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Switched

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crazy... didn't even realize what Switched was using that night was a mechanical device... soooo many choices out there!! reminiscent of when I was looking for my first starter kit. I'm hoping too that a higher voltage device will make some of the juice I have now taste better... feels like I'm vaping them now just because I have them... they'll have to do until I get some new stuff in
There is a difference between HV and LV vaping, I will be the first one to admit that, but. As we discussed, matching the attys (resistance) to the battery and finding that sweet spot will render near identical results, when vaping at a known wattage. e.g...

Vaping low resistance on a standard 16340 batt provides a decent vape, but the battery is being stressed and "full" current is not delivered to the atty, to provide designed wattage. Now change the standard LI Ion batt to an IMR 16340 (capable of delivering the req'd current) and you would swear you are vaping a different PV.

thank you for the recommendation, I will certainly put it as "one to consider" right now.. I'm actually reading Switched' review on his P18 in another window right now :p
... having vapes this device for 2 weeks now, my follow up review will contain very little new info. I am surprised that I have more less been using it at 3.7V. I believe it is more akin to the current situation I a in, vice not using it a 6-7V. The choice between the P16 and P18? For the same price, the P18 hands down because it has the capability of doing 6-7V.

prodigy v3 is probably best bang for your buck in HV tube style, plus you can use it with 1 17630 for 1800mah 3.7 vape.

Green Blanky Review: Super T Manufacturing’s Precise P18 18650 mod » Tenburn's Reviews a very good review and comparison between the 2 devices. My decision for the P18 was because the V3 was not announced yet and because the major switch problems expereinced by members of the V2. I am glad that PS was finally capable of putting that behind them with both the V3 and Icon.

I didn't get the luxury to really examine switched' P18 on tuesday, but the vape from it was really nice (at least compared to my eGo).

I didn't even realize it was the same manufacturer as the super t t-tips... I have both the ss shorty and reg and love them. I don't doubt the quality considering how much praise Switched gave to this device. The P10 looks cool too, but I'm unsure of the battery life on it...

For a sleek elegant look when wearing a suit or whatever, where a certain amount of sophistication may be req'd perhaps, but you are looking at 3-4 hours compared to 29+ for batt life, and it is not recommended to use the P10 with LR atties, which in turn will reduce batt life around 1.5-2 hrs.
 

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I didn't get the luxury to really examine switched' P18 on tuesday, but the vape from it was really nice (at least compared to my eGo).

I didn't even realize it was the same manufacturer as the super t t-tips... I have both the ss shorty and reg and love them. I don't doubt the quality considering how much praise Switched gave to this device.
In absolute all honesty, if you were to own but one device outside of your eGo, then I would indeed go with the P18. Unfortunately most become mod "whores" which in all honesty is not really fair.The advancement that has taken place in the 6 months I have been vaping, were phenominal. When I started the 14500 and 16340 batts were considered big batt mods. Now look where we are at.

Like I said my views are skewed. I know of certain devices that are coming down the pipe, some of them would blow your mind, but they are not entirely mechanical. To me this is a big negative. Does this mean they are bad? No. Is the SuperT line affordable? When compared to the price of some of the mods out there, absolutely. I personally do not believe the quality can be surpassed by anyone out there at this time. As in my review, the Precise line carries it's name quite well. The precison is second to none. I am a former machinist and can vouch for that. User serviceability is a big plus, plus the Lifetime Warranty on the device, that in itself should speak volumes wrt the quality. Some have stepped up to the plate wrt lifetime warranty in this dog eat dog world. But SuperT was indeed the first. I am not a SuperT fanboy, but I have to give props where props are due, and they are well deserved.
 

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I'd steer you away from the 10440. It just doesn't have the horsepower. Battery life is hardly any better then the std ecig batts and it just can't drive LR attys (which is a requirement for me). A P10 could be a very elegant device for lightweight use, a fashion item, but I personally couldn't justify the price for that purpose (especially considering i would absolutely need another as a primary device). If I was looking for a lightweight 10440 device, I'd pick up an IkenVape Laser for a fraction of the price.

