nic is a poison please don't kill a kid
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I saw a discussion about using various bottles and jars to store nic juice in the fridge. Do those folks have a separate shelf to keep the mountain dew bottles with mountain dew in them from getting mixed up with the mountain dew bottles containing their DIY e-juice?
DIYers know all about NIC safety. Sometimes before they buy a liter. Sometimes after.
DIYers know all about NIC safety. Sometimes before they buy a liter. Sometimes after.
Did anyone taunt you on facebook and make you committ suicide? Post nude pictures of you on the internet and call you names? How many members of your baseball team (other than the catcher) wore his or her ball cap on backwards, or sideways? The poor mentally challenged youth of today? The kids are more tech aware, sneaky smart (did your parents know your e-mail password?). Stealing back in the day was candy at the drugstore checkout. Now it's stealing fake cash to buy more weapons for your on-line game. Kids used to get the cast off family car, now they wouldn't be seen dead driving the family car.
We used to hop up an old chevy, now it's 24s on a foreign car, with 1500 watts, and a Nitrous, to drift on youtube.
Mentally challenged? Not a chance.
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I see what you are saying, but...
If even one child is saved, then it is worth it to completely screw millions of adults in the process.
Or at least that is what the fear-mongering bureaucracy would have you believe.
Because that is how they get their money, and keep their jobs...
By scaring the average joe into thinking that only they know how to save us all.
Blah.
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hence the rest of my statement
Taking a small sample of a sentence is usually never a good idea, especially when the whole rest of it is talking about the very thing you disagree with
That and the whole deportation thing............
I don't know about the rest of you, but all I had to do was tell my youngest child not to touch Dad's vaping supplies and that was the end of it. My older kids knew not to touch something that wasn't theirs in the first place. Maybe your children aren't as respectful or intelligent?? But I assume they are, so a quick discussion should do the trick.
I was addressing those parents who take all these obsessive precautions (and consider kids to be mentally challenged). Children always hated it, in my days, now, and in the future. Vaping, nico bottles unless these things wont become illegal, or for some odd reason turn into hype because of some pop star, kids will have no interests in it.
Anyway children should not drink gasoline, nicotine, mercury and a lot of other things and any parent with half sense should keep such substances accordingly. Yet, no reason to get hysterical (I know, it is stupid to write that, there is no power on Earth neither in Heavens to stop overprotective parents to cease be hysterical, they will never realise why the children hate them for that)
electro,
my comment was generic, not specifically directed at you. I have had vapers ask me some of the things we assume would be common knowledge. Those folks are out there. I don't have kids at home now. Just the wife and I but we do have vaping friends that should spend a little more time in the forums learning (not this thread I hope).
Even some that have lost (?) juice bottles, somewhere.
and even the nic juice in an energy drink question.
my comment was generic, not specifically directed at you. I have had vapers ask me some of the things we assume would be common knowledge. Those folks are out there. I don't have kids at home now. Just the wife and I but we do have vaping friends that should spend a little more time in the forums learning (not this thread I hope
).Even some that have lost (?) juice bottles, somewhere.
and even the nic juice in an energy drink question.
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Nicotine related poisoning rates for children <5:
Cigarettes 5400
Chewing Tobacco 782
Unknown Tobacco 631
Snuff 421
Filter Tips (Butts) 124
Cigars 81
Other Types Tobacco 54
Nicotine Pharmaceuticals 677
Source:
2009 Annual Report of the American Association of Poison Control Centers' National Poison Data System (NPDS : Informa Healthcare - Clinical Toxicology - 48(10):979 - Summary
There was one death from a nicotine pharmaceutical. I don't know which product.
Seems to me the government ought to start demanding childproof cigarette packs.
i told you.. personel attacks.. silly comments, anything but accept responsiblity, at least no one mentioned my mother.
