My Charger just exploded.
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OP said the charger was back in the box - I think that's it in the picture. Can't see any damage, as you can with the battery.
And speaking of backward batteries - the INSTRUCTIONS that come with an innokin SVD very clearly TELL you to put the battery in backwards. Fortunately, the SVD has "reversed battery protection" and just ignores you if you are naive enough to read the directions rather than do what you KNOW is probably correct...
And speaking of backward batteries - the INSTRUCTIONS that come with an innokin SVD very clearly TELL you to put the battery in backwards. Fortunately, the SVD has "reversed battery protection" and just ignores you if you are naive enough to read the directions rather than do what you KNOW is probably correct...
I can't give references, but I have read enough times about people having issues with these that I know I am not going to buy one. Never heard of a safety issue with Pila or Xtar. My Xtar had the wall wart fail. I found another transformer and all is well again.
i've been using a nitecore intellicharger for about 3 months everyday w/ panasonics and no problems here. Sometimes i leave the batteries in after they are charging and although the lights remain lit, the batteries are cool to the touch when i remove them. I think the charger may have a feature of not charging them after they are fully charged.
My thinking it was a bad battery.
My thinking it was a bad battery.
yes, I just re-read and saw that before reading your post.
I just don't like to "broad brush" any kind of failure in a product. If an engineering team looked at the way this was presented, they would have a LOT of questions. It's just not as simple as "bad charger" since there are a ton of variables we don't know about.
When I had my wall socket blowout, I had everything tested, piece by peice, to find the failure. There were no shorts in the ground, the wall socket, the usb cable, or the battery/mod. The entire problem was in the wall wart....specifically.
All the products were joyetech by the way........which doesn't mean joyetech products are bad. It means that out of hundreds of thousands of items, this particular one was wacky. Or, it suffered damage during shipping, being in a warehouse bin, whatever. We will never know.
I still trust joyetech products 110%
Sorry to hear about your incident, glad you weren't hurt and the damage seems to have been limited to battery and charger.
I have been using the i4 pro for about 4 months now with no problems. I will be watching the posts to see if this is a widespread problem with the Nitecore charger.
I have been using the i4 pro for about 4 months now with no problems. I will be watching the posts to see if this is a widespread problem with the Nitecore charger.
First, I'm glad you are OK. I'm sure it was a bit of a scare even for an electrician.
I-2 user here too. Been using it with the IMR, AW and Panasonics for about 2 months or so with no issues
I too recommend the I-2 / I-4 chargers to other members based on my experience and the threads and posts I read here on the forum (and in other forums too) so I'll be following with interest.
I-2 user here too. Been using it with the IMR, AW and Panasonics for about 2 months or so with no issues
I too recommend the I-2 / I-4 chargers to other members based on my experience and the threads and posts I read here on the forum (and in other forums too) so I'll be following with interest.
I'm not meaning to be disrespectful or a know-it-all but surely I am not the only one that knows that it doesn't matter what safety features the charger/batteries have or what type of safety enclosure you use or where you operate it...
You never leave a lithium charger charging batteries unattended! You never charge if you are not 100% awake, aware, sober/clean & emotionally/mentally/physically capable of knowing how to use the product(s) safely, appropriately,what can go wrong & how to respond. You also don't use it if you don't have an appropriate fire extinguisher close at hand.
Anyone who is or was in the military will know what a "POL Point" is but for those of you who aren't/don't know, it is a safe designated place outside for handling petroleum, oils & lubricants. Just like you wouldn't (hopefully) refill/use a gas powered appliance indoors, technically we shouldn't be charging lithium batteries indoors. If things go wrong outside, it'll be a bit scary, quite exciting & somewhat beautiful but relatively low danger... If something goes wrong indoors you are screwed & the potential for serious damages, injuries or death is unacceptably high.
It seems like society has become completely calloused & careless when it comes to lithium batteries & the real dangers they pose. These are serious dangerous devices that need to be respected & properly used.
I guess most people just assume they are harmless but they most certainly aren't.
I'm glad you are ok, that no one was hurt, no significant property damage occurred (beyond the
device) & you were able to replace the devices in question. Hopefully this is an isolated incident that no one else has to deal with.
Adam
Btw if you do decide to charge on your stove, make sure its not on or hot from being recent on...
