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^^ Those are great cartoons!
I haven't had any negative reactions from anyone. At work everyone is a zealot anti-smoking type so I have to hide even my PV from them. My boss knows though, and lets me vape if no one else is around.
I take the bus and while I'm vaping at bus stops, smokers come up to me and start asking about it. So far they've all thought it was great and wanted to know where they could get one too.
Also, I've been to the the ER twice in the past week (sports injuries). The first MD I saw had heard of them but had never seen one and asked for a demonstration. She wanted more info so I gave her the name of this forum. The second MD had never seen or heard of them before. I was vaping away behind the curtain while waiting and he walked in on me. He was fascinated and wanted to know all about it. He thought it was the coolest thing ever, especially when I told him I was completely off analogs. I told him about this forum too.
I don't go out much (at all actually) and the only time I'm around people is at work (anti-smoking zealots) and around athletes (also anti-smokers but surprizingly not zealots). Like I said, can't vape at work due to all the holier-than-thou types, but I do vape around some of the athletes. I always hid my smoking from them, but now that I quit analogs I openly vape, and, admit to being a smoker up until <2 wks ago.......
I haven't had any negative reactions from anyone. At work everyone is a zealot anti-smoking type so I have to hide even my PV from them. My boss knows though, and lets me vape if no one else is around.
I take the bus and while I'm vaping at bus stops, smokers come up to me and start asking about it. So far they've all thought it was great and wanted to know where they could get one too.
Also, I've been to the the ER twice in the past week (sports injuries). The first MD I saw had heard of them but had never seen one and asked for a demonstration. She wanted more info so I gave her the name of this forum. The second MD had never seen or heard of them before. I was vaping away behind the curtain while waiting and he walked in on me. He was fascinated and wanted to know all about it. He thought it was the coolest thing ever, especially when I told him I was completely off analogs. I told him about this forum too.
I don't go out much (at all actually) and the only time I'm around people is at work (anti-smoking zealots) and around athletes (also anti-smokers but surprizingly not zealots). Like I said, can't vape at work due to all the holier-than-thou types, but I do vape around some of the athletes. I always hid my smoking from them, but now that I quit analogs I openly vape, and, admit to being a smoker up until <2 wks ago.......
i was talking to my oldest son about the whole vaper thing, his reaction "i'd rather just quit" and "but you're still an addict" ok. fair enough. my addiction is to nicotine. which i could get in a patch or gum but i would lose the tactile sensation that goes along with my addiction. i honestly think in the long run i would relapse with either gum or patches. i've had 2 boxes of patches for a while now, still unopened. i don't want to quit. i just want a healthier alternative. my work place is completely smoke free btw, so vaping would really keep me outta trouble. 
I have had some odd looks, and a few downright dirty looks, but no stranger has commented on it.
My friend who has lung problems and is a 2 pack a day smoker "but I only smoke lights" type, thinks they are silly looking. I told her, I didn't care, I would use them if they looked like a screwdriver. (not being a member she has NO idea what I meant) She also said, the day you stop using those e-things is the day you pick up a real cigarette! God, I hope not!
The one thing that did peak her interest was the flavors. She tried the banana and was facinated.
My kids think it's great, so do the g'kids. So I guess I am lucky.
I feel for the smoker's, as my hubby and Mom are still smoking. It's hard to be one anymore, what with the limited smoking area's. I hope Hubby gets past the 1/2 cig, 1/2 P.V. thing soon, he has mentioned that cigs just aren't tasting as good anymore..YAY!
I do have to say that I could never have quit cigs if I didn't have this P.V.! Not with people around me smoking.
My friend who has lung problems and is a 2 pack a day smoker "but I only smoke lights" type, thinks they are silly looking. I told her, I didn't care, I would use them if they looked like a screwdriver. (not being a member she has NO idea what I meant) She also said, the day you stop using those e-things is the day you pick up a real cigarette! God, I hope not!
The one thing that did peak her interest was the flavors. She tried the banana and was facinated.
My kids think it's great, so do the g'kids. So I guess I am lucky.
