Okay I'll address this and hopefully put it all to bed John.
See, us Mountaineers are not the usual suspects. That is to say, we are not just chatters on a
thread or just here to gawk at tips. We are FAMILY. Like it or not. We have our Grandmothers and dog and cat lovers. Horse owners and admirers. Sons and daughters. Me, I have no children except Kat and Angel. My grandkids are Sarah and Welshy. I have got a real family here. They just don't know it yet.
Kayte is everyone's sister or part time mom, (she get's on to me every now and then just for good measure)

Those followers were not Mountaineers. Maybe they wanted to be but got a bit "F" for FAIL in Mountaineering and didn't even develop good Gunslinger skills.
I don't come on here just to see tips or
buy tips. I truly care about everyone here.