Nothing but frustration from this company...

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eulogy

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I'll start off with an apology. I usually am not easily upset or annoyed, and I don't mean to start a flame war here, And although I hate to do this, I only wanted to express my feelings about the customer service that I've received as well as the quality of the products from Puresmoker.com.

My first order was 2 DSE901 starter packs. One of the atomizers and two of the batteries (from the same starter pack) were dead within 7 days. I e-mailed their customer support, and they agreed to ship out replacements. They were very polite, but very slow to ship the replacements (but well within their stated estimated shipping time).

Soon after the 14th day when my warranty expired, two of my batteries were having problems that could potentially ruin an atomizer. The pressure plate was sticking and would stay on even after puffing. They're very strict on their 14 day warranties, so don't expect any help from them after that.

I've read so many great reviews about the True Menthol e-liquid, so I decided to try it. It took almost their entire shipping window to ship. I ordered it on the 14th, and it wasn't shipped out til the 17th. Still within their 72 hour guarantee, but still, very slow compared to a lot of other stores that I've shopped online with.

When I got the e-liquid on the 20th (6 days later), the taste was less than satisfactory. My cart was drying up extremely fast (and yes, I filled it up properly. Cart, filler, atomizer, and batteries works fine with any other e-liquid) and would taste horrible after 2 or 3 puffs. I sent Puresmoker another e-mail, and all they can do is apologize. I understand not being able to exchange consumable items like e-liquid, but that doesn't leave me not feeling like I've been ripped off.

Just don't expect them to do anything they're not required to do by their policies. Puresmoker, while very polite, won't give you the time of day unless it's stated that they will do so on their website. I, personally, expect smaller companies that charge an arm and a leg for shipping to at least go out of their way for you to keep you coming back. Well, I for one, am not.
 
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Lorddrek

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You think your buying a product from Walmart or Costco. Your not. Let me explain what your money is buying. You are buying an untested, unproven, unregulated product from China. You are paying a premium (50-100%) to ensure you don't get ripped off online or lose a shipment at the border. Many vendors offer some sort of warranty (DOA or 14day) so you pay for that too.

If you have a problem being a "pioneer" and just want a "plug and play" setup then wait a few more years. I suspect your hardware problems might come from your learning curve. Also with demand skyrocketing I could see manufacturers skimping on quality control. Both of these are out of PureSmokers hands.

Do more research. Buy a product that fits your style. And be prepared to learn how it works. Become an expert with your model choice. Expect to get some crap. This is what we are all experiencing. So don't feel special.

Yes I'm happy with my 2 M401 kits. Yes it took some learning to get a consistent pleasurable experience out of them. Yes I got stuck with some crap menthol juice from PureSmoker. I call it my hard times juice. You should too.

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eulogy

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I wasn't really complaining about the quality of the e-cigarettes or parts, just their lack of care beyond the 14 day warranty, when they can expect products to go bad soon after. I'd expect it from the big companies who don't care about customers because they have so many, but not from a small business.

The product I was speaking of in the first sentence was the quality of the e-liquid. I don't think it's a difference in taste buds, I have my reasons for believing that. I didn't want to get into that in this thread.

I expected some bumps along the road. This thread isn't about my frustration of e-cigarettes, mostly with the service from PS. I understand they have a business to run, and in order to produce a profit they can't replace defective parts beyond a warranty. I just wanted them to know that it's a double edged sword, as unhappy customers won't be coming back. I wanted anyone thinking about purchasing products through PS to have an idea of my experiences with them, that is all.

Don't get me wrong. I really enjoy my e-cigarette from PS. Just not the time things took to get to me with the hefty "handling" charge, the flavor and overall badness with the e-liquid, and their lack of desire to keep me as a customer.
 

bea58

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Yeah. What Lorddrek said, and more-


Ya know Eulogy, hate to say it, but after doing a search of your postings you sound like a person with a multitude of ongoing e cig related problems.

Glad to see a couple things resolved themselves-

First you didn't care for the MVS menthol juice, now you do.
This battery was bad. Oops, I was wrong, it's fine.

As Lorddrek has pointed out, this is new technology, far from perfect, with a high percentage of user error. Given the influx of new purchasers with a lack of patience for the learning curve, I wonder now how many functioning parts our poor suppliers take back monthly. Or, in the name of not getting trashed on this forum, how many parts they let be returned that are not working properly because the buyer doesn't operate or maintain them properly. Or, how many liquids they let be returned because the new buyer hasn't yet acquired a taste for "whatever".

It seems that you're quick to jump on here and ask questions about things that with a little trial and error and/or research (not to mention an email to the supplier) you could have worked out for yourself. And quicker yet to come and complain when somebody else hasn't solved the problem for you, whether valid or not.

In short Eulogy, you may not want to be seen as pushy and needy (as stated in your postings) but that's how you come off on my screen. And not to speak for Steve (obviously), but were I in his position I might just breathe a sigh of relief at your departure.
 
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D_Struct

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Also, the reason why they "don't care" that much beyond their 14-day warranty has more to do with the fact that they set up their original pricing in order to cover that much time.

If you want to go to a place that has longer warranties, more than likely you're going to be paying more for the product.

Part of the initial purchase includes product, shipping, salary for workers, rental for facilities, and the extra stock that's needed to cover returned items (and tons of other items/services that I didn't list).

If they have to cover everyone's bad parts for a longer period of time, they'll have to charge more.
 
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Mrs. CaSH

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I feel sorry for the suppliers right now and all the customs crap. Do you even know how much money they lose just in SHIPPING alone out the door if their stuff can't make it through customs and gets returned to the mfg? It's THOUSANDS on each huge order! The shipping costs from China are horrendous on large orders.

It's not just shipping costs. Alot of times customs won't send the product back to the manufacturer. They'll just keep it indefinitely, so that's pretty much up to $100k down the tube depending on how big the shipment is. Now you understand why we can't just order enough product to always be in stock??!!
 

LuckySevens4U

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It's not just shipping costs. Alot of times customs won't send the product back to the manufacturer. They'll just keep it indefinitely, so that's pretty much up to $100k down the tube depending on how big the shipment is. Now you understand why we can't just order enough product to always be in stock??!!

Ya, it's pretty sad. I would hate to go through this and feel for all of you. How frustrating!!!! That's crazy if customs doesn't ship it back if it won't go through and very unfair!!
 

tescela

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It's not just shipping costs. Alot of times customs won't send the product back to the manufacturer. They'll just keep it indefinitely, so that's pretty much up to $100k down the tube depending on how big the shipment is. Now you understand why we can't just order enough product to always be in stock??!!
This is simply outrageous. Why aren't more people angry about the way customs and the FDA are abusing their power?!!
 

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