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DingerCPA

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Midnight is a Sir.... avatar I believe is his beautiful wife???? Now I am a Ma'am but I was not part of the conversation...

^^^ Yeah, I wondered that for a LOOOOOONG time. I try not to "Sir" or "Ma'am" unless I'm 100% sure (because I'm also a "Ma'am", but get called "Sir" way too often - large-framed, like my Dad, but short hair and no makeup.... People don't look very carefully - I have one (well two) dead-giveaways that somehow get overlooked :lol::)

Thanks, I have been on the verge of re utilizing, just haven't taken the plunge

^^^ DJ, super-easy. Couple of good links from which I learned.... http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ictorial-evod-rewicking-cotton-recoiling.html and http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/blogs/brookj1986/6066-simple-protank-coil-replacement.html
 

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Love lightning vapes! I ordered my kanthal from Amazon $5.59 for 100ft. Its from lightning vapes well that's what the label says.
Being able to rebuild your own coils make it so much more affordable to vape as much as you want. Now next step finding decent priced juice. Lol
Pkus you combine all this with the PT2 and the MVP 2 its the perfect vaping combo I have found so far. Love it!
 

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^^^ Yeah, I wondered that for a LOOOOOONG time. I try not to "Sir" or "Ma'am" unless I'm 100% sure
(because I'm also a "Ma'am", but get called "Sir" way too often - large-framed, like my Dad, but short hair and no makeup....
People don't look very carefully - I have one (well two) dead-giveaways that somehow get overlooked :lol::)

like we always say, without pictures, it never happened :D
 

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Love lightning vapes! I ordered my kanthal from Amazon $5.59 for 100ft. Its from lightning vapes well that's what the label says.
Being able to rebuild your own coils make it so much more affordable to vape as much as you want.

Now next step finding decent priced juice. Lol

Plus you combine all this with the PT2 and the MVP 2 its the perfect vaping combo I have found so far. Love it!

if you haven’t yet, need to try Mt Baker Vapor (MBV)
they have all varieties of juice, some good, some bad…

go thru their list & pick a few out that sounds good to you
if you only find two or three you like you’ll still be happy

a great Co. with Super Fast shipping and best prices around
- Nicotine Juice - Tobacco Flavors - Mt Baker Vapor - Electronic Cigarettes
some I’m fond of - Blu Bacco/555/Peach Tobacco/Banana Nut Bread

:)
 

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Soo cool I was just a lonely Mk12 IFF and Radar tech in the Navy.. My dad was flight engineer on C-130s though (Air Force).. Was awesome when I got a chance to go up with him
I was an AE (aviation electricians mate) in the Navy; I fixed automatic flight control systems on Sikorsky H-60 helicopters.

Sort of embarrassed that we didnt cover thermal mass in A-school or C-school, but there it is :p
 

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Midnight is a Sir.... avatar I believe is his beautiful wife???? Now I am a Ma'am but I was not part of the conversation...


Lets be fair here lol, anybody new is of course going to think " female " when there happens to a picture of a "female " in your avatar.
 

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Lets be fair here lol, anybody new is of course going to think " female " when there happens to a picture of a "female " in your avatar.
I totally agree herb. I just happen to "know" Midnight from other threads we participate in. Otherwise I would have thought the same thing.
 

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Those work good with PT heads? On another note does the below fit regular plastic bottles , it say Dekang plastic bottles.

Thanks

Five needle tip dropper caps for Dekang e-Liquid bottles

I use Protank heads in my EVODs. I have LOTS of them (EVOD/clones). Not sure about the bottle caps; the ones at Vapor King have a lip on the sides; look at your current tips and if they have that lip on the sides I would guess, just a guess, they would. Also note these do not work with a lid on the bottle. These are similar but lids fit. Fasttech, so not the fastest to get... these also have the "lip".

$0.81 Plastic Long Tips for Dropper Bottle (10-Pack) 10-pack - 7.6mm/0.3" bottom diameter at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping
 

herb

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if you haven’t yet, need to try Mt Baker Vapor (MBV)
they have all varieties of juice, some good, some bad…

go thru their list & pick a few out that sounds good to you
if you only find two or three you like you’ll still be happy

a great Co. with Super Fast shipping and best prices around
- Nicotine Juice - Tobacco Flavors - Mt Baker Vapor - Electronic Cigarettes
some I’m fond of - Blu Bacco/555/Peach Tobacco/Banana Nut Bread

:)

I don't order juice anymore from anybody since DIY is so much easier and cheaper , unfortunately a study was released two days ago i believe that said 74% of e juice (especially sweet ones) has considerable amounts of Diacetyl .


Here is something i found on the net .

Dr. Farsalinos study on diacetyl in e-liquid



Just so the history of diacetyl claims/testing for the major manufacturers is all in one place. These are the ones I know about:

Flavor West lied. They said they had no diacetyl in any flavors, but a juice vendor in Canada doubted that and sent a sample of FA Butterscotch to a lab. Analysis revealed massive quantities of diacetyl in there. FW has been removing the 'no diacetyl' claim from some flavorings. Meanwhile FW produced a short list of flavors they said had some diacetyl, but the list didn't include butterscotch.

Inawera lied. They told numerous people in personal emails that their products contained no diacetyl, no acetyl propionyl... They very recently produced a short list of flavors they say have some diacetyl: ""coffe, tiramisu, cappuccino, cocopilada knows tabacco, TOBACCO "APPLE", SHISHA FLAVOUR VANILLA TYPE, TABACCO "CAPPUCCINO" It was discussed here, partially in Dutch.

LorAnn lied. They used to claim that none of their products contained any diacetyl. That claim was on their website FAQ for a while. By late 2013 that claim disappeared. Next they said they could provide a list of flavors that contain it, but to my knowledge, they never did. Now if you contact them regarding ingredients they will tell you their products are not intended for inhalation.

Hangsen gives conflicting information to people who ask about their ingredients, depending on whom you ask. I don't what their current claim is.

Capella never denied the diacetyl in their flavorings, so far as I know. Given that they're now making 'version 2' of some flavors popular with vapers, and they claim v2 has no diacetyl, then anything not v2 may well contain it.

Nature's Flavors, when asked about diacetyl in the product line used for vaping, refuse to say; they do tell you their flavorings aren't designed for inhalation. They do have a product line specifically advertised as diacetyl-free, but those are gum arabic flavors that can't be used for vaping. The ones used by vapers do not claim to be diacetyl-free.

The Flavor Apprentice tests their flavorings and publishes results here. (click 'list' on the right of any flavor name) That info is incomplete and subject to frequent changes, but they are the only flavoring manufacturer who does this. The minimum amount they report is "<0.5%."

FlavourArt has a Kitchen Magic and an E-Cig line. Kitchen Magic flavors with diacetyl show an inhalation warning. Their E-Cig flavors (listed on their main website) have no diacetyl or related diketones. They used to list percents of diacetyl for Kitchen flavors that contained it, but now they just have the warning (and are not listed as an E-Cig flavor). Even flavors with less than 0.0012% diacetyl were removed from their E-Cig line. No other manufacturer tests with near this much precision.

One thing to be aware of: In the U.S., any product with <1% diacetyl can legally be labeled "diacetyl-free." I believe the cutoff for acetyl propionyl is also 1%. So a product can legally claim it has none while containing nearly 2%. To put that number in perspective, FlavourArt's Butter flavoring (has inhalation warning, not in their e-cig line) contains 1.5% diacetyl.

The person who conducted the study is actually on the side of e cig users , he is trying to get the e juice companies and flavoring companies to shape up and make safer e juice , if nothing is done you can expect more severe restrictions and freedoms.
 
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