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[FunkyVapes]

Ahoy All,

So I'm back to square one with my Ody. It takes me, on average, 6 coils in the morning in order to get one that barely tastes burnt then by the end of the night it is burnt tasting again. My coils are usually about 2.2 ohms once installed so it's not burnt because of high wattage. I have used 5 different AW IMR 18650s in Rotation, dozens of different jucies from different vendors, various PG/VG ratios, and still it tastes burnt to me. I am using stock Wick and Wire from COV. Tried the Krinkle method which works better than the others on average, but still, no consistent satisfaction...

I have tried loosening the coils in little increments to the point where they barely touch the wick, I have tried them tighter in increments to the point where they are obviously choking it. I've tried 3 pieces of wick, 2 pieces of wick and it just wont work consistently.

SO basically, can you guys please post pictures of your set-ups so I can see where I am going wrong? Something has to be wrong on my end. She doesn't leak too much anymore but I can't get a consistent, satisfying vape out of my Ody to save my life...

Thanks, I look forward to some awesome pictures, plus this will be a cool gallery to showcase everybody's unique setup.

 

[wigglr]

That's why I use the UFS ... I'm inept

 

[MrKrinkle]

Try heat treating your Resistance wire under flame a few times before you make a coil.... cigarette lighter will work fine... you may also want to try a different wick material... you may also need to burn clean your ceramic which could be holding a burnt flavor... hope that helps...

 

[FunkyVapes]

That's why I use the UFS ... I'm inept

Well I had even worse luck with my UFS, so I traded it for an Ody. I have to be doing something wrong if everybody else in the world is vaping happily on their Ody. I really am a GG fanboy but I can't get any of the tanks working consistently and I have tried the AVS (the best so far but not versatile enough) UFS, iAtty and Ody.

Here is a pic of my most recent coil, 2.4 ohms, single wick in channel and double in the cup. Stock wick and wire. It tasted fine when I first filled it, then about five minutes in with the juice control opened right up it tasted burnt again. Also the juice I am using is only a few shades darker than my skin, and I'm pretty pale (the light is just awful in this room). I can assure you the coils are touching the wick, though the picture kind of betrays my testimony. None of the wire coils are touching each other either...






That little steel bowl behind my GGTS is the graveyard of dozens of coils that haven't worked...

Try heat treating your Resistance wire under flame a few times before you make a coil.... cigarette lighter will work fine... you may also want to try a different wick material... you may also need to burn clean your ceramic which could be holding a burnt flavor... hope that helps...

I flame-cured this wick after reading it in another thread and it didn't help. I don't think it is the ceramic because it tastes fine for about 5 minutes, then goes to hell. Thanks for the suggestions!

Bring on some pics.

 

[CaptSteve]

Funky the fact that you're getting burnt taste may well be a juice feed issue. You've explained how you make the coil now what about the juice control? Can you please tell me how you set your juice control when you install a new coil.

 

[FunkyVapes]

Funky the fact that you're getting burnt taste may well be a juice feed issue. You've explained how you make the coil now what about the juice control? Can you please tell me how you set your juice control when you install a new coil.

Thanks Capt, I was waiting for you

Sure thing: In short, just like igetcha69 or Scott does. I get the wick nice and wet, make sure the coil is working (it always does) then I put a dab or two more juice on, put on the mouth-piece, taste it (to make sure it doesn't taste burnt right away as it does about 50% of the time). If all is good, I screw the mouth-piece on. Then I assemble the tank with the AC and JC closed pretty tight. Lube up the top cap O'ring, put it in place and open up the AC. I take about 2 good hits then open the JC 1/4 turn or so. I then Open it in small increments until everything tastes fine. Within 5-10 more hits (depending on whether I use the Krinkle method or not, everything tastes burnt.

I hope that helps, and thanks to all for the help

 

[CaptSteve]

I also suspect something else which I just noticed. What size NR wire are you using??? 34 0r 36 AWG??

 

[FunkyVapes]

The stock stuff from COV for the most part. I have been using some 32 from a Craft Store lately because I've blown through over $40.00 in coil supplies trying to get things just right. The craft store stuff is 32, but other than than, I've been using stock NR wire and the odd time, Silver Wire of an unknown gauge from the guy I purchased it from.

 

[CaptSteve]

Ok that's fine although I recommend to first open it to about 1/2 turn to get initially nice and wet then if necessary bring it back a bit. So that's not the problem. now what wire are you using for NR and specially R? I suspect I know what the problem is.

Thanks Capt, I was waiting for you

Sure thing: In short, just like igetcha69 or Scott does. I get the wick nice and wet, make sure the coil is working (it always does) then I put a dab or two more juice on, put on the mouth-piece, taste it (to make sure it doesn't taste burnt right away as it does about 50% of the time). If all is good, I screw the mouth-piece on. Then I assemble the tank with the AC and JC closed pretty tight. Lube up the top cap O'ring, put it in place and open up the AC. I take about 2 good hits then open the JC 1/4 turn or so. I then Open it in small increments until everything tastes fine. Within 5-10 more hits (depending on whether I use the Krinkle method or not, everything tastes burnt.

