You crawled, you walked, you ran. Do the same with your build. As "z" said, start simple, one wire, one coil, get it right and then move on.
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I gotta agree @bwh79, that was the single best explanation of ohm's law and safety I have read, and I actually LIKE algebra, so even if it confused the OP, THANK you for doing that, Ohm's law is no longer a slightly hazy concept for me. 
Since apparently I will be tutorialing the husband at some point (he knows what Ohm's law is but says he'd have to read to check it) TY. I'll probably vape the mech myself first, but all of a sudden, things became Exactly Clear.
I agree that post should be pinned Maybe it just hit me right at the right time, but it was awesome
Fifty, is there more than one vape shop near you? Maybe you want to try a different one, sometimes the employees can be vastly different.
Anna
Since apparently I will be tutorialing the husband at some point (he knows what Ohm's law is but says he'd have to read to check it) TY. I'll probably vape the mech myself first, but all of a sudden, things became Exactly Clear. I agree that post should be pinned
Maybe it just hit me right at the right time, but it was awesome Fifty, is there more than one vape shop near you? Maybe you want to try a different one, sometimes the employees can be vastly different.
Anna
Seems your biggest issue is jumping in way over your head.
Time to slow down, go backwards to simpler & safer methods of vaping until you do understand what you're doing & why.
If you are not confident in your abilities to build or even use prebuilt coils in an RBA with a mechanical, don't do it.
You can get a satisfactory to outstanding vape without building coils or using an RBA.
Might be a good idea to start using replaceable head type delivery devices on a regulated power device while you gain knowledge & understanding and ditch the mechanical for now.
You can practice building using the regulated which has built in protection features.
Kanthal is a great place to start, no need for clapton, notch or any other fancy coils.
Thinner gauge wire heats & cools faster than thicker gauge. Less ramp up & cool down time.
You wouldn't ask people on the inter web how to pack your own parachute and jump out of an airplane or visit a local skydiving company a few times and ask advice, then pack your own chute hire your own airplane & jump wouldja...
You're not missing out on anything, there is no shame in not using RBA or mechanicals, no one will ridicule you, nobody is keeping score.
Mechanical/ RBA, regulated/ RBA, regulated/replaceable head are just different methods of vaping, they all get you to the same place.
Time to slow down, go backwards to simpler & safer methods of vaping until you do understand what you're doing & why.
If you are not confident in your abilities to build or even use prebuilt coils in an RBA with a mechanical, don't do it.
You can get a satisfactory to outstanding vape without building coils or using an RBA.
Might be a good idea to start using replaceable head type delivery devices on a regulated power device while you gain knowledge & understanding and ditch the mechanical for now.
You can practice building using the regulated which has built in protection features.
Kanthal is a great place to start, no need for clapton, notch or any other fancy coils.
Thinner gauge wire heats & cools faster than thicker gauge. Less ramp up & cool down time.
You wouldn't ask people on the inter web how to pack your own parachute and jump out of an airplane or visit a local skydiving company a few times and ask advice, then pack your own chute hire your own airplane & jump wouldja...
You're not missing out on anything, there is no shame in not using RBA or mechanicals, no one will ridicule you, nobody is keeping score.
Mechanical/ RBA, regulated/ RBA, regulated/replaceable head are just different methods of vaping, they all get you to the same place.
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So what gauge do you recommend to buy to learn I know my 20700s can handle these .212 dual coil tiger coils ka1 in my rabbit how it'll vape guess will find out
Gauge matters. The thicker the wire (including exotic builds) the longer the ramp up time in order to get a satisfying vape, so even if the RESISTANCE is the same, if you put too much metal in a build it will take longer to heat up and provide a satisfying vape, potentially stressing batteries in your mech. I'm not saying you can't do a somewhat exotic build but if you are stressing it, I still Do Not Understand why you will not PICK a round wire, use steam-engine.org to calculate how it needs to be to achieve your target of 0.5 and then INSTALL that wire. If you are using a dual coil atomizer, then you'd need two 1.0 coils, again, steam-engine is NOT hard. PICK a wire and gauge.
Honestly, I started with 28 gauge SS and it was a GOOD choice, (for me.) Steam-engine just requires that you input certain values: type of wire, diameter you are shooting for (the size of your deck may determine that) legs are the length of each side of the wire from the coil to the screw (in mm, you might estimate a bit here) and etc. Start playing around with values, it will tell you how many wraps, you might not get EXACTLY 0.5 on your first try wrapping, but that's what Ohm's meters are for. Do THAT a few times and vape on a regulated mod until you are confident.
THEN, do the same for your mech mod (or, take the build you are using, hopefully successfully) and place it on your mech mod as was stated earlier.
We can't magically calculate out for you wraps and resistance of exotic coils from the internet, sorry. That just doesn't WORK. But if you get an Ohm's reader, some wire, and PRACTICE, I think you will feel more confident.
SERIOUSLY. It's harder for ME to wrap and install a coil than many people (I have a fine motor tremor) but I wanted to LEARN and so I DID. Do I occasionally use prebuilt coils? Yeah, if I'm having a bad day and it's easier. BUT going THROUGH the process of coilbuilding is what TAUGHT me how to build coils. There is no substitute for real-world experience IMO.