You never leave a lithium charger charging batteries unattended! You never charge if you are not 100% awake, aware, sober/clean & emotionally/mentally/physically capable of knowing how to use the product(s) safely, appropriately,what can go wrong & how to respond. You also don't use it if you don't have an appropriate fire extinguisher close at hand.
Anyone who is or was in the military will know what a "POL Point" is but for those of you who aren't/don't know, it is a safe designated place outside for handling petroleum, oils & lubricants. Just like you wouldn't (hopefully) refill/use a gas powered appliance indoors, technically we shouldn't be charging lithium batteries indoors. If things go wrong outside, it'll be a bit scary, quite exciting & somewhat beautiful but relatively low danger... If something goes wrong indoors you are screwed & the potential for serious damages, injuries or death is unacceptably high.
It seems like society has become completely calloused & careless when it comes to lithium batteries & the real dangers they pose. These are serious dangerous devices that need to be respected & properly used.
I guess most people just assume they are harmless but they most certainly aren't.
I'm glad you are ok, that no one was hurt, no significant property damage occurred (beyond the
device) & you were able to replace the devices in question. Hopefully this is an isolated incident that no one else has to deal with.
Adam
Btw if you do decide to charge on your stove, make sure its not on or hot from being recent on...
I'm not meaning to be disrespectful or a know-it-all but surely I am not the only one that knows that it doesn't matter what safety features the charger/batteries have or what type of safety enclosure you use or where you operate it...
You never leave a lithium charger charging batteries unattended! You never charge if you are not 100% awake, aware, sober/clean & emotionally/mentally/physically capable of knowing how to use the product(s) safely, appropriately,what can go wrong & how to respond. You also don't use it if you don't have an appropriate fire extinguisher close at hand.
Anyone who is or was in the military will know what a "POL Point" is but for those of you who aren't/don't know, it is a safe designated place outside for handling petroleum, oils & lubricants. Just like you wouldn't (hopefully) refill/use a gas powered appliance indoors, technically we shouldn't be charging lithium batteries indoors. If things go wrong outside, it'll be a bit scary, quite exciting & somewhat beautiful but relatively low danger... If something goes wrong indoors you are screwed & the potential for serious damages, injuries or death is unacceptably high.
It seems like society has become completely calloused & careless when it comes to lithium batteries & the real dangers they pose. These are serious dangerous devices that need to be respected & properly used.
I guess most people just assume they are harmless but they most certainly aren't.
I'm glad you are ok, that no one was hurt, no significant property damage occurred (beyond the
device) & you were able to replace the devices in question. Hopefully this is an isolated incident that no one else has to deal with.
Adam
Btw if you do decide to charge on your stove, make sure its not on or hot from being recent on...
You never leave a lithium charger charging batteries unattended! You never charge if you are not 100% awake, aware, sober/clean & emotionally/mentally/physically capable of knowing how to use the product(s) safely, appropriately,what can go wrong & how to respond. You also don't use it if you don't have an appropriate fire extinguisher close at hand.
Anyone who is or was in the military will know what a "POL Point" is but for those of you who aren't/don't know, it is a safe designated place outside for handling petroleum, oils & lubricants. Just like you wouldn't (hopefully) refill/use a gas powered appliance indoors, technically we shouldn't be charging lithium batteries indoors. If things go wrong outside, it'll be a bit scary, quite exciting & somewhat beautiful but relatively low danger... If something goes wrong indoors you are screwed & the potential for serious damages, injuries or death is unacceptably high.
It seems like society has become completely calloused & careless when it comes to lithium batteries & the real dangers they pose. These are serious dangerous devices that need to be respected & properly used.
I guess most people just assume they are harmless but they most certainly aren't.
I'm glad you are ok, that no one was hurt, no significant property damage occurred (beyond the
device) & you were able to replace the devices in question. Hopefully this is an isolated incident that no one else has to deal with.
Adam
Btw if you do decide to charge on your stove, make sure its not on or hot from being recent on...
No. It's a NiteFireCore charger. Melt downs and exploding - it's what they do.
Adding this post to the running list of Nitecore charger failures reported on ECF. Why are people even bothering with NiteFireCore at this point? Geezus - blow the extra 3 bucks on an Xtar that doesn't have a track history or overheats and explosions.
