourself to get an excellent vape.

 

[dom qp]

This place is really starting to urk me

Is it really just this place? Because every time you post the same questions on Reddit they tell you the same thing as here.

Telling isn't it.

Get the basics yeah stay above .2 ohms in single or dual coil maybe even higher to be more safe with 30 amp

Bigger wire more ramp up thiner wire more less ramp up

What I don't get is heatflux I really do not like steam engine

Each time you post you're demonstrating that you do not know the basics.

Do you know why a certain resistance coil is safe with a certain battery?

Do you know why ramp up changes with wire gauge?

If you did, then you wouldn't be asking these questions. Your take away is X build works on Y. Your take away should be the reasons why these things are suggested.

Example builds are just examples. They're there to demonstrate the why that's being explained.

You can't like or not like steam engine. That's like saying you like screwdrivers but hate hammers. You either understand or don't understand how to use steam engine properly.

 

[Asbestos4004]

Stupid question....but several times now, you've alluded to being very sick and coughing your face off. What kind of flavor are you actually expecting, given your current condition?

As far as this place irking you.... We have 15 pages of people trying to help you and you basically ignore great advice. You, sir, are about as ungrateful as they come. I'm not going to read through this whole thread again, but I suspect you have yet to utter a simple thank you.

 

[Topwater Elvis]

This place is really starting to urk me

Get the basics yeah stay above .2 ohms in single or dual coil maybe even higher to be more safe with 30 amp

Bigger wire more ramp up thiner wire more less ramp up

What I don't get is heatflux I really do not like steam engine

I got 100 bucks invested I'm not giving up just trying not to spend any more money or waste

Well, that is about 20% of the basics.
Start with 28 or 30ga wrap coils with a 1.0Ω target, keep doing it until you can hit 1.0Ω every time almost with your eyes closed.
Now take one of those coils mount it, fiddle with coil positioning until you understand how that effects vape quality. Now mount 2, fiddle with coil positioning until you like it, then wicking techniques.
Then, take two strands of 28-30ga twist them together tightly, practice wrapping until you can hit a 1.0Ω target every time, now mount one of those & repeat steps above,,, keep going until you understand the results of what you're doing why you're doing it, now mount 2 of them, repeat steps above.
None of this is a waste of time or wire, 1 or 2 1.0Ω thin gauge coils will heat rapidly & have very good surface area.

IMO the above is another 20 - 30% of the basics, sounds a whole lot more difficult in print than it actually is. Might take 15 minutes or a few hours.

Had you started with the basics you would've been a proficient builder a week or more ago or found out it isn't for you.

 

[fifamymaingame]

I know more then you think I do

I've been using every premade known to man in my ammit 25 and reload till I settled on basic Claptons

I know how to find amps for batterys thanks to mooch

Guess I'll just build keep my mouth shut this place isn't friendly at all just bullies up in here

 

[stols001]

Fifty, why are you getting irked? YOUR THREAD IS 15 PAGES LONG. FIFTEEN.

I really SUCKED at building and sometimes still do, (mainly due to my fine motor tremor) and I doubt I asked more than 15 questions along the way TOTAL.

I read, I learned, and I read some more. Then asked the relevant questions and tried the answers. You are slowing yourself down with your own reluctance to read/absorb/experiment if you ask me. If anything you should be grateful that mech experts here WANT to see you succeed and are willing to put their valuable time in trying to help you (when you are difficult to help) and when you repeatedly ask what is essentially the same thing, over and over, while continuing to demonstrate you haven't mastered the basics.

You don't answer questions asked about the basics when folks ask you. You aren't willing to "waste" the time and "materials" (I probably practiced with about 30 coils, just experimenting to see if I could wrap a coil correctly without even installing most of them. I was PRACTICING.

If you want vaping to be easy, use drop in coils and a regulated mod.

If you want to vape your mech, start on page one of this thread with a notebook. Read every post, if you don't understand it, write your question (and why) in the notebook, if you don't understand steam-engine, ask the necessary questions you have that make it not make sense to you.

Some people do pick this up quicker than others, but I'm having trouble finding sympathy for you because it's clear that you HAVEN'T read (thoughtfully) you aren't WILLING to put in the effort, and you complain about "this place" when it's NOT this place it is 100% YOU.

I am both sympathetic and not, because I know how hard coilbuilding was for me. My lack of sympathy comes from the fact that I was GRATEFUL for every post I read that answered a question I had, and I USED those answers. Stop posting, reread the entire thread, demonstrate what you understand by writing it out, then attach the RELEVANT questions you have, not "I don't like steam-engine" and "I don't like ECF" and etc.

Grow. Up.