I feel for the smoker's, as my hubby and Mom are still smoking. It's hard to be one anymore, what with the limited smoking area's. I hope Hubby gets past the 1/2 cig, 1/2 P.V. thing soon, he has mentioned that cigs just aren't tasting as good anymore..YAY!
I do have to say that I could never have quit cigs if I didn't have this P.V.! Not with people around me smoking.
I notice analog smokers react one of 2 ways. They either are fasinated by it and want to know all about it, or are untrusting of it and listen but think theres a catch to it.
Through experience Ive learned NEVER offer for someone to hit it but never turn someone down who asks to. I find that if you are all excited about it and try to make someone try it, they may say NO once and its impossible to get them to give it a honest shot again after that.
Cmon once you pull a black 901 with a blue led out and start vaping theres no need to preach. Only to casually answer questions from onlookers. Slide um a business card if their really interested and sell that extra kit (you know we all have one if not 100) in the trunk for a small profit for changing someones life forever.
The worse ive ever heard was from friend whom i poorly educated on e-cigs when i first got mine. I saw him a few weeks after and asked if he thought more about it. I guess he didnt want to hear my "Dude, just trust me, its the S#!t" speech again and declared, "I spend my hard earned money how i like, and i like cigarettes. Dong start with that thing again."
Spending a few months in the shadows on this forum taught me all i needed to know to educate myself and others. Having one in my hand taught me that the knowledge meant nothing if i wasnt wise enough to know when not to educate someone.
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Through experience Ive learned NEVER offer for someone to hit it but never turn someone down who asks to. I find that if you are all excited about it and try to make someone try it, they may say NO once and its impossible to get them to give it a honest shot again after that.
Cmon once you pull a black 901 with a blue led out and start vaping theres no need to preach. Only to casually answer questions from onlookers. Slide um a business card if their really interested and sell that extra kit (you know we all have one if not 100) in the trunk for a small profit for changing someones life forever.
The worse ive ever heard was from friend whom i poorly educated on e-cigs when i first got mine. I saw him a few weeks after and asked if he thought more about it. I guess he didnt want to hear my "Dude, just trust me, its the S#!t" speech again and declared, "I spend my hard earned money how i like, and i like cigarettes. Dong start with that thing again."
Spending a few months in the shadows on this forum taught me all i needed to know to educate myself and others. Having one in my hand taught me that the knowledge meant nothing if i wasnt wise enough to know when not to educate someone.
Rebel
I have near ODed on demoing too! HAHA! I LOVE the prank
I have yet to have received any negative views on my E-Cig. My downstairs neighbor saw me open the package the very day that I got it, and even tried it with me. She also takes a hit off of it every time I get a new flavor
I am certain with my mother coming in this weekend (she will be here damned near a week) that with enough alcohol in her that she will be a ummm rhymes with aunt.... about it. She has a nack for being cruel when it is uncalled for. Its where I learned it from. Bad thing is..... my fiance will learn where I learned it from. He might back off on me with taking shots after this visit. Keep your fingers crossed.
Just one or two words of advice: I used to hate it when my Mom got on a rant, geez she could go on and on...funny, I turned out to be pretty much the same kinda Mom, except I hugged 'em when I was done ranting. Mom wasn't so dumb, I just don't know how she stood it with four of us!
Hope you don't mind elendill, I copied your "taxes" cartoon, too funny. Will show it to my doctor! Did you do these, by chance?? (worried about copyrights)
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Not so long ago, no one cared about smoking. Smoking was just another part of life and no one minded you smoking in their homes. In fact, smokers were more welcome then drinkers as we were less likely to urinate on their fence posts or suddenly decided we had a secret or needed a hug.
Then, in the USA, our wonderful surgeon general came out with a report that smoking was bad for you. Granted the data was bad and the research was faulty but there it was and smoking became a little less popular. Smokers could still go out to a bar, see a movie, fly on a plane, or visit friends without being ostracized.
