My ecig caused a huge crapstorm at work.

[Deena]

This is my first post, tho I've been lurking for a while.
I'd just like to see all of us happy vapers be ambassadors. Ya know? Being all in-your-face about your right to vape anywhere could do more harm than good. Your attitude will turn off a lot of people who could possibly benefit from your knowledge. After all, you were probably once a smoker who felt ostracized. You're not doing anybody any good if you feel SUPERIOR to smokers, non-smokers, and NRT users.

Great first post and I agree with you completely. We need to pick and choose our battles wisely.

 

[Gammi]

I just want to say good luck and keep us posted what the decision is. I will keep positive thoughts going your way!!!!

 

[crazybry79]

I am probably one of the biggest advocates of standing up for what you belive in, along with promoting the E-Cig.

BUT, I do need to go with the majority here. Bear with me for a moment.....

Set your goals. What do you want? ie - "I want to vape at my work station." Now go with that. How are you going to do that? Well, first off, one person isn't going to sway a huge corporation or large group of co-workers......

So get a large group! At 'smoke break' time, go outside with the smokers, mingle, and enjoy your nicotine amongst the smokers. Current smokers will ask about what you are using, and may be interested in becoming a user of a persponal vaporizer. Heck, you could even buy one or two to keep on hand to sell to your co-workers.

If you and your "problem" disappear outside for now, the tie-boys upstairs may forget about you and your "problem".......Let it resurface when there are 20-30 of you on your shift (possibly more on other shifts....). Alot more pressure with 20 workers than 1.

Also, in a potentialy anti-smoking situation (ie, your workplace) DON'T call it an 'E-Cig'. Any association with a cigarette of anysort makes it already partially guilty. Call it a personal vaporizer. Call it something other than a ______cigarette, or anything to do with nicotine. If it looks like a duck, sounds like a duck, it must be a duck! Right? Make it sound like an elephant....now they're confused. Use their lack of education on your subjuect to your advantage.

Oh, ya, just to clarify.....wasn't that NON-nic juice you were vaping at the time of question?

 

[gasp]

was there ever a resolution to this one?
i get some really funny looks when i vape in the hallways at school, but the e-cig doesn't violate the school's no tobacco on campus policy so after i've showed the security guys what the pv is, they haven't said anything to me.
good thing i'm in college. lol something like this would go very poorly in high school.

either way, i'm really curious as to how this turned out.

 

[Ajaxus]

I am going to move to another area as soon as possible. But until that can happen, he just brought out the @$$hole in me. There may be no more going to lunch and home 5 minutes early, his radio is suddenly going to annoy me and that may to have to go as well. All depends on what all is said and goes down monday.

I've got to say your entire response to this situation sickens me.

Instead of being mature you go straight for immature as your way of fighting it?

Maybe he had a parent die of emphysema or lung cancer. You've worked with him 2 MONTHS, you barely know who he is or what his personal life is like, yet you are set on making it hell because he didn't want you vaping around him.

Show some respect for crying out loud. Kindly explain your case at the meeting, explain the differences between smoking and vaping, and accept their decision as they make it.

And do yourself a favor, apologize to anyone you may have offended. I may not know you, but I know that attitude and I deal with it on a daily basis with the children I work with.

Just as an FYI, I'm 23. Probably a bit mature for my age, sue me. I just gotta say, your response to this situation was disgusting and really got under my skin. You seem to be one of those types that walks through life thinking everyone owes you something. Guess what? They don't.

Edit: I should mention I didn't read the thread in its entirety, so if this was previously addressed my apologies.

 

[unkuser]

Honestly dude, I don't know why you are pushing the issue. Go outside with it. I still do. Jobs are tough right now, why push loosing a good job.
Company policies are different from the laws and insubordination is just that, regardless of what is right or wrong. I see folks getting canned for a lot less these days.

Go to work, do your job and do what your bosses ask. Even if it blows. You stepped on toes, maybe they won't can you for this but should you make a mistake down the road, it might just be the excuse he's looking for to send you off.

Just my two cents.

