I remember when they were released, Dicodes saying that the goal was to produce a really stable mod, that would last a long time, in response to the uncertain regulatory climate at the time hence no USB, USB’s being a point of failure.
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That for me anyway is what I really like about it, I don't have big or small hands really. It is mainly so that it can be hidden in a work shirt pocket, without anything sticking out the top. The 21700 will have to be sometime in the future, not sure when really.
KAS
How often does it charge at 2amp? How fast does it charge over Micro USB? How long on average to charge a dead battery? Close to pulling the trigger on it, but can't find many reviews. Just wanna be 100% happy with it due to the cost.
I can't tell you 'how long' as I've never 'timed it'. I can say it charges at 2amps when using the supplied wall wart but only at 1amp when plugged into a USB source. I did notice when it reaches about 4 volts the charging rate is cut way back until fully charged.
I saw in the few reviews that it cuts it back. Any ideas how much the charging rate is cut back?
My experience is that - to use the 2 Amp feature, you must use the included wall wart (5.5 V - 2 Amp).
This because I don't have, nor I've been able to source - an USB charger to BC 1.2 spec.
Therefore, with micro USB power supply, I have been able to use 1 Amp charge only.
The charge current start at 2 Amp with a discharged (< 3.7 V) battery, and decrease to 0.5 A when voltage reaches 4.2 V, then it starts a very peculiar (quick pulses) battery charge maintenance mode.
The charger totally follows Li-Ion charge protocol (CC / CV) and has very high precision - with a 5 digit (!) voltmeter, the precision seems to be 0.1 %, which is kind of outworldish. Of course with a sample of one - it could just be fortuitous.
In the end, the charger charge the battery and keep it topped to max. It does it way better than other charger I've seen, stays cool all the time, so it should last for a while. Also, it is fully protected against short circuit, as when you install the mod backwards in the charger.
I believe the overall charge performance is slightly diminished by the PTC in series with the battery, inside the mod.
But that protective function is essential, as the charge port would be literally destroyed if the device's positive contact is accidentally shorted to ground.
As it is, in case of a short of the device's charge port, there is a weak but visible spark, and that's all. Safety first.
In few words. It is much more than a standard charger, you buy it because you like it, not because you need it. Just like with the device itself.
This because I don't have, nor I've been able to source - an USB charger to BC 1.2 spec.
Therefore, with micro USB power supply, I have been able to use 1 Amp charge only.
The charge current start at 2 Amp with a discharged (< 3.7 V) battery, and decrease to 0.5 A when voltage reaches 4.2 V, then it starts a very peculiar (quick pulses) battery charge maintenance mode.
The charger totally follows Li-Ion charge protocol (CC / CV) and has very high precision - with a 5 digit (!) voltmeter, the precision seems to be 0.1 %, which is kind of outworldish. Of course with a sample of one - it could just be fortuitous.
In the end, the charger charge the battery and keep it topped to max. It does it way better than other charger I've seen, stays cool all the time, so it should last for a while. Also, it is fully protected against short circuit, as when you install the mod backwards in the charger.
I believe the overall charge performance is slightly diminished by the PTC in series with the battery, inside the mod.
But that protective function is essential, as the charge port would be literally destroyed if the device's positive contact is accidentally shorted to ground.
As it is, in case of a short of the device's charge port, there is a weak but visible spark, and that's all. Safety first.
In few words. It is much more than a standard charger, you buy it because you like it, not because you need it. Just like with the device itself.
So when searched the thread re: the battery charger, I saw the above comment. But in the owner's manual for the charger it states;
"The backlight of the display is dimmed to a lower brightness after 30 seconds. Whenever a mod is inserted or removed the backlight lids up again. After 12 hours of no change the backlight is switched off completely."
But my real question for those using the charger ... do you always leave it plugged in or just power it up when you charge your Dani?
With that 12 hour 'timer' it's highly unlikely (for me) that it would ever shut off and it seems, even on the dimmed level, it's running the display constantly which may lead to it wearing out faster. Or maybe I'm just overthinking it.
Reading back as I was in the boonies last week...
I have my chargers on a surge protector that I turn off after use. No power going through them when not charging.
Anytime I can get reliable in mod charging I will take it.
Why?
Say you charge a battery once a day.
That’s 365 times a Year you are pulling the battery and putting it back. That is a lot of wear on the mod and the battery imo.
And that’s for a low power mtl vaper.
There are people using many more batteries than that every day, especially if they are using single 18650 mods.
With in mod charging, you prep the threads once, stick a new battery in the mod, and don’t pull it for One or Two years, or even longer than that.
I’ve replaced the batteries once in my Radii.
Once.
I’ve had the Two in use now since they came out.
How many Years is that?
The batteries hadn’t died. I just thought, “What the heck, replace the batteries.”
P3’s are a different story.
I go through Two to Three 18350’s per day.
