Mechs ohm laws wire choice is over whelming

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Eskie

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I agree with your whole post, except for this statement. His formula to calculate wattage IS correct (Voltage squared / resistance). However as you and I have both pointed out, there is no need to know wattage with mechs.

You are correct. My bad. Jumping through what to say increases brain burps exponentially.
 

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Or the OP could use the simple ohms law calculator I linked to in a previous post, or one of the dozen other available.
They will give him all the particulars by simply entering 4.2v and the measured total actual resistance.

IMO, the OP is making this way harder than it actually is.
When you start with the basic & only take the next step after you get comfortable / understand what your doing it really is fairly simple & safe.
 
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I don't get it as long my builds not under. 2 I'm safe that's 21 amps I have 30 amps wtfs the issue yeah maybe not the best as don't leave much cdr as most say have 50% gap but the 3 shops I've talked today have both said 2 .7 kanthal coils would take for ever to ramp up

Why do I want to start off with a ....ty vape waste wore and juice
If I know .2 or
3 is safe why can't i see how that resistance isn't going to vape If it's not pushing my batterys close to it's 30 amps
 

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Um... You can defend your choice? Or you can build it? I thought you said your vape shop wasn't helpful and just wanted to "build things" for you, how are they now so helpful?

SAFETY trumps VAPE. Also, if you aren't going to jump, stop posting why you aren't going to jump. PICK ONE.

With the understanding that if YOU are fine with it, why do you need the interwebz to agree with you? NO ONE is even remotely near your location, I'd bet. Go ahead then.

I personally feel that lived experience is neither a waste of time, or resources, if used correctly (to learn).

Sigh. You are a grown adult, no one needs to give you permission. You can do what YOU want.

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I don't get it as long my builds not under. 2 I'm safe that's 21 amps I have 30 amps wtfs the issue yeah maybe not the best as don't leave much cdr as most say have 50% gap but the 3 shops I've talked today have both said 2 .7 kanthal coils would take for ever to ramp up

Why do I want to start off with a ....ty vape waste wore and juice
If I know .2 or
3 is safe why can't i see how that resistance isn't going to vape If it's not pushing my batterys close to it's 30 amps

Do you have good medical insurance?
 

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I don't get it as long my builds not under. 2 I'm safe that's 21 amps I have 30 amps wtfs the issue yeah maybe not the best as don't leave much cdr as most say have 50% gap but the 3 shops I've talked today have both said 2 .7 kanthal coils would take for ever to ramp up

Why do I want to start off with a ....ty vape waste wore and juice
If I know .2 or
3 is safe why can't i see how that resistance isn't going to vape If it's not pushing my batterys close to it's 30 amps
The issue is, you don't know what the hell you're doing. Not even the slightest clue. You've made it clear. 6 pages worth of crystal clear evidence that you and a mech mod shouldn't be in the same house. You ignore good advice and insist on a certain resistance rather than a preferred result. The issue is, you're the next news story....you and your 8mm legs.
 

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Mostly because you are taking poor vape shop advice as gospel & ignoring the many experienced folks that have given excellent advice keeping your safety in mind.
This forum is a very broad spectrum resource of many very experienced folks willing to share their knowledge which obviously is not what you want to hear.
Slow down, start with the basics, jumping into low Ω & complex builds without a solid foundation of the basics and considering your confusion level and your unwillingness to take reasonable, safe, sane advice it seems unproductive to those willing to give it.

Again not trying to be rude, you simply do not understand the very beginning basics, you can build a 2.5Ω kanthal coil that heats instantly, use 2 = 1.25Ω and it will still heat instantly.
Resistance has very little to do with ramp up, coil mass does. Less mass faster ramp up.

And it's been said, you can get any vape quality you like without going that low, it is all a matter of understanding the basics.
Obviously you don't = bad idea, I for one won't contribute to someone that ignores good advice & refuses to take the steps necessary to gain the knowledge & experience.

You want to go from riding a bicycle to flying a jet skipping all the steps in-between and without the knowledge required to do so safely,,, great, go ahead, who knows you might just soar like an eagle.
 
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2 .7 kanthal coils would take for ever to ramp up
That depends greatly on what gauge of Kanthal is used to make those coils. A big fat 22ga will be a much longer wire and have a lot more metal mass to heat up, taking much longer to do so than a short, skinny little 30ga wire at the same resistance.

Let's back up. Beyond all the ranting and steaming about what they said at the shop, what is your actual question? Please state it clearly, and we will answer in kind.
 

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I don't get it as long my builds not under. 2 I'm safe that's 21 amps I have 30 amps wtfs the issue yeah maybe not the best as don't leave much cdr as most say have 50% gap but the 3 shops I've talked today have both said 2 .7 kanthal coils would take for ever to ramp up

Why do I want to start off with a ....ty vape waste wore and juice
If I know .2 or
3 is safe why can't i see how that resistance isn't going to vape If it's not pushing my batterys close to it's 30 amps

As long as your Ohm Measurement is Accurate, then 0.2 Ohms or more should be Fine if your Battery(s) can handle 30 Amps.

But Building at 0.3 or 0.35 Ohms smooth's out the "as long as" and the 'if" in the above sentence.

The Thing is when you use a Mech, you Shouldn't run Everything right at the Edge of the Limit. And you should Build In a little Safety Factor.

So the thing you Measure the Ohms with is a Little Off. Or you stress your Battery(s) by doing some Deep Discharges. Now you are a Lot Closer to your CDR Limit than you think.

What we are Trying to Do here in this Thread is to get you in the Mindset that you Need to stand a little farther away from the Cliff Edge when using a Mech.

And all these Numbers that keep getting kicked around are when Everything is Perfect. But we Don't Live in a Perfect World.

Just try a 0.35 (0.7 Ohms Each) Build.

And if it Horrible, and you wasted 60 Cents worth of Wire and e-Liquid, then you can come back and tell Us how it was a Complete waste of time.
 
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I went to vapor gate and talked to them and few other shops I never been to and asked they made things clear mostly yoshi said he would sit down with me when I get my wire this is the same yosh who made the mason tank

Can't seem to find any wire tho

I'm pick up a spool for 24g 26g ni80 and 24g 26g 316l Friday when I get paid
 

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Lol that's a shop who also made a 30mm tank I can find kanthal pretty easy much all anyone has so I'll end up ordering 24 26 gauge of all 3 Friday sucks tho wanted to use the hugo squeezer today as I don't think any of the Claptons will work I got some really small think 26 36ssl I tossed the tiger coils away and threw in some 316 Claptons in my rabbit and they suck no flavor both coils for that where .50 even on both came to a .25 probably got the gauges wrong it was some spool I got a few months ago and wrapped a few but I can't remember what gauges going to end up tossing those away too and just start fresh
 
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