I agree. Smoking has been banned basically everywhere. I think the OP pushed the issue too far and why not do it outside? A lot of people are sensitive about smoking and besides you can get fresh air and step out of the work environment.

Even though PG is a component of so many other things. If it looks like cig smoke, and it looks you are smoking a cig then go outside.

 

[jaded]

What I find funny is the old guy is about to retire yet still complaining. He probably wants your next 40 yrs to be as miserable as his 40 yrs were. Obviously he didn't do something right in life if he's been there 40 years and still your partner. He probably complained too much.

 

[beecee]

There are two sides to this that I can understand...Both for the OP and for the guy complaining.

The guy complaining, he has his right to complain, regardless. Vapor is something new to him, he doesn't understand it and it bothers him.
That's fine. It's his workplace to and if something bothers him he can take it up with his boss, HR or who ever he feels he needs to.
It's a shame that some people find the need to complain about things but that's life. You can't change him or his mind.

As for the OP, I too agree that making a big deal out of it is really not the right way to go about it. I wouldn't be surprised if one day someone says something at my work place about me vaping in my cube.
I've been doing so for a couple of months and although my boss says it's OK doesn't mean everyone else should think it's OK. And just because my boss says it's ok, doesn't mean it is or will be in the future.

You're really taking this thing above and beyond what it needs to be.
In reality, this is a gray area. That being said, let's not try and push the matter or it will get more visibility and maybe in the wrong light. Someone said that approaching things with a more stable and positive mind will help in the long run, and I believe that. You can present your "intelligent" argument on why you feel it should be OK to vape at work, but don't argue or feel broken if you are not allowed to do it anymore. After all, it's REALLY not your choice to make.

I was thinking this weekend about how much I use my PV at work and how, just maybe, I am making someone unhappy doing so....I've since cut down DRAMATICALLY and even stealth vape when I do. There is no need to fan the flames....

Just my 2 cents.

 

[ThePuck]

You could blow out a cloud of vapor, ask a non smoker standing next to you if they can smell it and they will say it looks and smells like cigarette smoke. Even though it's all in their mind, you will not win.

That's why I don't waste my energy and just move to where there isn't anybody while taking a few drags off my PV. No use fighting psychological effects of the PV smoke. To a most non smokers, if it looks like smoke, it is. That's why we have all of these bans on the PVs.

 

[keno1964]

Regarding the initial post, a similar 'crap storm' is about to be started at my work. Myself and another employee have both started using e-cigs in the office and so far have only had one person say anything negative about it. Unfortunately, she is the one person that can (and will) make an attempt to effect change on the lack of policy regarding e-cigs.
Basically an office bully with the title to back it up (a bad combination, I know.....), she basically decided that she simply didn't want us to be able to enjoy a relaxing, safe 'smoke' in the office since, well, since she just didn't want us to.

I'm currently waiting for the owner to call myself or the other employee into the office to discuss the issue. (I'll likely be called as I am a team supervisor.)

I've done my homework and can relate all of the pertinent information necessary to defend this practice, I just hope I can afford to go far enough to out-bully the bully.

 

[RIMP]

I think a lot has to do with how you approach vaping at work I told the other 7 people in our office, big office, that I was trying to quit smoking and demo'd my e-cig/pv

Asked them if they had a problem with it, to tell me now and I wouldn't vape in the office That was last July I'm respectful of their rights as well as my own. I don't blow clouds in their faces and am discreet. As most of my liquids don't smell everyone was fine with it. Sometimes someone will say "that smells good, what is it", that's the person closest to my desk.

If they had a problem with it I'd vape in a stairwell or other room. There's always gonna be someone who will gripe, it's just human nature. But I feel we are ambassadors and need to be at the least polite in our dealings with co-workers
RIMP

 

[KellsBell]

I think a lot has to do with how you approach vaping at work I told the other 7 people in our office, big office, that I was trying to quit smoking and demo'd my e-cig/pv

Asked them if they had a problem with it, to tell me now and I wouldn't vape in the office That was last July I'm respectful of their rights as well as my own. I don't blow clouds in their faces and am discreet. As most of my liquids don't smell everyone was fine with it. Sometimes someone will say "that smells good, what is it", that's the person closest to my desk.

