My Public Vaping Ethos.

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MMork

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You completely missed my point. Unless for some reason you include a part of my post with a post you were disputing.

Doing the things the OP suggests puts Vapers in the same group as Smokers, we are not.

No I don't want to vape where the smokers have to go to smoke a cigarette and I won't.

I was actually agreeing with the quoted section of your post, and assuming the second quote from stevegmu was sarcasm, showing both for contrast. Perhaps there was a better way to format that.
 

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Old enough to not give a ...., yet immature enough to feel compelled to point out in big bold letters how someone's wording is the end of the world.

Yes when supposed experienced VAPERS use the word Smoking to describe using a personal vaporizer. Or don't you understand that.

Thanks I like to think I am younger than I am.
 

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You seem to have a real problem with people giving an opinion here :confused:

First, you had a problem with the OP.

Now me.

Yes, impulse control is a natural thing with most adults. Adults who don't have it are usually seeking help, as they are desperate to overcome their addictions and/or lack of ability to self-regulate/practice self control.

Prisons are filled with ones who can't meet that criteria, as well, in more extreme cases.

There is a significant difference between providing an opinion in comparison to judging others in a negative manner stating that they need psychological counseling and comparing them to those incarcerated.

But in this case, I will follow your example: those who arrogantly state that those who don't vape as he does are in need of psychological counseling and similar to those in prison, are condescending asshats who could use significant counseling on how to use "impulse control" when arrogantly judging others.
 

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Wait, what were we talking about again?

I just took a short holiday with a friend like this. We were late for *everything* because she kept having to get her vape together, and we were very limited to where we could go, and how long we could spend there, because of her addiction/dependency or whatever you want to call it. It was really a PITA.

One day we were at a spa/mineral baths, a place where people usually spend several hours or even the whole day in the pools or inside the spa, and she had to keep getting 1/2 dressed to go outside, soaking wet, to vape.

I think if I were like that I would just wear a patch and get on with my life. :facepalm:

Wow. I feel bad for your friend. That goes way past simply addiction/dependency into full blown obsession, in my uneducated, non-medical opinion.

Assuming your friend was a smoker prior to vaping, I'm wondering if she was that obsessed with cigarettes.
 

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I just took a short holiday with a friend like this. We were late for *everything* because she kept having to get her vape together, and we were very limited to where we could go, and how long we could spend there, because of her addiction/dependency or whatever you want to call it. It was really a PITA.
Why on earth did you take this person to such places? Why on earth did they agree to go to such places? Who would call it a holiday when you're surrounded by intolerance and oppression?
 

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Wow. I feel bad for your friend. That goes way past simply addiction/dependency into full blown obsession, in my uneducated, non-medical opinion.

Assuming your friend was a smoker prior to vaping, I'm wondering if she was that obsessed with cigarettes.

I don't know if it's obsessive or not? Her limit seems to be about 20 min to 1/2 hour w/out vaping. Is that obsessive? I really don't know, since when I smoked, I would often have to go many hours w/out smoking since I had to work for a living. (kinda hard to earn a living, keep a job, and/or get promotions if you have to take a break every 25 minutes at work LOL I never had a job where I could take a smoking break every 25 minutes.).

With vaping I found I vaped less than I smoked, or at least, the urges weren't as bad, which is why I thought vaping worked out so well for me.


Why on earth did you take this person to such places? Why on earth did they agree to go to such places? Who would call it a holiday when you're surrounded by intolerance and oppression?

Such places?

You mean normal places that normal people go? Restaurants. Pools.

We also went to a concert, I guess we should add concert halls...they did not allow vaping in there either.

So anyplace you can't vape is a place of intolerance and oppression? That would include an awful lot of places, wouldn't it?
 
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There is a significant difference between providing an opinion in comparison to judging others in a negative manner stating that they need psychological counseling and comparing them to those incarcerated.

But in this case, I will follow your example: those who arrogantly state that those who don't vape as he does are in need of psychological counseling and similar to those in prison, are condescending asshats who could use significant counseling on how to use "impulse control" when arrogantly judging others.

Nobody said anything about vaping as I do. You REALLY need to read better.

I said that adults who cannot practice impulse control are in need of counselling.

That is pretty much an agreed-upon tenet of the society, at least among healthy people. If you can't practice impulse control then you are.........out of control.

Whether it be vaping, eating, drinking alcohol, anger, shopping/spending---or whatever else. There are people who can't control their impulses, and most all of them are either very ill or getting some kind of help. And yes, some are in prisons (lack of ability to control impulses of rage, anger, etc.).

It just occurred to me that perhaps you don't know what impulse control is? And we are having a semantic argument?

Because otherwise, I really don't know of anyone who would argue that lack of impulse control is "a good thing" and "healthy" and something that doesn't require some intervention. :facepalm:

And it's not a personal judgement......it's a generally accepted observation by 100% of the medical world and 99% of the society........that the inability to control impulses is a disorder, and certainly demanding of treatment of some kind.
 
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I don't know if it's obsessive or not? Her limit seems to be about 20 min to 1/2 hour w/out vaping. Is that obsessive? I really don't know, since when I smoked, I would often have to go many hours w/out smoking since I had to work for a living. (kinda hard to earn a living, keep a job, and/or get promotions if you have to take a break every 25 minutes at work LOL I never had a job where I could take a smoking break every 25 minutes.).

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That is kinda Sad when you Think about it.

Most make things like going to a Restaurant, seeing a Movie, or even Shopping at a Wal-Mart Very Hard for Her.
 

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That is kinda Sad when you Think about it.

Most make things like going to a Restaurant, seeing a Movie, or even Shopping at a Wal-Mart Very Hard for Her.
Yeah, I imagine. Since I've started vaping I'm really chain-vaping like an idiot, and yet I can still go for hours without just fine. I guess some people are just more susceptible to it than others.
 

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Yeah, I imagine. Since I've started vaping I'm really chain-vaping like an idiot, and yet I can still go for hours without just fine. I guess some people are just more susceptible to it than others.

I think that e-Cigarettes can be Very Mentally Addictive to some People. And a Mental Addiction can be Just as Hard, if Not Harder, to Break than a Physical Addiction.

Not being able to go 20 or 30 Minutes without Hitting on a PV must be Tough. I feel Sorry for Anyone who has it That Bad.
 
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