That was fine until the anorexic Nancy Regan came on the scene and decided that every first lady needed a cause. Even though the woman likely had never been in a research facility, and probably had never so much as read any of the reports, she picked smoking as her pet project. Forgetting that we had cancer long before we had smoking, and ignoring that the air over her wonderful D.C. home was 13 times as toxic as a pack of cigarettes she began to campaign.
People adopted her little cause because 1 It gave them a way to fill up their pointless and empty lives with the abuse of someone else. And 2 It made it OK to be prejudiced against a group of people. It made it socially acceptable to ban a group of people from public places, to verbally attack them in public, to speak ill of them even in church, and most importantly of all it made these sad and empty people feel morally superior to someone.
It was passé to hate a religion of color of skin, but oh boy could you lay all your ugliness on smokers.
Since then smoker have dealt with every kind of vile behavior available. The last thing they want is for us, the ex smoker (traitors) to start preaching about how we can bring them over to the other side and make them one of the happy, sunshiny people that have been annoying and belittling them for years. If you try to push the PV on them youll just piss most of them off, I promise.
If people ask me about my PV, I tell them about it. IF the ask where to get one, I tell them. When they ask why I switched I usually tell them its considerably cheaper and works about as well. That and Im afraid of whatever it is they are planning on putting in the fire safe smokes. I tell them Id love to see how the government reacts when they get what they say they want and we all quit smoking and they stop getting billions in tax money.
However the smoking area is the one place where they are supposed to be able to go and not be messed with or eaten by loons. They deserve their peace in this place. IF they dont ask, I leave them alone.
Then, in the USA, our wonderful surgeon general came out with a report that smoking was bad for you. Granted the data was bad and the research was faulty but there it was and smoking became a little less popular. Smokers could still go out to a bar, see a movie, fly on a plane, or visit friends without being ostracized.
That was fine until the anorexic Nancy Regan came on the scene and decided that every first lady needed a cause. Even though the woman likely had never been in a research facility, and probably had never so much as read any of the reports, she picked smoking as her pet project. Forgetting that we had cancer long before we had smoking, and ignoring that the air over her wonderful D.C. home was 13 times as toxic as a pack of cigarettes she began to campaign.
People adopted her little cause because 1 It gave them a way to fill up their pointless and empty lives with the abuse of someone else. And 2 It made it OK to be prejudiced against a group of people. It made it socially acceptable to ban a group of people from public places, to verbally attack them in public, to speak ill of them even in church, and most importantly of all it made these sad and empty people feel morally superior to someone.
It was passé to hate a religion of color of skin, but oh boy could you lay all your ugliness on smokers.
Since then smoker have dealt with every kind of vile behavior available. The last thing they want is for us, the ex smoker (traitors) to start preaching about how we can bring them over to the other side and make them one of the happy, sunshiny people that have been annoying and belittling them for years. If you try to push the PV on them youll just piss most of them off, I promise.
If people ask me about my PV, I tell them about it. IF the ask where to get one, I tell them. When they ask why I switched I usually tell them its considerably cheaper and works about as well. That and Im afraid of whatever it is they are planning on putting in the fire safe smokes. I tell them Id love to see how the government reacts when they get what they say they want and we all quit smoking and they stop getting billions in tax money.
However the smoking area is the one place where they are supposed to be able to go and not be messed with or eaten by loons. They deserve their peace in this place. IF they dont ask, I leave them alone.
I agree with absolutely everything you said. One reason that I still smoke a couple of cigs a day is to avoid becoming an anti-smoker via a religious conversion to e cigs and the evangelism that accompanies it. I choose what I want to do with my life just as I respect others for their choices.
I gave up smoking the day I received my e-cig, but I hope I drop-down-dead if I ever become an 'anti-smoker'. I switched over rather unexpectedly and found that I actually prefer vaping.... as someone said, view it as switching brands: I have just found a brand that I prefer.
Very convincing point!
My son-in-law says I'm still smoking. I say no, I just started vaping.
If he doesn't knock it off I'm gonna dump his chew out in the road. See which end he smokes outta.
