New to vaping...

[MacTechVpr]

Sure ! Here is my current build, i vape on menthol 75%VG, 15%PG from "Central vape City" with 0mg nic. No one really showed me how to build, i did my own research on the internet and all i use is household tool, i use a 3mm of diameter screwdriver to wrap my coils around, this build was done with 11 wraps i think, i used 26ga kanthal wire with bacon cotton, it shows 27.7 watts but i raised it to 31 watts, ohms should be close to 0.70.

Good start. Nic is not ur issue. Neither ur pg/vg val in all prob. Good you started winding on a metric. Helps evaluation greatly. Seems like healthy cotton. Watch wick sag tho. Your (discontinuous end turns can go hot in operation and overheat wick ends or dry hit when you least expect it. If you aren't successful forming to consistent contact, consider Kanthal and strain winding. Simply doesn't happen with this latter method. Var dev's just avg res/temp and won't nec reflect what's up.

Coil turn-to-turn heating inconsistency is one of the prime causes of a bitter biting vape. I agreed with posters on the menthol and worth trying to back it down/off. Personally I go to straight to unflavored anytime things go sour until the question's answered. If not readily evident, rebuild. Sometimes performance issue are just difficult to observe. It's a natural response to suspect what were vaping and our reaction to it.

Agree with @hat.jr's observation above. If your wind design is underpowered you may end up cooking your juice. That'll sour the vape quick too. A more modest wind will just give you better ramp up if you're good with the temp and output. Strain can help there too.

There's a difference between addiction and habituation. The latter is often spoken of as discipline.

Good luck.

 

[JayFy23]

I just entered your build parameters into the calculator at steam-engine.org. The suggested wattage for your build for a cool vape is 68 watts. A stone cold vape would be around 40 watts and a hot vape would be 120 watts. So, unless I'm missing something, you might want to consider increasing your wattage for a better experience as it seems your settings of 27 to 31 watts are very low.

i say around 0.7 because i can't really tell, it might be 0.6, but at 31 watts i can get enough vape, enough to be visible, i need to do a 3 seconds inhale tho.

 

[JayFy23]

heck even at 20 watts i can see the vapor

 

[ScottP]

heck even at 20 watts i can see the vapor

With a dual coil of 11 wraps each you shouldn't be able to see anything BUT vapor.

 

[JayFy23]

With a dual coil of 11 wraps each you shouldn't be able to see anything BUT vapor.

not really... i see it but its thin, its only in small quantity, it doesn't depend on the wraps but also, gauge and diameter

 

[JayFy23]

nevermind, i added more wick and it does fat cloud lol

 

[ScottP]

not really... i see it but its thin, its only in small quantity, it doesn't depend on the wraps but also, gauge and diameter

Don't forget power (watts). What I was getting at was, as others have said, your power is likely too low for that build if you aren't blowing clouds so big it obstructs your field of view for a few seconds. 11 wraps is a lot of surface area and takes more power BUT all that surface area converting juice to vapor should produce a LOT of it.

Just as an example I run a puny single coil, spaced 26ga 316L coil, 7 wraps at between 20 and 30 watts (TC limited) and can blow clouds that obstruct my field of view, if I don't turn my head during exhale. So with dual coil at about the same resistance with that much surface area you will need more watts but should also be blowing at least double the cloud I am. So if you barely see it or are getting just a little bit, there is a problem.

It does sound like you fixed part of it with more cotton but I still think 30 watts is going to be too low for that build IMHO. As always it's YOUR vape and you should do what you like with it. These are just my opinions on the matter.

 

[MacTechVpr]

Don't forget power (watts). What I was getting at was, as others have said, your power is likely too low for that build if you aren't blowing clouds so big it obstructs your field of view for a few seconds. 11 wraps is a lot of surface area and takes more power BUT all that surface area converting juice to vapor should produce a LOT of it.

Just as an example I run a puny single coil, spaced 26ga 316L coil, 7 wraps at between 20 and 30 watts (TC limited) and can blow clouds that obstruct my field of view, if I don't turn my head during exhale. So with dual coil at about the same resistance with that much surface area you will need more watts but should also be blowing at least double the cloud I am. So if you barely see it or are getting just a little bit, there is a problem.