For me personally, a primary device needs a battery no smaller then 16340. That's very similar in capacity to an eGo battery. I get 5 or 6 hours out of a 16340 IMR. I'm pretty sure an 18650 would last a full day and then some.

Anyway... I'd say look at 16340 and up on the battery.

thanks for the advice! ya, I don't necessarily need a smaller device to use... I'm sure down the road they'll come out with something that is more compact with the punch and battery life that most of us are looking for. I'm gonna have to do a bit more researching on batteries too... :(
 

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In absolute all honesty, if you were to own but one device outside of your eGo, then I would indeed go with the P18. Unfortunately most become mod "whores" which in all honesty is not really fair.The advancement that has taken place in the 6 months I have been vaping, were phenominal. When I started the 14500 and 16340 batts were considered big batt mods. Now look where we are at.

Like I said my views are skewed. I know of certain devices that are coming down the pipe, some of them would blow your mind, but they are not entirely mechanical. To me this is a big negative. Does this mean they are bad? No. Is the SuperT line affordable? When compared to the price of some of the mods out there, absolutely. I personally do not believe the quality can be surpassed by anyone out there at this time. As in my review, the Precise line carries it's name quite well. The precison is second to none. I am a former machinist and can vouch for that. User serviceability is a big plus, plus the Lifetime Warranty on the device, that in itself should speak volumes wrt the quality. Some have stepped up to the plate wrt lifetime warranty in this dog eat dog world. But SuperT was indeed the first. I am not a SuperT fanboy, but I have to give props where props are due, and they are well deserved.

I value your opinion and will definitely do some more research on it, although your review is probably the most thorough. I'm not a machinist, an electrician or even a "handy guy" but can still appreciate quality work and craftmanship. Pictures for a lot of these mods make them all look amazing! at least I was able to feel, and vape withe P18. Was that set at 3.7V that night?

I think it was the same thread where you reviewed the P18, but one of these devices that you know is coming out soon from SuperT, but I recalled you mentioning there was a device with juice feeding mechanism of some sort?
 

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There is a difference between HV and LV vaping, I will be the first one to admit that, but. As we discussed, matching the attys (resistance) to the battery and finding that sweet spot will render near identical results, when vaping at a known wattage. e.g...

Would you be so kind to send me that chart you made up? I'll admit I didn't look at it very carefully, and both me and Inked were perplexed at it :D but I think it's simple enough to understand if took some time to analyze it



Green Blanky Review: Super T Manufacturing’s Precise P18 18650 mod » Tenburn's Reviews a very good review and comparison between the 2 devices. My decision for the P18 was because the V3 was not announced yet and because the major switch problems expereinced by members of the V2. I am glad that PS was finally capable of putting that behind them with both the V3 and Icon.
Thanks for the link! I will certainly check it out!

For a sleek elegant look when wearing a suit or whatever, where a certain amount of sophistication may be req'd perhaps, but you are looking at 3-4 hours compared to 29+ for batt life, and it is not recommended to use the P10 with LR atties, which in turn will reduce batt life around 1.5-2 hrs.

Do you know of any devices that are similar to the P10 in terms of style that pack a bigger punch and better on battery life?
 

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Fact is, I don't.

I like to play and tinker with equipment, and am fascinated as to how all the different vaping devices perform, seemingly under the same load.

While mod collecting is kinda fun, it's a self-admittedly a pointless hobby.

:)

If I had to narrow things down:

1. Bartelby 3.7 Box Mod with LR atomizer (works as a USB passthru as well)
2. Nuck's Fist Pack w/ Cartomizers (works as a USB passthru as well)
3. MP1 (mr puffer) Juice Box (the cheapest one out there, and performs just as well as the more expensive counterparts)

I have a few more mods which didn't make the journey to the meet as well.

Those are the ones that I use regularly. The rest, while having strengths and weaknesses, all just take up cupboard space, and I just bring them out to share with other members.