Was my first RTA a crazy, revolting mess, also requiring the husband's "help" and "rescue?" Yes, yes it was. I learned more about coilbuilding from that first coil than I ever have since.
JUST GET A COILMASTER KIT AND START. On your REGULATED MOD.
Anna
Honestly, I started with 28 gauge SS and it was a GOOD choice, (for me.) Steam-engine just requires that you input certain values: type of wire, diameter you are shooting for (the size of your deck may determine that) legs are the length of each side of the wire from the coil to the screw (in mm, you might estimate a bit here) and etc. Start playing around with values, it will tell you how many wraps, you might not get EXACTLY 0.5 on your first try wrapping, but that's what Ohm's meters are for. Do THAT a few times and vape on a regulated mod until you are confident.
THEN, do the same for your mech mod (or, take the build you are using, hopefully successfully) and place it on your mech mod as was stated earlier.
We can't magically calculate out for you wraps and resistance of exotic coils from the internet, sorry. That just doesn't WORK. But if you get an Ohm's reader, some wire, and PRACTICE, I think you will feel more confident.
SERIOUSLY. It's harder for ME to wrap and install a coil than many people (I have a fine motor tremor) but I wanted to LEARN and so I DID. Do I occasionally use prebuilt coils? Yeah, if I'm having a bad day and it's easier. BUT going THROUGH the process of coilbuilding is what TAUGHT me how to build coils. There is no substitute for real-world experience IMO.
Was my first RTA a crazy, revolting mess, also requiring the husband's "help" and "rescue?" Yes, yes it was. I learned more about coilbuilding from that first coil than I ever have since.
JUST GET A COILMASTER KIT AND START. On your REGULATED MOD.
Anna
So take one coil out of my rabbit and see how that goes
I have a coil master kit
I have tried vape tool and steam engine I have better luck with vape tool
So what gauge or round wire should I get and material tho
I have never vaped round wire I don't wanna spend 15 bucks and hate the flavor
So the build in my rabbit isn't going to be safe?
Y'all just keep adding more confusion I'm sorry I'm trying to wrap my head around with this all
I have a coil master kit
I have tried vape tool and steam engine I have better luck with vape tool
So what gauge or round wire should I get and material tho
I have never vaped round wire I don't wanna spend 15 bucks and hate the flavor
So the build in my rabbit isn't going to be safe?
Y'all just keep adding more confusion I'm sorry I'm trying to wrap my head around with this all
FI, this has been said several times, in several ways. There is a reason for this repetition.
If you are confused, frustrated & don't know what you're doing and why, just stop.
Use a replaceable head type delivery device on a regulated power device until you understand the what's & why's.
There is no confusion on our part, if you don't know what you're doing & why, don't do it, stop, use something else.
I learned on 30ga Ka, but that doesn't mean it will work for your application.
After years of fiddling around I see no point in building anything now, if & when I do I use 26ga Ka or twisted 28 or 30ga.
Is that .212Ω total resistance? 2 .424Ω coils, or 2 .212Ω = .106Ω, makes a big difference.
One draws 39a the other 19a.
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Try just one coil in my rabbit now or wrap one wire and see how it turns out
My squonk and 20700s come in Tuesday now I'm scared to use the coils in my rabbit
My squonk and 20700s come in Tuesday now I'm scared to use the coils in my rabbit
Fifty, is it anxiety about things that is making this a problem for you? Can you vape your current RTA with a single coil? Have you calculated that the resistance is SAFE for YOUR (Mooch approved and tested battery)? (I mean you doing it, not someone else). If the answer to both questions in your own mind is yes, and you believe yourself, then go for it.
Vape it on a regulated mod to make sure all is well first, then put it on your mech. I mean, you are going to have to at some point, correct?
As long as you are within safe limits, the worst thing that will likely happen is that you don't love the vape.
Vape it on a regulated mod to make sure all is well first, then put it on your mech. I mean, you are going to have to at some point, correct?
As long as you are within safe limits, the worst thing that will likely happen is that you don't love the vape.
I have been buying premades installing them my self on paranormal just never built for a mech
Doing the math the coils should be fine with my 20700s but now y'all got me scared to use my squ9nk even more
Doing the math the coils should be fine with my 20700s but now y'all got me scared to use my squ9nk even more
With that said, probably a good idea to just run the coil resistance and build and your battery and your calculations by folks here first, as a safety check, y'know?
But, pick something. Then verify it for YOURSELF that it's safe, then report it here, and if it's okay, then vape it.
Anna
But, pick something. Then verify it for YOURSELF that it's safe, then report it here, and if it's okay, then vape it.
Anna
Yes.
Remove one coil. Mount the other diagonally like the slash on the letter "X." Use long tails on your wick.
That's why I'm asking if the build in my rabbit is safe
4.2/ .212 = 19 amps I'm using 30 amp 20700s
4.2/ .212 = 19 amps I'm using 30 amp 20700s
Ok hopefully the flavor is still great love how it tastes
You didn't answer the question.
Is that .212Ω total resistance? 2 .424Ω coils?
Or 2 .212Ω coils = .106Ω, it makes a big difference.
One draws 39a the other 19a.
But I just went on a spending spree and I really wanna use the rabbit in dual coil mode but I can rock a single for now
How do you calculate how much power is going into coil I seen someone in mooches recent video
How I figured
4.2/ into ohm = amp
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