The majority of experience that people have with batteries is with cellphones. I've never yet seen any cellphone manufacturer recommend charging outdoors only.
Most people have never seen a battery vent (and probably never will) We become complacent, immune to the dangers, we drop cellphones in water and try to use them straight away, put them on the charger, drop them, damage them and generally have no respect for them.
So I agree with you. I like the fact that people talk about battery safety a lot on these forums. I have learnt a great deal about batteries and the safe charging / cycling of them from other members here - but I feel we are in the minority.
The public at large have no real interest in batteries or battery safety.
I agree timbit and that's what I do ... well, at least 70% awake, aware, sober/clean & emotionally/mentally/physically capable
We had a thread a little while back asking if people charged batts while sleeping. I was amazed at how many people did this.
And as far as the fire extinguisher goes ... I am pretty sure you and I are the only two people on ECF that have one handy! I attribute this to the nerd in me
. What's your excuse?
And as far as the fire extinguisher goes ... I am pretty sure you and I are the only two people on ECF that have one handy! I attribute this to the nerd in me
No sir. I have one in my kitchen and in my truck. Comes from having a friend that burnt his kitchen down due to throwing water on a grease fire
I bought him one too...
No sir. I have one in my kitchen and in my truck. Comes from having a friend that burnt his kitchen down due to throwing water on a grease fire
I bought him one too...
Wow, hope he didn't get injured! My next door neighbor did that. No injury in her case, but she knows now not to do that. It's amazing how many safety issues people are unaware of in general. I guess if these things happened more often it would raise awareness, but that's not a solution I wish for.
Human nature: it will never happen to me ...
Yes he was fine. Luckily it was a fry pan so just a little grease. He threw water in it, it flamed up, so he grabbed the pan and carried it to the sink - setting fire to the curtains while he was at it. He then proceeded to open the faucet spraying hot globs of burning grease all around the sink area, burning the floor, the counter-tops and some of his hair. His kitchen was a mess, but he got away with just a few light burns.
It was when I was much, much younger - but since then, I've had a fire extinguisher.
His solution was to stop using the fry pan, get granite counter tops and a stone floor... lol.
But you are right, we all assume that it will never happen to us. i just looked this up but there are over 370,000 home fires in the US every year - which is incredible when you think about it. Over 26,000 of them are caused by electrical faults. So it makes sense to be battery aware.
I remember one night leaving a battery overnight to charge. Woke up, it was fully charged, but I'll be frank, it scared the heck out of me because I never do that (even with a cell phone). I'm overtly cautious with things like that because, not really even being an electrician, look at the dangers (yes, I can/am paranoid about things like that).
Either way though, I always keep an eye on my charging batteries and make sure that no funny business is going on. I also have them on a surge protector (just to make sure it doesn't make my wall fault or some such).
But either way, back to the point, I always make sure to get recommendations from people who have been vaping for awhile and/or at least try to buy within my own country (yes, I know, you can get things for cheap from overseas, but meh...if something gets through that's going to be exploding, then I got at least 3 people to blame).
Either way though, I always keep an eye on my charging batteries and make sure that no funny business is going on. I also have them on a surge protector (just to make sure it doesn't make my wall fault or some such).
But either way, back to the point, I always make sure to get recommendations from people who have been vaping for awhile and/or at least try to buy within my own country (yes, I know, you can get things for cheap from overseas, but meh...if something gets through that's going to be exploding, then I got at least 3 people to blame).
I'm happy with my xtar wp2. I got 2 extra spacers so I could charge 2 18350 batteries at the same tIme
Gone are the good ole days of quality control. I've happily owned a Nitecore for well over a year and have had no problems. Cars accelerating without warning, fridges going up in flames....the list goes on and on and is indicative of the world we live in- profits before quality. Simply put I do not trust any electrical item these days and I would never put my family at risk via "charging overnight".
In regards to chargers I have had two Tr-001 chargers fail within the first 3 months. Have also had TrustFire batts fail on me...tossed both the chargers and batts in the garbage.
In regards to chargers I have had two Tr-001 chargers fail within the first 3 months. Have also had TrustFire batts fail on me...tossed both the chargers and batts in the garbage.
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