Anna

 

[dom qp]

Guess I'll just build keep my mouth shut this place isn't friendly at all just bullies up in here

Yes.

Members are bullying you into not blowing yourself up or burning off your eyebrows.

 

[Asbestos4004]

Guess I'll just build keep my mouth shut this place isn't friendly at all just bullies up in here

Really dude? Amazing.

 

[fifamymaingame]

So done cucks all of you

 

[Topwater Elvis]

15 pages of sound, solid, safe easy to understand advice from the most knowledgeable folks to be found.

You've ignored every bit of it that you don't want to hear, we can't force you to listen or learn.

Someone that has never vaped once in their life could read this thread, pick up a mech & RBA and be happily & safely vaping on it in an hour or two...

Good luck.

 

[ScottP]

So done cucks all of you

Ok I had a nice reply all ready with more advice to hopefully get this straight, then I saw this post. So for now, all I will say is:

 

[fifamymaingame]

I get ohms law all I want is suggestions for builds I totally understand how to find amps for a build and get what my batterys are capable

Above .2 I'm safe but what I don't get is how many wraps is to much for ramp up what have you

Guess I'll wrap and keep it above .3

Thinking parrell will be better for me but every value I plug in vape tool needs like 10 wraps even with 26g n80

 

[stols001]

Well, if you are "done" maybe you could go back to the start of the thread and read it taking notes? You should have the time.

I understand you are upset right now, but the points being made are valid and fair. I LOVED this thread because I learned ohm's law and I have gratitude for THAT, and you don't seem to, when I'm not even ready for a mech yet!

I will agree with whatever poster who stated that you have not said thank you, even one time, or expressed any other sort of gratitude of any kind. That's a shame, you could have been vaping your mech long ago.

Also, I really don't care how many "premade" coils you tried, if you can't do something as simple as wrapping your own coil without complaint, you are not ready for a mech. Period.

I think you THINK you know more than we think you do. I see someone who struggles with comprehension and then gets annoyed at the folks trying to help. That's not unusual, but what IS unusual is the length of the thread, although I kind of had a feeling you were going to explode at some point or another. NOT because of what was posted, but due to your OWN frustrations.

In any case, I'm more than happy this thread exists, and that I was able to snag (and copy and save) the post that finally made ohm's law totally clear. I am going to bet that you did NOT snag, copy, and save that post for your reference.

Best of luck, I really hope you calm down and rethink things. The feedback being generated is based on your own actions on this thread, not anything else. I'm surprised it took FIFTEEN PAGES for anyone to really lose patience with you, but I agree that if this isn't working, you should seek face-to-face aid. Some people learn better that way, you may be one of them.

Try a different vape shop. I would say try a different forum, but it seems that ship already sailed...

YOU seem to be the common denominator though. You say your vape shop would rather build for you than teach you, and I kind of feel like I know why. You are very, very hard to teach.

Anna

Anna

 

[stols001]

Why do you think dual build is better for you? Many folks start out with a single build. With that said, what's wrong with 10 wraps? Maybe you need a bigger build deck if you want to go dual. Or a flavormonster of a single coil build deck, they certainly exist.

Anna

 

[Topwater Elvis]

I get ohms law all I want is suggestions for builds I totally understand how to find amps for a build and get what my batterys are capable

Above .2 I'm safe but what I don't get is how many wraps is to much for ramp up what have you

Guess I'll wrap and keep it above .3

Thinking parrell will be better for me but every value I plug in vape tool needs like 10 wraps even with 26g n80

You/we already have 15 pages of that...
If you refuse to use the advice already given, what good does it do anyone to repeat it for eleventh time...

 

[fifamymaingame]

Naw I am grateful to the ones who didn't post a meme or make a wise as comment thank you did show me i was doing ohm law right

Some things are clear others are not

But know that my batterys are safe above .2 i know that I can pretty much start experiment

Just want to find my omg feels like I dripped the juice in .my mouth it's perfect build now and not later

I have read this thread and I've mostly seen no builds other then the gauges and wraps I've stated I've gotten explanations about gauges and that works

But as far as heatflux still don't get it no value i change on steam changes the heatflux this confusion on that

I look at that with vape tool probably should get the pro as looks like that is a simpler heatflux

 

[fifamymaingame]

Why do you think dual build is better for you? Many folks start out with a single build. With that said, what's wrong with 10 wraps? Maybe you need a bigger build deck if you want to go dual. Or a flavormonster of a single coil build deck, they certainly exist.

Anna

Bought the dead rabbit not selling it before I've tried everything i can before I give up on it tired of spending on mods batteries you all advised not to use tho I'm sure the 6wrap k1 I did at .27 is fine for my squonk but I hate the vape from it so I'm not sure what to build now with the 26g ni80