my and bf's 808 kit is only $34.99 im not spending $50-$80 on an ego that me and my bf wont use!
Not many starting with an 808?
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my and bf's 808 kit is only $34.99 im not spending $50-$80 on an ego that me and my bf wont use!
Well, if you read the OP you would see that the OP was interested in the KR8. So I am not derailing the thread one bit. And I am also not arbitrarily being argumentative. I have stated my prefference, and you have come back by insulting my character. And furthermore, You could just as easily overspend buying an eGo. There are several suppliers that sell a KR8 two batt kit for $30-40. Furthermore there are suppliers who are rip off artists selling a one batt eGo under a diff name for $160. Super Torpedo - Totally Vapor USA The bottom line is this: You CAN always change the resistence of the atty/carto. But the only way to change the voltage is to get a different kit. So, IMHO, the KR8 IS better for someone who is interested in TH and simplicity(and cigarette like features). And I have every right to express that to someone, especially if they are SPECIFFICALLY asking about the KR8. I don't go into "Wher can I get an eGo" threads and tell them, "don't buy an eGo". I am going to threads where the OP has made it clear that they are interested in the features available in the SS and the KR8, which are not as present in an eGo.
THEIR sweet spot not YOUR sweet spot. what works for you might not work for others! ok im done with the thread
LOL yea, maybe my question wasn't a very good one since people apparently have quiet varied tastes regarding the model of PV.
your question was a great one! if it wasnt for this post i would have got a e-cig with a 100mah battery. vs the 808 280mah battery! and this is the first time i seen a post go nuts like this lol
There are no bad questions, only bad answers. I just wanted to point out the benefits of the KR8. I like mine, but I prefere my SS. If I was trying to convert you I would go that route. I have nothing against the eGo either. But I have tried LR attys on it and I don't care for them. The KR8 is alot closer to my sweet spot of the SS 3.4v. However, there will always be room in my arsenal for the eGo w/ an eGo mega atty and a cart that holds 2.5ml. In fact, I just bought an eGo USB batt AND a KR8 PT in the same week. They both have their plusses and minuses, as anything in life.
AGAIN you are misleading!
OP wasn't interested in 808, he asked about the difference!
Original Post: "Just curious, it looks like a lot of ppl are starting with the 510 and others vs. the 808... Is there a big reason for that?"
so he gave his opinion on why he likes the 808. idk why this became such a big deal....ok now im done i need to lay down and wait for my mom to get here with her computer so i can order some 808 kits!!
lol. funny how the original question got lost in the shuffle. I think it has something to do with the 510 being around longer and originally used by more people than the KR8. They both have their merits, that's for sure.
Hhm. No...I don't think I did that. In fact, the act of going against the "norm" by questioning it, is expressing interest in the alternative to the "norm".
Misleading - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary
Nope, didn't do that. Saying to someone they cannot get the same ohm from an atty on the KR8 as the 510, is however misleading. Claiming that the lower internal resistence of a larger batt somehow defeats Ohms Law reguarding a voltage increase of 20%, is being misleading. Nuff said... I hope?
Can't argue about English language dictionary definitions: English is language #3 out of 4 on my list and it's not perfect.
Well, when language definition is only lane of defense left for you, considering we are on e-cig forum...
The 808 was my second pv. I like it but since my first pv was the eGo i got spoiled. The vapor production is so much better IMO on the eGo. Also like the long battery life. My 808 PCC has gone dead after only 5-6 weeks of use so I had to order a new charger which will be here soon hopefully. I have a bunch of cartomizers I would like to try!
Lets all keep it respectful in here, if you can't do that then don't post here. If you have already made your point, then don't dwell on it.
If I see another report come out of this thread, someone will be taking a vacation.
If I see another report come out of this thread, someone will be taking a vacation.
sorry... first there were the standards which were/are 3.0Ω...then there were the premiums at 2.5Ω...then the coolcarts at 3.5Ω...
coolcarts are made by boge and are the same as turbos and a couple different other names depending on the site you get them from...
the e2 cartos have been arund about as long as you've been vaping...they're in their third revision and a workable product the company worked with listening to what people around here wanted and available in at least 2 different resistances...
and now they're down to 2.0Ω as low resistance...
problem is/was that any of them lower than 3.0Ω and the burning filler problem became more and more evident..
wrong....standard joye atties are 2.2Ω....the knock offs like slb, etc are 3.5
and remember that the tolerance of ALL atties and cartos are +/- .3Ω
this I'm not arguing at all I started with a 510....tried the KR8 in several configurations and didn't like it....I'm not fan at all....but yes misinformation IS a problem and rampant..like even the statement in this thread that the 510 has been around longer and that's why more people use it....both have been around equally as long
well you can look at the numbers for wattage etc and get kinda an idea of the difference...but really it'll all come down to personal preference, taste, even the juice you'll be using...I've owned both got the KR808 second and couldn't stand it...
ow I save cartos for high voltage exclusively because they're cheaper and more disposeable to burn out and replace
the auto batteries started out being better (they were vacume activated) vs sound activated.....but now some suppliers have moved to sound activated bateries (V4L) so they're just as sensitive on their new batteries...
for me on the manuals the battery feels cheaper and more plasticy and I hate the button...
then you've got the colored cartos and colored batteries...the combinations just look too toylike for me...
juice wise some do better on a hotter atty (tobacco, coffee, menthol) and some better on a cooler atty (fruits and delicate flavors)
(example, I have a tiramisu that's fantastic on the 510 but if I put it into a KR8 turbo carto...well...it kinda tastes like vomitus (you know that taste when you burp and kinda get that acid or vomit taste in your mouth...yeah that)
also the KR8 just doesn't produce enough visible vapor for my liking....and for me that visible vapor on exhale was key for me in quitting...