I fully believe that will eventually kill my p3’s, if the board doesn’t die first.
Amortizing the cost of the dicodes charger, over the life of the mods, is cheap.
It’s a no brainer imo.
The trick is to have multiple mods so you are not standing around, hopping from one foot to the other, waiting for a battery to charge.
the only fly in the ointment is affordability.
But, I would submit, if you can afford to buy a couple Dani Box mods, you can afford the charger.
imo
YMMV
Why?
Say you charge a battery once a day.
That’s 365 times a Year you are pulling the battery and putting it back. That is a lot of wear on the mod and the battery imo.
And that’s for a low power mtl vaper.
There are people using many more batteries than that every day, especially if they are using single 18650 mods.
With in mod charging, you prep the threads once, stick a new battery in the mod, and don’t pull it for One or Two years, or even longer than that.
I’ve replaced the batteries once in my Radii.
Once.
I’ve had the Two in use now since they came out.
How many Years is that?
The batteries hadn’t died. I just thought, “What the heck, replace the batteries.”
P3’s are a different story.
I go through Two to Three 18350’s per day.
I fully believe that will eventually kill my p3’s, if the board doesn’t die first.
Amortizing the cost of the dicodes charger, over the life of the mods, is cheap.
It’s a no brainer imo.
The trick is to have multiple mods so you are not standing around, hopping from one foot to the other, waiting for a battery to charge.
the only fly in the ointment is affordability.
But, I would submit, if you can afford to buy a couple Dani Box mods, you can afford the charger.
imo
YMMV
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My advice for changing batteries in regulated mods is to turn them off first.
Those surges of power that occur while fumbling with the battery cap, trying to get the threads to catch, can’t be good for the board/display.
Take a look at your p3 display, during the process, and tell me I’m wrong.
Sometimes the display spazzes out. yikes.
Those surges of power that occur while fumbling with the battery cap, trying to get the threads to catch, can’t be good for the board/display.
Take a look at your p3 display, during the process, and tell me I’m wrong.
Sometimes the display spazzes out. yikes.
I hit +quote, by accident, on my own post, then posted it instead of hitting -quote... you go Agnes.
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I agree kinda on the charger and I want one. I know me and opening and closing doors. It can probably wait a bit but the reliability of the Radius yea I kind of agree about the almost never having to change the batteries.
Anything I use, I can overuse and anything I LOVE I can love... to DEATH.
This charger is MEANT for me and unfortunately..... I will have to give in.
Oh well, it's gonna be cool. I shall pair it with my second NON mini Dani which I love, like a brother. The nice brother, not the one who tortured me as a child.
Anna
Anything I use, I can overuse and anything I LOVE I can love... to DEATH.
This charger is MEANT for me and unfortunately..... I will have to give in.
Oh well, it's gonna be cool. I shall pair it with my second NON mini Dani which I love, like a brother. The nice brother, not the one who tortured me as a child.
Anna
Like all things vape, matters of preference. For me, no chance I want another piece of equipment on my desk.
I actually own a few of those wireless charging pads for my phone, and they're stuck away in a box, in a corner...
("In a van, down by the river!")
I actually own a few of those wireless charging pads for my phone, and they're stuck away in a box, in a corner...
("In a van, down by the river!")
If Dicodes made regular battery chargers, that work as good as these do, I would buy a couple.
KAS
KAS
Like all things vape, matters of preference. For me, no chance I want another piece of equipment on my desk.
I actually own a few of those wireless charging pads for my phone, and they're stuck away in a box, in a corner...
("In a van, down by the river!")
For me, this discourse is occurring in the context of what may, or may not, happen going forward in regards to the availability of the tools needed to continue to vape.
No one would need to worry about stuff like this in the best of all possible worlds..
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...and the one we SHOULD be living in right now. Beyond comprehension, this sad reality.
I can't imagine 18650's and their chargers won't be available, given their plethora of non-vape related uses, but that's obviously no guarantee.
I think I have enough backups stockpiled though, just in case. IF the batteries go bust, well, JUUL will surely own the vaping world, and if I must, I must.
I doubt I'll must though. Time will tell.
Vote 'em out.
@Katdarling just talked me into some schmancy XTAR that supposedly "revitalizes" batteries (or sumpin'), because we did just both fall off turnip trucks. 
It wasn't expensive though, and just added to my collection. Of course, they went immediately into use, because they're new toys!
We ARE vapers!!!
It wasn't expensive though, and just added to my collection. Of course, they went immediately into use, because they're new toys!
We ARE vapers!!!
HEY!!! That's my first truck! Except it didn't have nice wheels and had more blue paint among the surface rust.
But I certainly wouldn't have thrown my Kat and DPLongo posters on the ground. I treasure them.
My first Dicodes 21700 will be here Monday as it left NY today.
Now, if UPS can get the batteries here as well I’ll be set.
Now, if UPS can get the batteries here as well I’ll be set.
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