New studies find carcinogens in vg and pg at high temps, even in tootle puffers

[mikepetro]

Bump

I've been doing some light chemistry research this morning and may have found an issue with the original study. The very low flow of fresh air into the chamber may effect the reaction in a manner not yet identified in this thread. We have talked about cooling it may provide, but we did not include the effect of oxygen concentration for the production of aldehydes.

What I'm finding, the temperature needed to produce aldehydes will instead produce water and co2 if the oxygen concentration is high enough. The coil can be hot enough to produce aldehydes, but if there is oxygen in the atmosphere surrounding the coil you will get water and co2 absent aldehydes.

An Interesting Angle to all this.

Can you post some Exploratory reading?

 

[mikepetro]

 

[Burnie]

@mikepetro Where are the pictures here
Actual temperatures inside a Protank Mini on both VV and VW devices. | E-Cigarette Forum

 

[MikeE3]

Where are the pictures here

If Mike linked to pictures he has hosted on Photobucket ... they're gone! PB just changed their terms of service and won't allow (*) linking/posting pictures hosted on PB to 3rd party websites like forums. 1000's of pictures around the world have gone big red X

(*) well they will allow it if you pay a premium price for an upgraded account

 

[Burnie]

If Mike linked to pictures he has hosted on Photobucket ... they're gone! PB just changed their terms of service and won't allow (*) linking/posting pictures hosted on PB to 3rd party websites like forums. 1000's of pictures around the world have gone big red X

(*) well they will allow it if you pay a premium price for an upgraded account

I was thinking the same thing, but the other blog posts have pictures, this was the only one I looked at that didn't.

 

[mikepetro]

Yep, thats the problem......
They were all on Photobucket.

Debating on what to do moving forward. I can go back and fix the blog posts at the very least.

 

[mikepetro]

I was thinking the same thing, but the other blog posts have pictures, this was the only one I looked at that didn't.

Thats because on some of the blogs I pasted the photos directly instead of linking them. That works to a degree, but ECF starts fussing if the photos are too big.

 

[mikepetro]

If Mike linked to pictures he has hosted on Photobucket ... they're gone! PB just changed their terms of service and won't allow (*) linking/posting pictures hosted on PB to 3rd party websites like forums. 1000's of pictures around the world have gone big red X

(*) well they will allow it if you pay a premium price for an upgraded account

Yeah, it feels like blackmail to me, but I have so many photos posted in so many places.

 

[mikepetro]

As of July 5th, their cheapest plan that allows linking of photos is $400 a year!
This is indeed blackmail, I now have hundreds of broken posts all over this and other forums.

 

[Mowgli]

As of July 5th, their cheapest plan that allows linking of photos is $400 a year!
This is indeed blackmail, I now have hundreds of broken posts all over this and other forums.

..... photobucket <- lol censors it spelled with ph instead of f
download them all and move them to Flickr.

 

[Eskie]

As of July 5th, their cheapest plan that allows linking of photos is $400 a year!
This is indeed blackmail, I now have hundreds of broken posts all over this and other forums.

That's crazy. Try imgur if you want to host your photos externally.

 

[awsum140]

I gave up on PB about a year ago, way too many ads interrupting every task. Flickr offers 10GB, I think, for free and allows posting.

 

[Katdarling]

As of July 5th, their cheapest plan that allows linking of photos is $400 a year!
This is indeed blackmail, I now have hundreds of broken posts all over this and other forums.

Yikes, and

I gave up on PB quite a long time ago as well. Too many interrupts, ads, weird pop-ups, and it was SLOWWWWWW.

 

[mikepetro]

As of July 5th, their cheapest plan that allows linking of photos is $400 a year!
This is indeed blackmail, I now have hundreds of broken posts all over this and other forums.

That's crazy. Try imgur if you want to host your photos externally.

Heck, I am afraid the others may pull the same crap. "Burn me once".....

I just sucked down all my stuff off of PB and will organize it better, then upload to my own privately hosted server. Once I do that I can go back in and fix the Blog posts, but not much I can do about all the old broken regular posts scattered around the forums.

 

[corn flakes]

As of July 5th, their cheapest plan that allows linking of photos is $400 a year!
This is indeed blackmail, I now have hundreds of broken posts all over this and other forums.

I am using Imgur now. Your images are still in photobucket and you can download then if you need to them put the somewhere else.

 

[mikepetro]

827 photos, that means at least a thousand broken links scattered about.

I will be damned if they are going to get $400 a year out of me for what they advertised as a free service. I put up with the slowness and ads because I figured that was the price I paid for "free".

 

[MikeE3]

As of July 5th, their cheapest plan that allows linking of photos is $400 a year!
This is indeed blackmail, I now have hundreds of broken posts all over this and other forums.

Heck, I am afraid the others may pull the same crap. "Burn me once".....

I just sucked down all my stuff off of PB and will organize it better, then upload to my own privately hosted server. Once I do that I can go back in and fix the Blog posts, but not much I can do about all the old broken regular posts scattered around the forums.

Yep it adds insult to injury ... that links are broken for past use of PB when it was OK to post pictures to 3rd party site. They could have done something to control it from "now forward" and left all the "old" images still displaying. Hoping they go bust w/ this change.

 

[MikeE3]

827 photos, that means at least a thousand broken links scattered about.

I will be damned if they are going to get $400 a year out of me for what they advertised as a free service. I put up with the slowness and ads because I figured that was the price I paid for "free".

H3ll, I just paid $30 to go ad free, then they pulled this crap.

 

[Burnie]

my own privately hosted server

Yep I have my own server for any of my pictures or email addresses or websites.

$400 a year

I pay 3 times that for my server per year, but I also have websites and a lot of email addresses, not just picture hosting. It is also a managed server, so if I need any scripts for my sites, they install them and make sure they work properly.

 

[mikepetro]

Yep I have my own server for any of my pictures or email addresses or websites.

I pay 3 times that for my server per year, but I also have websites and a lot of email addresses, not just picture hosting. It is also a managed server, so if I need any scripts for my sites, they install them and make sure they work properly.

I pay about $500 for my hosted domains, but that includes a certificate and static IP. Just going to move my pic hosting there. Its just a little more hassle doing the FTP thing vs the drag-n-drop of PB. Mine isnt managed though, so I have to figure out the scripts for myself.