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I love Odysseus and this is why I need another base, I have parts for almost 4 Odys.

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Thank you Imeo, means a lot from you. I know you see a lot of great photos of your beautiful creations. I got an update and Vassilis is sending me out another base tomorrow/ today. I told him I wanted to send the defective ones back and he told me to keep them?

What Im going to do is send them to someone I know that also has an Odysseus and also has metal shop machines, so he can play with them. He is going to take a caliper to them to see how they measure and compare it to a good base. If he can he will re-bore them and clean them up. At least I wont feel so bad having them just sit. Such nice stainless steel to just sit in my box or throw out.

Thank you again for your assistance.
 

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Do what ever you like better my dear, no problem at all:)
Thank you Imeo, means a lot from you. I know you see a lot of great photos of your beautiful creations. I got an update and Vassilis is sending me out another base tomorrow/ today. I told him I wanted to send the defective ones back and he told me to keep them?

What Im going to do is send them to someone I know that also has an Odysseus and also has metal shop machines, so he can play with them. He is going to take a caliper to them to see how they measure and compare it to a good base. If he can he will re-bore them and clean them up. At least I wont feel so bad having them just sit. Such nice stainless steel to just sit in my box or throw out.

Thank you again for your assistance.
 

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Well, today I got a package from Vassilis. Either Im crazy, or my fingers and hands are playing tricks on me, but this one is not going to work out either. This is base number 3. I talked to Vassilis and he said he tested it, but I can not get my rebuildable unit to screw down enough so it comes out of the 510 connection. Its closer than the others, but it just doent go in. The threads are rough, I dont know if that is part of the reason.

I got another 510 base that is at least a year or so old, from a fellow GG/ Ody lover and got it in last week and it is so smooth and the rebuildable unit screws in smooth as butter. No having to twist so hard that I cut my fingers on the threads. The channels on the base are also very sharp.

I dont know whats going on, but Im ready to quit trying. Imeo if you can PM me, Id like to send these to YOU. I would like to know your HONEST opinion as to if you feel these are up to your standards of quality. Compared to the 4 bases I have these are so bad.

PM me Imeo or let me know what you think. Im at a loss. If I can just return these and get a refund on my credit card for the one I originally got or if you have an Ody 510 base that is a year or more old, Id gladly take an old scratched up, V2 base as long as the threads are clean and smooth and I dont have to use a vise to be able to force it in or force it off.
 

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anavidfan, sad to hear about your bad luck with the Ody bases. Imeo is away on a few days vacation but he did tell me he is online so I'm sure he'll PM you. Can you post a few close up photos of the base threads and also of the threads of your Ody ceramic housing? Is there a chance that the problem is with you ceramic housing threads?
Some times new threaded parts need to be worked a bit to get them to be smooth, I don't know how hard it is to screw in your Ody housing but try working in in and out a few times
 
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Hello CaptSteve

thank you for the help. If you look at a page back you can see the photos of the bases, minus this new third one. I thought about the rebuildable unit, but all 6 go on fine with or without a wick. Like I said last week I traded an item for an older base and its perfects and smooth. The bottom of the new bases are so unfinished or used looking and rough. I have 4 other bases that are smooth and easy and I can screw in the rebuildable unit with no problem.

It us just perplexing. I wish there was someone I could show these to that is has good rep here on the forum to see them.
 

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I personally tested the third base and it was working very nice my dear ana. Threads where very nice and smooth with no problems.

If you need a refund for all 3 bases, no problem with vasilis and me. But base was tested on all its threads and I didnt see any problem at all
 

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Then I guess its me, because I cant get any of my rebuildable units to screw in past the edge of the 510 connection, while all my other 4 bases allow me to screw them in way past the edge of the connection. I suppose if I was very strong I could but I dont understand why all the older ones are soooo smooth on the threadings, I can run my finger along the threads and they feel silky smooth and on these new ones its really rough. I took some more photos and the finish on the bottom of the new base is so completely different. On the old ones they are shiney and smooth, on the new one it looks unfinished and you can see some of the edges are also badly finished compared to the older ones I have.

The four other bases I have are either 2 years old or the last one I bought was from the pre-order you had about 6 months ago?
I will post the photos later, They are significantly made differently or again, I guess Im crazy, :)
 

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Ana new parts have tighter threads for sure which need to be worked a bit. Obviously your older parts have greater tolerance on their threads and sure go on smoother. If you can't get the housing all the way in so the pin sits flush or slightly lower than the 510 threading can you try removing the o-ring which is on the pin and see how far you can then screw the housing in? This is very weird I certainly haven't encountered something like this before
 

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Dear anavidfan, I think the tolerance between your new bases and the old rebuildables is the problem, as Captsteeve said :(
In your position, I would try patiently (with oil or my liquid) to make the threads smoother.
Idon't know what else you can do. I have 3 Ody's and i change almost every week the rebuildables... never had any problems :(
 

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I have 4 bases that I use daily. I change them out daily, as I use NET tobaccos and need to rinse , soak and dry burn after a tank full. I like to have a base setup and wicked at all times so when I run out of juice I just take it apart and I pop on the new base and rebuldable while the other is soaking and cleaning. I dont like down time :)

Those 4 bases have always been smooth, you can visually see that they are not finished as smoothly as GG items should be. But that is not the issue, I just can NOT screw it down. The last NEW base I got at the last pre-orders for Odysseus came in perfect and smooth, not need to break it in. These 3 are substandard, especially the first one that came in with the dents on it, then the second , also had scratches and looked "used" and also could not screw the unit in.

This 3rd one is a bit better, I can screw it down a bit more, but I cant get it to extend more, the center pin is recessed by about 4 mm. My hands and fingers are just sore. I have tried juice etc. I tried sandpaper on the others and still didnt let me screw them in .

Capt suggested not using the o-ring but wont it leak? or end up wearing down the parts, metal on metal?

Okay, photos again. Is it just me or does anyone see a difference ? I would need pliers to make it fit down and pliers to remove it.
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Ana I don't suggest running it with no o-ring I just suggested trying to screw in the housing with the o-ring removed to see if it goes in further. The issue here is certainly threading and from the pictures of the new base the threading seems ok. Can you carefully examine the threading of your ceramic housing to see if it's good all the way down.
Also examine the threads of the new base to see if there are any imperfections. It's got to be a threading problem for sure
 
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There are some imperfections and I unwrapped the package and tried it without the oring and it does go in. Its also going in off center. Ive tried all of my 6 rebuidable units, with and without the wick.

Ive been trying and trying , used vaseline, oil, my hands just cant do it anymore. My hands are so messed up they are locked up and its hard to even type.

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Yeah I see what you mean about your fingers. If it's going in without the o-ring then it simply isn't the threading, it most likely that the o-ring is too big, it's the wrong o-ring. Can you try a smaller o-ring?

I know you're thinking why does that pin and o-ring fit my other bases. Well it could have slightly less tolerance inside
 
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