they are touchy yes...
but the new crop of KR8 auto batteries are just as touchy...
before they were vacume activated (which did present it's own problems like being able to be set off with a magnetic field, or by covering the led "ash" cap or completely killed by dropping them or killed by getting juice into them causing the switch to stick)
now that at least V4L has changed their autos to sound activation they're prone to the same issues as the 510 autos
sorry I meant LV (low voltage), HV (high voltage), and VHV (very high voltage) from cloud9 vaping (they have a subforum here)
but you can get cartos down to 2.0Ω ...fairly easy to find.. litecig has them for example
yeah voltage is kinda a misleading term...it should be wattage.... a LR atty at 3.7V can produce the same wattage as 5V....we SHOULD be talking in terms of wattage rather than voltage...but it started off as talking of V bcause we didn't have the option of different resistances...the only variable to change was the voltage and then we only had 3.7V, 5V, 6V, and 7.4V
it should be noted that all the eGo type batteries..even the ones with a 901 or 808 native connection are the lower 3.2V
and only one warns you about using them on an eGo battery
it's due to more than that but that's included...it eats battery life yes...but it also quickly kills the # of times a battery can be charged as well because they overstress the battery...then again so do standard atties or cartos the LR atties just overstress them that much more significantly...
let's put it ths way a 1.5Ω LR atty at 3.7V has an amp draw of 2.47A (2.13A at 3.2V)....a standard 510 atty (2.2Ω) has an amp draw of 1.68A (1.45A at 3.2V).....a "turbo" carto has an amp draw of 1.06A
comparatively battery wise at best an eGo battery has a .9A max drain rate for the 900mAh version... .65A for the 650mAh version
KR8 has a .38 max drain rate on the XL version...
obviously if an atty is calling for 2.13A and at best you can supply .9A max...the battery is gonna run fult tilt and be overstressed causing it to build up deposits in the battery over time and cost overall capacity and # of charges...
additinally because the battery cant keep up the amp draw has to be adjusted down to the max the battery can give and since the resistance is fixed you get voltage sag (the voltage drops to drop the amp draw).... on some batteries the voltage has to drop so far that it's at or very near the low voltage cut off for the battery....
in all honesty running a LR atty on anything but a high drain 14500, high drain 16340, or a 18650 is a waiting game...you aint going to get it's full capability and you're slowly killing your battery
and additionally the protection circuitry in the eGo type batteries (and 510 for that matter) is kinda crap frankly....so an atty short that causes the resistance to drop quickly below about 1.4Ω tends to fry them...
it's an excellent question...yes people have varied tastes and preferences when it comes to their PV... and it goes a long way to understanding why people make the choices they do...
I know what my needs and wants are and have adjusted my equipment to provide for the most trouble free and satisfying vape for me...other's wants and needs may be different...
Received from Cignot - two manual eGos (1000mah), two USB chargers, two cartomizer (atomizer) cone covers, and a box of five Mega cartomizers today, and I love them! Throat hits are smoother and more consistent than the other batteries I've tried, including the passthroughs, which I'll continue to use when I'm at home. The nicotine tastes stronger in the eGo, so I can add more VG to decrease the nic strength (and save some on liquids). I might change my mind, though, after I break in this first Mega cartomizer.
Throat hits, flavor, and vapor are about the same as my 510 passthroughs, but I think the eGo is a little smoother. I love the look and feel of the eGo. If only I had just ordered what I received today back on September 3rd, I would have saved hundreds of dollars and wouldn't have fiddled around so much with battery recharging, etc.
It took about 3 hours on the USB chargers to finish charging both eGos. It's more hassle filling the Mega eGo cartomizers (have to use a syringe and needle and take out two little black, almost-flat end caps first), so I don't know yet if I'll order more of the Mega eGo cartos. Might just keep using the 510 Boge soft cap cartos that I get from litecigusa for $7.95 for a box of 5. They refill quicker but hold about 1/2 the amount of liquid that the Mega cartos hold.
I think I'm now all set, except waiting for a recent order of 6 more bottles of liquid from VaporRenu. I should have enough liquid to last a couple of months, and I now have batteries that won't need to be recharged when I'm gone from home and not in my car (mainly, playing Keno at the casino for several hours...)
There might be better batteries, but I have no desire to try anything else now.
Throat hits, flavor, and vapor are about the same as my 510 passthroughs, but I think the eGo is a little smoother. I love the look and feel of the eGo. If only I had just ordered what I received today back on September 3rd, I would have saved hundreds of dollars and wouldn't have fiddled around so much with battery recharging, etc.
It took about 3 hours on the USB chargers to finish charging both eGos. It's more hassle filling the Mega eGo cartomizers (have to use a syringe and needle and take out two little black, almost-flat end caps first), so I don't know yet if I'll order more of the Mega eGo cartos. Might just keep using the 510 Boge soft cap cartos that I get from litecigusa for $7.95 for a box of 5. They refill quicker but hold about 1/2 the amount of liquid that the Mega cartos hold.
I think I'm now all set, except waiting for a recent order of 6 more bottles of liquid from VaporRenu. I should have enough liquid to last a couple of months, and I now have batteries that won't need to be recharged when I'm gone from home and not in my car (mainly, playing Keno at the casino for several hours...)
There might be better batteries, but I have no desire to try anything else now.
Are all current KR8s sound activated or just V4L? And if so, when did that change over happen?
I'm not entrely certain about all the others...I just remember the buzz about the v4L changeover (and some very unhappy customers) back about 2 months ago and the confirmation of the transition to sound activated autos by leaford himself
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