I hope that helps, and thanks to all for the help

 

[FunkyVapes]

Ok that's fine although I recommend to first open it to about 1/2 turn to get initially nice and wet then if necessary bring it back a bit. So that's not the problem. now what wire are you using for NR and specially R? I suspect I know what the problem is.

See above We posted at aboot the same time.

 

[CaptSteve]

Ok 32 for the NR what about the resistance wire, what is that?

 

[FunkyVapes]

Just the stock stuff from COV, not too sure to be honest. I would bet 36 as it is quite thin.

 

[CaptSteve]

What I'm getting at here is that I suspect your coils are much lower resistance than what you're measuring. I cannot see how a coil made using Bruce's standard wires with only 3 turns (as your picture) is 2.4ohm. IMPOSSIBLE. To get a 2.4 ohm coil with those wires the resistance section must be at least 3 to 3.2 cm long. That will give you at least 4.5 to 5 turns.
have you checked your meter's internal resistance because just by looking at your picture with my experience I would say that coil is 1.2-1.4ohm

 

[CaptSteve]

When you said that coil in the picture is 2.4ohm, how did you measure it? Please describe.

 

[FunkyVapes]

IR of the Multimeter is .3 ohms. They are usually about 1.9 when they go in, then once I set up the whole GGTS they hit about 2.2. That one actually had 3.75 wraps, it is just a ridiculous angle. I measure the unfinished coil by placing one end on the NR wire just below the braid and run the other one along the uncut R wire to get an approximate measure. Then when it is done, I measure again from the far end of the R wire and the other probe at the NR wire behind the braid. When all is said and done, I put one probe on the GGTS base post and the other on the threads of the Ody.

I have also just installed a new ceramic and a new, 4-wrap coil as per the last two pics. I will let you know what happens with it.

 

[FunkyVapes]

Well, just tried the new ceramic, new juice, Silver NR wire, Krinkle method and everything tastes much better. It is leaking a bit because I rushed the assembly, but something made a difference.

Now, if I was a wiser man I would have changed the variables one-by-one to isolate what was happening but the combo of Silver NR wire, a new ceramic and new juice seems to have made a difference. This juice is mentholated so that might be masking some burnt taste too. Not too sure yet...

 

[CaptSteve]

Ok, it sounds possible, however if you analyse your problem of burnt taste it can only be because of the following:

1. bad juice feed
2. too low resistance for the voltage
3. coils too tightly wound that cut juice flow
4. coil too loosly wound not touching wick at parts

As far as I know no other issue can cause burnt tast

So it has to be one of the above.
For 3.7v a 1.8-2.0 ohm coil should be a fairly good vape for the average person. With the wire you're using that should work out to about 2.5-2.8 cm of resistance section (roughly). You wrap that around the wick using light finger pressure. Should be about 4 turns with the coil wrapped slightly closer than your picture. Meter it once you fill the tank and it's ready to vape. (as you said red pole on threads and black on pole) Start your juice control with it to at least 1/2 turn open and take it from there.

 

[FunkyVapes]

Ok, it sounds possible, however if you analyse your problem of burnt taste it can only be because of the following:

1. bad juice feed
2. too low resistance for the voltage
3. coils too tightly wound that cut juice flow
4. coil too loosly wound not touching wick at parts

As far as I know no other issue can cause burnt tast

So it has to be one of the above.
For 3.7v a 1.8-2.0 ohm coil should be a fairly good vape for the average person. With the wire you're using that should work out to about 2.5-2.8 cm of resistance section (roughly). You wrap that around the wick using light finger pressure. Should be about 4 turns with the coil wrapped slightly closer than your picture. Meter it once you fill the tank and it's ready to vape. (as you said red pole on threads and black on pole) Start your juice control with it to at least 1/2 turn open and take it from there.

Thanks Steve. I get very frustrated, very easily and your systematic troubleshooting approaches always calm me down. Phew...

So, as it stands now, everything is good. Fixed the leak and the flavour is spot-on so far as I can tell. Here is a pic of the coil, pre-fill. The coil unwound when I tightened the NR wire on the nuts unfortunately.



I would feel safe assuming it was the coil... This one is coming through at 2.8 and not producing the vapor I would like though. Still beats before for sure.

 

[CaptSteve]

Funky call me crazy but this too doesn't look like a 2.8. Have you tried making your wraps closer together? I'll tell you what we'll do. Send me your address in a PM and I'll make you a new coil and wick setup and I'll write down the specs (ohms, wires etc) and I'll mail it to you. Check it out to see what it looks like compared to yours and then stick it in your ody and try it and see what you get.

 

[sodapopinski]

This cannot be 2.8... I agree with Steve here.

You say your multimeter's internal resistance is 0.3, so if your meter reads 2.5 that means a 2.2 coil not 2.8. I think you had your math wrong there