Need 11watt drip tank atomizer suggestions.

[Shootist]

shootist it sounds like one of us is doing long division while the other is trying to do long multiplication and we are both just doing trig.

I'm not doing any math and I pretty sure you aren't either.

Ohms law and personal vaporizers depend on 3 things. Volts of the battery and what you supply to the coil, resistance, ohms, of the coil and the wattage, power, derived by using ohms law.

If I have a 2 ohm coil in my atomizer and I supply 3.6 volts to that atomizer coil head I get 6.48 watts, 3.6v Squared = 12.96 divided by the resistance of the coil, 2 ohms, = 6.48 watts.

If I use that same voltage and lower the resistance of the coil to 1.4 ohms then I get 3.6Sq = 12.96 divided by 1.4 = 9.25 watts.

If I increase the voltage to say 4.5 volts then we get this. 4.5V Sq = 20.25 / 1.4 = 14.46 watts.

But say I want that 9.25 watts with a coil resistance of 2.2 ohms. I would then need to supply a high voltage than that 3.6 volts because the resistance is higher.

9.25W X 2.2R = 20.35 SqRt = 4.5 volts.

So you see we can supply the same volts and get different watts depending on the resistance of the coil or we can change the coil resistance and keep the same watts by changing the volts supplied to the coil.

Any modern atomizer can use many different coil resistances. On ones you wrap your own coils for you determine what the resistance of the coil by the wire gauge you use, the size of the spindle/mandrel the coils is wrapped on and the number of wraps.
On pre manufactured coils you can buy several different resistances depending on what the manufacturer offers.

 

[nelska]

Thanks ocelot for not giving up on my incompetence. lol. So wattage mode controls the warmth of the vape at any given resistance?

 

[edyle]

and I have a question about my 2.0 ohms duel coil atomizer. that means its made up of two 4 ohms coils right?

Yes. A 2 ohm dual coil is actually 2 4 ohm coils.

 

[Shootist]

For some reason volts just taste like .... to me compared to watts.

Well there is where you are totally wrong again.

They, volts and watts, are the Exact Same Thing.

With any give coil resistance if you raise or lower the volts the watts go up or down. If you raise or lower the watts the volts go up or down.

You can't raise or lower one without raising or lowering the other.

 

[edyle]

So there's ohms law and then there's watts? lol. watts/ohms law, for example?

Ohm's Law: V=IR

But we don't usually look at "I" which is current.
We look at Power P=VI

P = (V x V)/R
watts=volts x volts / ohms

 

[nelska]

Well there is where you are totally wrong again.

They, volts and watts, are the Exact Same Thing.

With any give coil resistance if you raise or lower the volts the watts go up or down. If you raise or lower the watts the volts go up or down.

You can't raise or lower one without raising or lowering the other.

Right, that's where I'm lost I bought a wattage device because the voltage device was like shocking me when I hit it. Once I started using a wattage device I had no problems electrically speaking and it was as simple as adjusting the vaporizer to a comfortable temperature.

Even when I switch it to volts mode I get that "pull" that you would not using watts. Like the coil is arguing with the device verses it just heating the coil so I can vape. lol

 

[The Ocelot]

Thanks ocelot for not giving up on my incompetence. lol. So wattage mode controls the warmth of the vape at any given resistance?

Lose the "mode" part. Devices that have the option of variable voltage or variable wattage are just different methods to get to the same place.

Simply put, the amount of watts produced is the amount of power produced, in this case it is heat. The heat turns the liquid into vapor. The more watts/power produced, the hotter it is. Do you have a stove?

The voltage interacting with resistance, produces watts (again, I'm leaving out amps on purpose - they aren't important until you get a grasp of the first part).

Watts aren't illustrated above, but it would be the amount of air coming out of the straw after it's squeezed and the amount of water at the bottom of the waterfall.

 

[nelska]

Ohm's Law: V=IR

But we don't usually look at "I" which is current.
We look at Power P=VI

P = (V x V)/R
watts=volts x volts / ohms

Right, so in watts mode I don't get that tug that volts mode produces. In volts mode the wattage is literally grounded to my skull. lol.

 

[nelska]

volts = positive and negative.
watts = positive negative and ground.

That's as simple as I can explain it.

 

[Shootist]

Right, that's where I'm lost I bought a wattage device because the voltage device was like shocking me when I hit it. Once I started using a wattage device I had no problems electrically speaking and it was as simple as adjusting the vaporizer to a comfortable temperature.

Even when I switch it to volts mode I get that "pull" that you would not using watts. Like the coil is arguing with the device verses it just heating the coil so I can vape. lol

Again that is completely wrong. Volts and watts do the same thing to the coil. There is NO difference.

You can't have one without the other.

Sorry I have to go now. Best of luck to you. Happy vaping.

 

[Shootist]

volts = positive and negative.
watts = positive negative and ground.

That's as simple as I can explain it.

WHAT????

Oh boy.

 

[nelska]

lmao, lost cause i am.

 

[Topwater Elvis]

If you want a cool vape try a 2.4 - 3 ohm doesn't matter what delivery device.
Start off at 7 watts, if the vape quality isnt to your liking, bump up the watts one notch.
Continue raising the wattage one bump at a time ( allowing time for the wicks / wicking material to re saturate between vapes) until you find what your looking for. If you get a burnt taste turn the watts down.


GoodNews is that you?

 

[nelska]

If you want a cool vape try a 2.4 - 3 ohm doesn't matter what delivery device.
Start off at 7 watts, if the vape quality isnt to your liking, bump up the watts one notch.
Continue raising the wattage one bump at a time ( allowing time for the wicks / wicking material to re saturate between vapes) until you find what your looking for. If you get a burnt taste turn the watts down.

Thank's man, I'll look for a high ohm 3ml tank or something.

 

[nelska]

See, my problem is I'm trying too hard to get big hits from an 11 watt device. I'll talk to the vaporstore guy tomorrow about finding the best way to go about it with it because I cant afford to spend another boatload on another device for a while.

Which means I can prob go with a rba and just not get the most out of it until I upgrade away from the mvp.

 

[nelska]

Thanks guys.

 

[Topwater Elvis]

Why not use a higher ohm replacement head in a delivery device you already have.
Or buy something simple & easy like an evod or prostank replaceable head clearo until you get a better understanding of how stuff workz.

 

[edyle]

Right, that's where I'm lost I bought a wattage device because the voltage device was like shocking me when I hit it. Once I started using a wattage device I had no problems electrically speaking and it was as simple as adjusting the vaporizer to a comfortable temperature.

Even when I switch it to volts mode I get that "pull" that you would not using watts. Like the coil is arguing with the device verses it just heating the coil so I can vape. lol

Shouldn't make that kind of different.

With volts mode you set the volts yourself

With watts mode, you set what wattage you want, and the mod checks the ohms and calculates what voltage to use.

 

[nelska]

Well, thanks for helping me out.

 

[Topwater Elvis]

See, my problem is I'm trying too hard to get big hits from an 11 watt device. I'll talk to the vaporstore guy tomorrow about finding the best way to go about it with it because I cant afford to spend another boatload on another device for a while.

Which means I can prob go with a rba and just not get the most out of it until I upgrade away from the mvp.

You can get "big hits" from a simple 650 mah ego battery & 1.8 ohm carto.
What you have is a very good and capable power device/APV/ mod whatever you want to call it, everyone has to experiment with delivery devices, resistance, pg/vg ratios nic content & flavors to find what works best for them.