I do want a Super T now that I have played with one, and after that, will prob retire from the mod collecting game.
 

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Fact is, I don't.

I like to play and tinker with equipment, and am fascinated as to how all the different vaping devices perform, seemingly under the same load.

While mod collecting is kinda fun, it's a self-admittedly a pointless hobby.

:)

If I had to narrow things down:

1. Bartelby 3.7 Box Mod with LR atomizer (works as a USB passthru as well)
2. Nuck's Fist Pack w/ Cartomizers (works as a USB passthru as well)
3. MP1 (mr puffer) Juice Box (the cheapest one out there, and performs just as well as the more expensive counterparts)

I have a few more mods which didn't make the journey to the meet as well.

Those are the ones that I use regularly. The rest, while having strengths and weaknesses, all just take up cupboard space, and I just bring them out to share with other members.

I do want a Super T now that I have played with one, and after that, will prob retire from the mod collecting game.

don't think I saw the MP1 or the Bartleby... or if I did I don't remember which ones they were.. Fist pack certainly looked cool and I liked the variable votage and the LED battery indicator for sure! I'm comparing this unit now with the Little Sister.

Just looked up the MP1 on his site and I would love a direct juice feed mod... seems like it's a ton cheaper too compared to the Journeymen
 

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http://www.............com/showthread.php?t=4021

after i get my projects cleared from the table, im gunna build one i think... just cant spend 200 on it, but now that i have tried one, i gotta have one....
its kinda like "chasing the dragon"

"..........." is the blanked out word.. guess ecf dont like the competitors.

v a p e r s f o r u m
 
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http://www.............com/showthread.php?t=4021

after i get my projects cleared from the table, im gunna build one i think... just cant spend 200 on it, but now that i have tried one, i gotta have one....
its kinda like "chasing the dragon"

"..........." is the blanked out word.. guess ecf dont like the competitors.

v a p e r s f o r u m

that's a very detailed DIY.... I might have to forego a couple of rounds of golf to save up and buy one ... it's near the top of my list for sure for the Variable Volt mods, thanks for the link
 

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I recommend the Prodigy V3.
I have quite a few mods.
This one is the most bang for your buck-- it's completely mechanical so if something goes wrong it's completely user serviceable. And it's VERY easy to clean or fix up (very little can go wrong with it) it looks sleek and sexy-- I wouldn't worry taking it out of my tux and vaping on it at a wedding or business meeting.
17670 and you'll have a 3.7v vape for almost 3 days
2x 123's and you'll have a great 6v vape
I put a titanium ring on the contact (PS sells them), put my batteries in upside down, and it resisted it down to 5v! So now I have a 5v V3 that is absolutely ROCKIN'!!!
Highly recommended man....
 

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ya Prodigy V3 looks cool too and probably better "value"... I am the type of guy that likes the "best of the best" though... just to be clear on both these devices though, or at least with the P18; you can only get different voltages with different batteries? there isn't a switch to quickly adjust them (like on the Fist Pack or Little Sister)?
 

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That is correct.. the v3 and the p18 you need to use differant battery combo to get HV... where as FistPak Uses a Voltage Boost and a voltage regulator to give varible voltage off a single 18650 cell, the little sister uses 2 10440 in parralell and a voltage regulator for Variable voltage.

sounds good.. well either way if I were to be vaping at 3.7V with the P18 or V3 it'll be higher than the eGo anyways... I'm just hung up on the variable voltage and how "convenient" it is...
 

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Worth mentioning with the FistPack.......

When summer sales suspension is lifted (Nuck needed a break), He will be possibly offreing a Hybrid version with options for a slider with 5 voltage settings, or a dip switch choice that would offer 16 different voltage setttings. This, of course, at the moment, is in the testing stages.

Also..... a couple of us are Nuck nudging to get him to attempt incorporating an Ego cone adaptor onto the FistPack to use (I REALLY want this to happen).

VapeOn,
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