I feel sorry for people like you. You remind me of these guys that I see that have these wanna be fast cars, and when they pull up beside mine they think they are all that. Then they get pulled over by the cops because they are ...... who are so wrapped up in themselves they cant see the officer right in front of them. Guys like you could never get a real lady. Only those who's self esteem is so low that even the attention from an earthworm would be better. So just because you shoot, doesnt exactly mean that you score. You might want to check for any souvenirs.
Oh.... and as for whining over the language bit? If you dont like it put your PV between your lips, and suck it up.
People in general always defend their drug of choice and a more often than not they don't use logic or common sense. Some will ridicule and berate you and tell you how 'silly' you look as they stand there with a burning twig thinking they look 'normal'.
I always tell them...
Another day alive is what I can give myself.
And when I'm old maybe one less day without a bed pan.
Nulli
I always tell them...
Another day alive is what I can give myself.
And when I'm old maybe one less day without a bed pan.
Nulli
Here's my comebacks to these comments:
And your spending how much on cigarettes every week?
Nope. 'Cause there's no tobacco. Next?
Not a junkie, just still addicted to nicotine. Yep I have batteries to charge. Ohhh... did you just loose your lighter?
Foggerizer... thats a new one! And clever too!
Not really. See, right here? Im smoking, but Im not smoking. Weird huh?
I just had a party, everyone was receptive of my PV. One person kept saying, "Dude, Im just gonna keep smokin! F those things!" I quickly shot back, "Let me know how high your medical bill is for your cancer treatement!" That shut him up, and a whole bunch of, "ohhh...good call!" rang through the crowd.
My best,
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And your spending how much on cigarettes every week?
Nope. 'Cause there's no tobacco. Next?
Not a junkie, just still addicted to nicotine. Yep I have batteries to charge. Ohhh... did you just loose your lighter?
Foggerizer... thats a new one! And clever too!
Not really. See, right here? Im smoking, but Im not smoking. Weird huh?
I just had a party, everyone was receptive of my PV. One person kept saying, "Dude, Im just gonna keep smokin! F those things!" I quickly shot back, "Let me know how high your medical bill is for your cancer treatement!" That shut him up, and a whole bunch of, "ohhh...good call!" rang through the crowd.
My best,
-VP
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I know I said it once! Maybe not the only one... but I did. Thats what I told my wife to get her to switch to PV's with me!
My best,
-VP
Wow... just goes to show that people gathered under a common cause can still find ways to uselessly antagonize one another. I really don't see the point in the above post, but if it makes you feel better...
Oh, and today, I had an experience with a pregnant woman at work. Now let me just say right here, right now (and no offense ladies), but I hate pregnant women. Yes, I know they're going through hell, and yes, I realize the suffering they go through is necessary for the continuation of the species and all that. However, since I willfully had my ability to reproduce interrupted, I'll be damned if I'lm going to sit and take the wrath of some bipolar blob of hormones about ANYthing I do that they decide is harmful to their precious little uterus-enshrined sexually transmitted disease.
If I seem crabby, well... I am. Today, a pregnant woman at work spent over an hour combing through my company's policies via our intranet until she landed upon an actual statement that said e-cigs fell under the Anti Tobacco Policy. With great glee and gusto, she printed off a hardcopy and triumphantly laid it on my work bench, took a step back, and wore an expression on her face that... well, if I was the type to hit women, I would have knocked the broad upside her brainpan so hard, her baby's daddy would have felt it.
Instead, I calmly looked it over, nodded, and said "I see. Well, in that case, I will no longer use mine in the building." She gave me some tripe about protecting her baby, and I realized then that I couldn't fight back with the the usual responses we give when describing the safety of e-cigs.
I learned that you can never win an argument with an idiot because they're too stupid to realize when they've lost. Factor in raging hormones and mood swings and... yeah.
I hope I'm not misrepresenting myself here. I'm not a mysogynist by any stretch of the imagination. I love women and believe in the equality of the sexes (where practical, of course), but the volitility of pregnancy coupled with this individual's personality type of domineering/controlling/nagging damned near removes her humanity as far as I'm concerned.
Sorry for the rant...
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