If they had a problem with it I'd vape in a stairwell or other room. There's always gonna be someone who will gripe, it's just human nature. But I feel we are ambassadors and need to be at the least polite in our dealings with co-workers
RIMP

Ditto... I totally agree, being that this really is kind of new and already causing a stink (no pun intended) with the FDA, we never know if and when the "axe" is goin to fall. We all need to be GOOD, respectful ambassadors. Iin a case like this (big corp) the unknown of it all can really hurt us in the near future. Respect for others and a little education can go a long way. My husband has already turned every smoker on his small department into vapers, including his supervisor, plus a few in other departments. The PV has just hit my small town thanks to a wild hair I got googleing it after losing my mom to cancer in Nov.

 

[Kent C]

I think a lot has to do with how you approach vaping at work I told the other 7 people in our office, big office, that I was trying to quit smoking and demo'd my e-cig/pv

Asked them if they had a problem with it, to tell me now and I wouldn't vape in the office That was last July I'm respectful of their rights as well as my own. I don't blow clouds in their faces and am discreet. As most of my liquids don't smell everyone was fine with it. Sometimes someone will say "that smells good, what is it", that's the person closest to my desk.

If they had a problem with it I'd vape in a stairwell or other room. There's always gonna be someone who will gripe, it's just human nature. But I feel we are ambassadors and need to be at the least polite in our dealings with co-workers
RIMP

Wise. ..................

 

[Haytoni]

i would print out a list of all the things pg is used in, and then tell them how you will save them money by not taking smoke breaks.

Make it clear that the air is cleaner while you vape really i don't see the big deal about vapping anywhere. It's not like it really bugs anyone, and if they can smell it a little. It's not as bad as a woman's perfume in the air.

or body odor! Yuk

 

[Haytoni]

You know if you hold the vape in, nothing comes out on exhale.

There you go, just like your chewing on a pencil, is there a law against that...........hmmmmmmmm maybe huh!

 

[HzG8rGrl]

I would also like to know the outcome. Hope all is well and you are still vaping.
No law against pencil chewers, yet! But what happens when the wood hits your system and the day is not good and you work your way to the lead?

 

[beecee]

There you go, just like your chewing on a pencil, is there a law against that...........hmmmmmmmm maybe huh!

A guy in my office complained about a guy tapping his pencil on the desk all the time....he can't tap his pencil anymore. Usually the person offended by something wins out. It's easier to make someone stop doing something than it does to make someone stop complaining.

 

[DWTaylor]

I think a lot has to do with how you approach vaping at work I told the other 7 people in our office, big office, that I was trying to quit smoking and demo'd my e-cig/pv

Asked them if they had a problem with it, to tell me now and I wouldn't vape in the office That was last July I'm respectful of their rights as well as my own. I don't blow clouds in their faces and am discreet. As most of my liquids don't smell everyone was fine with it. Sometimes someone will say "that smells good, what is it", that's the person closest to my desk.

If they had a problem with it I'd vape in a stairwell or other room. There's always gonna be someone who will gripe, it's just human nature. But I feel we are ambassadors and need to be at the least polite in our dealings with co-workers
RIMP

That is a good way to go about it in a smaller shop.
But I am thinking I know where this fellow's work is and if I am right we are talking over 100 to 1000 other workers.
if it is only like 20 peeps on shift but if there is more that just might not work.
Just my 2 cents

 

[RIMP]

That is a good way to go about it in a smaller shop.
But I am thinking I know where this fellow's work is and if I am right we are talking over 100 to 1000 other workers.
if it is only like 20 peeps on shift but if there is more that just might not work.
Just my 2 cents

I agree with you there pb, I'd just rather err on the side of caution and stealth vape or vape out of sight then People fear what they don't understand
RIMP

 

[ScubaFrog1]

I am really interested to hear the outcome of this topic. Chevy please keep us updated.