Electro,
I will agree with you about overly protective parents. I do not see myself as overly protective as my first child is foster to adopt and there are lots of rules I have to follow such as keeping the meds locked away. I prefer to keep my little ones hands off of stuff that is harmful to her. She is under 2 years of age and her understanding of certain things is still under development. I will admit that she can work an iPhone better than any 30 something person but that does not mean she can understand that the bottle she is drinking from that could or could not look like other bottles she might have been drinking from is safe. I do keep my juice in the original bottles with the label on them and in a place with no other liquids, but that is for her safety and my piece of mind, and the state. This is the same with cleaning products and sharp objects.
I will agree with you about overly protective parents. I do not see myself as overly protective as my first child is foster to adopt and there are lots of rules I have to follow such as keeping the meds locked away. I prefer to keep my little ones hands off of stuff that is harmful to her. She is under 2 years of age and her understanding of certain things is still under development. I will admit that she can work an iPhone better than any 30 something person but that does not mean she can understand that the bottle she is drinking from that could or could not look like other bottles she might have been drinking from is safe. I do keep my juice in the original bottles with the label on them and in a place with no other liquids, but that is for her safety and my piece of mind, and the state. This is the same with cleaning products and sharp objects.
OK, I'll try again...
<sneezing> Buuullsnnnot! <wiping nose on sleeve> Time for you to report to your state medical board for re-certification...
Oh, SNAP! Nicotine is bad for you!
Who knew!!??
"The nicotine present in smoke causes heart disease by:
Decreasing oxygen to the heart.
Increasing blood pressure and heart rate.
Increasing blood clotting.
Damaging to cells that line coronary arteries and other blood vessels".
Smoking and Heart Disease
"Nicotine threatens cardiovascular health by increasing blood pressure and constricting and hardening blood vessels.
Nicotine almost instantly increases blood pressure. Via an important branch of the sympathetic nervous system called the splanchnic nerve, nicotine stimulates the adrenal gland to release epinephrine and norepinephrine, also known as adrenalin and noradrenalin. These hormones have multiple effects on the heart and blood vessels that combine to increase blood pressure.
The nicotine in a single cigarette causes the blood vessels to constrict by stimulating the smooth muscles surrounding them to contract. As the diameter of blood vessels shrinks, the pressure of the blood flowing through them increases. Increased blood pressure in turn strains the walls of the blood vessels. Simultaneously with the blood vessel constriction, nicotine stimulates the heart to beat faster, pumping more blood through the vessels and increasing blood pressure even more.
Constricted blood vessels can lead to peripheral vascular disease, a condition in which partial blockage of the large arteries serving the arms and legs compromises circulation, leading to pain and cell death, and possibly even gangrene.
Over time, together with the carbon monoxide in cigarettes, nicotine damages the inner surface of the blood vessels, the MayoClinic.com notes. The damaged walls attract fatty deposits called plaques that narrow the arteries from the inside. Plaques also rob the arteries of elasticity, making them less able to adapt to changes in the volume of blood flow--either to open to accommodate increased blood pressure, or squeeze in to encourage sluggish blood to move along. Hardened arteries underlie atherosclerosis, a condition that can cause angina or lead to a stroke. As a consequence of atherosclerosis, smokers have an increased risk for blood clots. Blood clots develop when a piece of a plaque breaks loose and travels through the bloodstream until it jams, blocking blood flow at that site. Atherosclerosis also increases the risk for an aortic aneurysm, a dangerous bulge in a weak spot of the main artery of the body".
Effects Of Nicotine On The Vascular System | LIVESTRONG.COM
If only you could vape without ingesting nicotine!
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Wait, what's this? Iffy, say it ain't so!
Iffy
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Watch that blood pressure! Have you considered zero nic?
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Yepper, gotta admit that ol' HST had a bit more diplomacy than I. He called it manure...
Ummm, lets see... I vape 15-18mg and my BP is down 11 points on both sides. No issue there. This sneezing must be from an allergy to some on-line manure.
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