My favorite Chong line was in the movie McHale's Navy, "Wow, I'm having a flashback to a concert I haven't been to yet!"
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But do you remember the 60's?
I was a late bloomer, it's the 80's that are a blur.
Id be happy to hook a brother up. <==Said in my best street corner accent
Xobeloot before the Army
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Or just drill right thru the sonofa if it has a centre post! There's a certain satisfaction in that too!
I think dholmes showed that mod - but then he only posted again recently which made me think he'd lost fingers in the process - so i went the Dibby way!
T
well, to be sure, the dibby way is much more civilized.
was it Commie? used to cut away some gasket
dhomes took a grinder to the shaft
Me and Mr. T use the precision surgical technique (because we're simply better)
was it Commie? used to cut away some gasket
dhomes took a grinder to the shaft
Me and Mr. T use the precision surgical technique (because we're simply better)
After my small mishap with one of my wife's chef's knives i am banned from the kitchen and i have never found where to buy scalpels.
Now i am not even allowed a small wooden knife to open my junk mail :/
T
so i bought a dremel last week
Now i am not even allowed a small wooden knife to open my junk mail :/
T
so i bought a dremel last week
well, it's a good thing your wife doesn't read small lettering . . . . .. hi, smurfy!
'Trunker - what does that say? say hi back!' - i see how mobile phone contracts can go horribly wrong now.
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Surface area vs coil diameter question. If you need X number of inches for Y omhs doesn't length X determine your surface area regardless of the coil diameter? You can't create area by virtue of configuration.
Why wouldn't larger coils with a shorter travel time from the ends, where to saturated cotton lives, to the center where the heat lives, be better? I always like a shorter commute!
Wondering,
Brent
Sorry about the "X Y" language.
Why wouldn't larger coils with a shorter travel time from the ends, where to saturated cotton lives, to the center where the heat lives, be better? I always like a shorter commute!
Wondering,
Brent
Sorry about the "X Y" language.
@brfrompa
I would infer that with a good wick the amount of liquid available is not the amount in it but its capacity to move Z ml of liquid through the coil.
Therefore the capacity of the coil to heat is the only variable and the surface area is not the only element in the mix, the heating synergy seems to be important as well (maximizing the watts for vaporization and not only heating dryer parts of the wick or the exterior). Technically speaking, vaporization can also be seen as a cooling phenomenon (vaporization cools the coil, maintaining the temperature, as long as you inhale to maintain more or less constant pressure).
Concentrating the (same) surface reduces the heat "lost" when/if the capacity to move liquid is correct.
Another completely different aspect (more gustative than technical) is the temperature of the vapor itself. With a smaller volume with vapor and liquid and coil, the vapor temperature is maximized and it seems to be pleasing (most modern systems reduce the volume in which the vaporization occurs).
But I didn't do the math...
I would infer that with a good wick the amount of liquid available is not the amount in it but its capacity to move Z ml of liquid through the coil.
Therefore the capacity of the coil to heat is the only variable and the surface area is not the only element in the mix, the heating synergy seems to be important as well (maximizing the watts for vaporization and not only heating dryer parts of the wick or the exterior). Technically speaking, vaporization can also be seen as a cooling phenomenon (vaporization cools the coil, maintaining the temperature, as long as you inhale to maintain more or less constant pressure).
Concentrating the (same) surface reduces the heat "lost" when/if the capacity to move liquid is correct.
Another completely different aspect (more gustative than technical) is the temperature of the vapor itself. With a smaller volume with vapor and liquid and coil, the vapor temperature is maximized and it seems to be pleasing (most modern systems reduce the volume in which the vaporization occurs).
But I didn't do the math...
Just guesses here on my part.
There is the wick / juice heat sink effect.
A larger diameter coil has more juice between sides of the coil which draws heat away from the wire.
More wire mass is concentrated into a smaller cross section creating more available heat energy.
There is the wick / juice heat sink effect.
A larger diameter coil has more juice between sides of the coil which draws heat away from the wire.
More wire mass is concentrated into a smaller cross section creating more available heat energy.
I can't do the math so it is all gustaltive for me!
Thinking about the larger coil having a bigger heat sink of wick in the center might make a difference.
Maybe all this thought really boils down to delivering more or less watts.
Just interesting stuff. Great feed back.
Brent
k101, ITaste VV, REO Grand
Thinking about the larger coil having a bigger heat sink of wick in the center might make a difference.
Maybe all this thought really boils down to delivering more or less watts.
Just interesting stuff. Great feed back.
Brent
k101, ITaste VV, REO Grand
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I notice when heating the coils before wicking, that a bigger ID coils seems to take longer to glow, even if it's a lower ohm.
If that was a question about why micro coils perform different from large diameter, loosely stacked coils. It has to do with shared heat energy between wraps vs dissipating into the airflow and a larger wick/juice mass. Exited (Heated) atoms (nuclei) give bigger targets for electrons and actually increase resistance, increasing heat, increasing resistance, etc. So, it's not about more surface area, it's about 1 giant surface area (which, due to conserved heat energy) behaves in a more extreme fashion than a long skinny line.
maybe.
The other aspect. The smaller diameter of the coil, I think, gets closer to the ideal proportion of the juice to heat ratio. Put your coil (imaginatively) into a teaspoon of e-liquid. Now put it into a soup bowl of e-liquid. The heat energy is more effective in vaporization when applied to the appropriate mass of liquid. Too large a pot, and it dissipates without the desired effect. A tepid bowl of soup.
maybe.
The other aspect. The smaller diameter of the coil, I think, gets closer to the ideal proportion of the juice to heat ratio. Put your coil (imaginatively) into a teaspoon of e-liquid. Now put it into a soup bowl of e-liquid. The heat energy is more effective in vaporization when applied to the appropriate mass of liquid. Too large a pot, and it dissipates without the desired effect. A tepid bowl of soup.
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I've had to take a break from micro coils for a bit. They're so damned efficient I need to lower my nic content or get woozy like I did last night. My problem is I have over $300.00 in juices and I just can't see purchasing more right now.
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If that was a question about why micro coils perform different from large diameter, loosely stacked coils. It has to do with shared heat energy between wraps vs dissipating into the airflow and a larger wick/juice mass. Exited (Heated) atoms (nuclei) give bigger targets for electrons and actually increase resistance, increasing heat, increasing resistance, etc. So, it's not about more surface area, it's about 1 giant surface area (which, due to conserved heat energy) behaves in a more extreme fashion than a long skinny line.
maybe.
The other aspect. The smaller diameter of the coil, I think, gets closer to the ideal proportion of the juice to heat ratio. Put your coil (imaginatively) into a teaspoon of e-liquid. Now put it into a soup bowl of e-liquid. The heat energy is more effective in vaporization when applied to the appropriate mass of liquid. Too large a pot, and it dissipates without the desired effect. A tepid bowl of soup.
The soup bowl vs teaspoon is a good visual. And the longer tighter coil with more of the wire in the hot center coils and big diameter coil with long cool outside coils is a case for the small dia coils.
It's making some sense. The shared energy thing.
Brent
k101, ITaste VV, REO Grand
i still got a buttload of dusty cheap-azz clearos i could send ya, if it'd help...
I was gonna say, Puyallup! I could come over and vape off a good 100 bucks worth, if ya' need me, Dan
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