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Do those chunks represent flavoring particles or extracted tobacco particles that broke loose from their suspension? IMHO, once all that sediment hits the atomizer a few times, it's going to be like sucking golf balls through a straw.

I guess it must be safe since the customer was told to just fill a tank n' vape it, even if it's not pretty.


No offer to reimburse or recall was made. Personally, I would ask my customer to send back. I'd recall the whole line on the spot if I saw that photo. You really can't release juice that looks like that out to customers. I would have insisted the customer dump it out or send me a sample for lab testing and my further inspection, and I would create a gift certificate coupon on my site for them to use on another order.

Vendor juice is not the same as DIY. you can't send stuff like that out the door.
 

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Apropos of nothing :D

My Borkum Riff Vanilla Cavendish is on the cook already..... and OHHHHH this smells so good, I might have to keep this one to myself;)

Expecting my other specialty 'baccos to arrive tomorrow.
 
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Yep, mine looks exactly like that, floaties and all.


No juice should look like that. None.

But especially not one that costs a dollar per milliliter.

I am upset now.

Where is Nick F? I know he has tried these as well.
 

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Look, I am not trying to call any juice maker out, but DAMN! I just got an NET from Scarf-ace that was bangin', and here this juice vendor is -- one that I've admittedly never ordered from -- calling this okay? Who in here that vapes NETs a little, some, a lot, or 100% of the time has ever seen a mess like that? I think some in here have bought some of this, or at least this vendors so-called "natural" tobacco juice, but in my humble opinion, that is the antithesis of EVERY other vendor that we speak of in here. I dare any of you to find any vendor, whether you like them or not, that sells NETs that would produce a liquid like that and actually be okay with it. I am a bit ...... right now cause all I can gather from that picture -- granted, it's just one picture, but the maker seemed fine with it -- is that more and more people are wanting in on the action i.e. $$, and maybe, just maybe, they should leave it to those that know what they're doing. Hey Scarf, maybe you could start a consulting business cause your juice was not only worth money, you clearly possess some knowledge that pre-existing businesses could benefit from!

Sorry all, I have just never seen anything like that being sold as eliquid!!!

I would like to offer my "knowledge" to all, here on this thread:

Don't send out stuff that looks like a pathology specimen :facepalm:
Respect the people who pay you money (lots, in this case) for a product.

Nobody paid me for the Eau de Montecristo, and I never asked anyone to. (Selling nicotine is illegal where I live, unless it is in the form of patches, gum, or combustible leaves.) I did it as a goofy fun kitchen project, and frankly I was as surprised as all of you were when it turned out not only vapeable, but tasty. I decided to share it with some of the people who have entertained and informed me on this forum.

Had it failed, I would have chalked it up to experience and tossed the batch. I have enough personal honor to not send out something that reflects poorly on me.

Not everyone does, apparently.
 
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Luce, Tez, Hula, Skinnie, TbinAz, Scarf, Eleanor, Bronze, GT, Ax, Mr.Fantasic, new comers and those I've forgotten (sorry) I think we should establish a tobacco union of sorts :D. Tez can write the mission statement (LOL). Seriously though, we all seem to have our specific "expertise" and experience in certain areas and it would be nice to have it all written out for someone who inquires to know specifically who they can turn to. (I am just talkin' jive, I think?!)

I don't really know why I am writing this, but I feel it is taking every ounce of restraint I have from blasting that maker in her own thread! The worst part is when you have an insulated customer base, they may not know that something is wrong, and many of them, even worse, may realize that is NOT how any juice, let alone tobacco, should look or be sold.

Hey, she succeeded in taking one title away from one NET maker...I suppose now, W2V is no longer the leading manufacturer in coil stranglers. :facepalm:
 
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I would like to respectfully request to any vendors reading this thread, that if you would like to call me regarding anything, that you kindly consult

worldtimezone.com

before doing so.

I think this needed to be re-posted. Holla at the lady!

Ladies and gentlemen, I don't know if we have anything to do with this, but I have been noticing "NETs" popping up in some of the strangest places. I would go so far as to saying it is becoming "in." Some of the flavor combinations are also quite odd. I am thinking that vendors are buying "extract" from somewhere and incorporating them into juices. That sounds suspiciously like something that has already been available (hint, hint). I have not known for a juice vendor to take on tobaccos when it was never part of their shtick (at least successfully). I am not casting dispersion on any one vendor, just saying that at the end of the day, while it is nice to sample, I think we all know who is reliable. Extracting tobacco is, contrary to what some may think, not as simple as throwing leaves in pg/vg and calling it a day after a quick coffee filter filtration.

All that being said, I am anxious top find out what is going on with the newbie NET makers.

I was afraid of this. I was partially just hoping that a vendor with a little bit of knowledge would just opt for TA, but my worst fears were something like that swamp juice being passed off as an eliquid, or more specifically, are beloved acronym, NET.

p.s. I think she may have even missed the coffee filter part.
 
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scarf-ace:7939354 said:
Strat, if you have the opportunity, can you photograph them for us?
And Bappo, you as well?

I can take photos this evening, but the point is moot. All four liquids look exactly like the posted photo. What amazes me is that there has already been a positive review posted! I understand we have individual tastes, but geez!
It is disappointing because that vendor has excellent quality juices. :(

Bappo sampled my juices BTW.
 

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No juice should look like that. None.

But especially not one that costs a dollar per milliliter.

I am upset now.

Where is Nick F? I know he has tried these as well.

Here I'm is. ;) I got a 3ml sample about 2 weeks ago, in a tiny amber bottle. I hadn't checked the consistency of the juice to be honest. I just did a quick 4 drops out of the mail, and again one week later. I did notice that it seemed a little goopy. I kinda chalked that up to the juice being 100%VG, which I've never had before, so I wasn't sure what to expect. I wanted to try those Smoktek Resurrector cartos, so I also ordered little samples of 3 of the new tobac's. They'll be here today. I'm glad all this was brought to my attention. Will report back later tonight. BOLO out on the mailman.
 

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Real quick, I want to say how much I appreciate all of us sharing info on this new line without forming a mob to "kill the witch." Most threads turn into a riot over this stuff. I'm supposed to receive my order today. I do have an extra atomizer I can risk so I'll be trying those bad boys out, particles and all.

Maybe if we come up with ideas to fix this we could send them to the vendor as helpful encouragement rather then send hate mail. I don't think the original tobaccos from 2011 had this but I may just not have noticed. Since some of us are concocting diy extractions that make me insanely jealous, they may have some ideas to help.
 

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I'm not trying to say anything incendiary here or to cause panic, but, on moral grounds, I feel that I must say this before anyone tries these new goopy NETs:

The reason I have not tried them yet is (due to the fact that it does not look like any other NET that we know, and looks highly suspicious at that) is the possibility that we could be looking at mold or bacteria. These things love sugars and organic matter, and I won't try this juice until all of the facts are in. I would advise that others show similar restraint.
 
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