It does sound like you fixed part of it with more cotton but I still think 30 watts is going to be too low for that build IMHO. As always it's YOUR vape and you should do what you like with it. These are just my opinions on the matter.

Agreed. It's not a 2-dimensional thing. More wire, more vapor. It is about surface are, wire mass and time. You end up throwin down more wire all the time and you're often just wasting power not to mention juice and batt's. The goal really is finding the density of vaporization that suits you (and that the device is capable of). The latter don't always play nice.

Good luck.

 

[JayFy23]

Don't forget power (watts). What I was getting at was, as others have said, your power is likely too low for that build if you aren't blowing clouds so big it obstructs your field of view for a few seconds. 11 wraps is a lot of surface area and takes more power BUT all that surface area converting juice to vapor should produce a LOT of it.

Just as an example I run a puny single coil, spaced 26ga 316L coil, 7 wraps at between 20 and 30 watts (TC limited) and can blow clouds that obstruct my field of view, if I don't turn my head during exhale. So with dual coil at about the same resistance with that much surface area you will need more watts but should also be blowing at least double the cloud I am. So if you barely see it or are getting just a little bit, there is a problem.

It does sound like you fixed part of it with more cotton but I still think 30 watts is going to be too low for that build IMHO. As always it's YOUR vape and you should do what you like with it. These are just my opinions on the matter.

Well not sure about that, i have 2 coils not one, if you put one coil its gonna have a certain amout of resistance and if you put another coil(usually of the same size) its going to have less resistance (Ohms) thats why it doesn't do much clouds at 30 watts because it demands more power to heat up, its not like i am powering up 1 coil but 2, powering 2 coils demands more power than 1 alone so naturally its not gonna produce vapor as much as if i had only 1 coil(if in both case you set for exemple the wattage to 30 watts). If i am wrong in any way, someone please tell me.

 

[ScottP]

...it doesn't do much clouds at 30 watts because it demands more power to heat up...

No, you got it. That is what we were telling you. At 30W that is underpowered BUT if that is what you like/prefer then by all means. We all enjoy vaping in different ways.

 

[JayFy23]

No, you got it. That is what we were telling you. At 30W that is underpowered BUT if that is what you like/prefer then by all means. We all enjoy vaping in different ways.

I am doing this because i've been told to vape at high ohms low power because i was vaping at low ohms high power...

 

[Zutankhamun]

Hi J.
I’m glad you chose to vape as opposed to smoke but...
You know vaping isn’t harmless right???

Seems like a waste of money just to become another 5%er.

Your lungs have begun to hurt and your looking for a way to stop it,
Why not try quitting vaping?

Hope you get the lung issue sorted though. Good luck

 

[JayFy23]

Hi J.
I’m glad you chose to vape as opposed to smoke but...
You know vaping isn’t harmless right???

Seems like a waste of money just to become another 5%er.

Your lungs have begun to hurt and your looking for a way to stop it,
Why not try quitting vaping?

Hope you get the lung issue sorted though. Good luck

Thanks for the concern, but i am not planning to stop, i am pretty sure that my lungs are getting used to it, i will have to see in a month how things goes. I don't think that its a waste of money if to me its entertaining.

 

[Zutankhamun]

Fair point...

Very entertaining to me so I can appreciate that.
However, I smoked heavily for a decade (not that long to many here) and this was the only way I could stop.

It’s a far safer alternative but not complete. As long as you know that

 

[JayFy23]

Fair point...

Very entertaining to me so I can appreciate that.
However, I smoked heavily for a decade (not that long to many here) and this was the only way I could stop.

It’s a far safer alternative but not complete. As long as you know that

Of course i know its not completely safe, but i still think that its worth the risk.

 

[JCinFLA]

I am doing this because i've been told to vape at high ohms low power because i was vaping at low ohms high power...

Just to clarify for those who may not have read from the beginning - It was suggested you vape with higher ohms @ lower wattage than you were (which was 0.43-0.54ohms @ 65W) since your lungs hurt then and you felt like you had asthma. It would hopefully help your lungs gradually get used to inhaling vapor...because you've never smoked even 1 cigarette. You'd jumped right into sub-ohm vaping @ 65W.

Doing the build you did above, it's still 0.7ohms...which is not that much higher than you were building. If you like the 30W (ie. you said earlier that it's better on your lungs), IMO you need to adjust your build some more.