I think we've got a simple case of misinterpretation here. No worries, group hug and we'll move on! 
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Minor misunderstanding
I'd like to "pipe" in
My Odysseus got modded not because it didn't work right. It worked perfectly with the stock wick, mine didn't even taste bad, just like new wick taste. I modded mine, because I knew there were other's out there like me who really want to use the nextel in Odysseus.
I freely admit I'm a wick snob, CE2 wick is great!, Nextel 312 (unhardened, but heat cleaned) is the next best, and Nextel 312 fully heat treated is the best... hands down not even a contest. The catch is you have to know someone with a kiln, or have one yourself. I happen to have my own
The characteristics of the nextel changes tremendously once it is heat treated to the manufacturers specifications. It becomes completely inert, and the wicking ability changes as well, it wicks much better, and is much harder to flood than any other wick I have tried so far. Once fired it retains it's shape, doesn't shed, and vapes unbelievably! There are a few GG members out there that have tried some of my heat treated nextel, and I'm sure they would agree (mostly) with my observations.
We all like different things, and one of the purely brilliant things that Imeo has given us with iAtty and Odysseus is the ability for the GG community to become involved and explore (safely) different ideas (our own) and share them with each other. Esentially Imeo, has made all of us a big think tank. GG family becomes a part of the innovation on an individual level. That's pretty special
I'd like to "pipe" in
My Odysseus got modded not because it didn't work right. It worked perfectly with the stock wick, mine didn't even taste bad, just like new wick taste. I modded mine, because I knew there were other's out there like me who really want to use the nextel in Odysseus.
I freely admit I'm a wick snob, CE2 wick is great!, Nextel 312 (unhardened, but heat cleaned) is the next best, and Nextel 312 fully heat treated is the best... hands down not even a contest. The catch is you have to know someone with a kiln, or have one yourself. I happen to have my own
The characteristics of the nextel changes tremendously once it is heat treated to the manufacturers specifications. It becomes completely inert, and the wicking ability changes as well, it wicks much better, and is much harder to flood than any other wick I have tried so far. Once fired it retains it's shape, doesn't shed, and vapes unbelievably! There are a few GG members out there that have tried some of my heat treated nextel, and I'm sure they would agree (mostly) with my observations.
We all like different things, and one of the purely brilliant things that Imeo has given us with iAtty and Odysseus is the ability for the GG community to become involved and explore (safely) different ideas (our own) and share them with each other. Esentially Imeo, has made all of us a big think tank. GG family becomes a part of the innovation on an individual level. That's pretty special
Oh and I really dig Para's woodwork. Especially that wooden cube with the 510 connection and digital readout... I want the skinny on that "Doo-hickey" and pictures. You do excellent joinery my friend (that's a complement )
(that's a complement )
Minor misunderstanding
I'd like to "pipe" in
My Odysseus got modded not because it didn't work right. It worked perfectly with the stock wick, mine didn't even taste bad, just like new wick taste. I modded mine, because I knew there were other's out there like me who really want to use the nextel in Odysseus.
I freely admit I'm a wick snob, CE2 wick is great!, Nextel 312 (unhardened, but heat cleaned) is the next best, and Nextel 312 fully heat treated is the best... hands down not even a contest. The catch is you have to know someone with a kiln, or have one yourself. I happen to have my own
The characteristics of the nextel changes tremendously once it is heat treated to the manufacturers specifications. It becomes completely inert, and the wicking ability changes as well, it wicks much better, and is much harder to flood than any other wick I have tried so far. Once fired it retains it's shape, doesn't shed, and vapes unbelievably! There are a few GG members out there that have tried some of my heat treated nextel, and I'm sure they would agree (mostly) with my observations.
We all like different things, and one of the purely brilliant things that Imeo has given us with iAtty and Odysseus is the ability for the GG community to become involved and explore (safely) different ideas (our own) and share them with each other. Esentially Imeo, has made all of us a big think tank. GG family becomes a part of the innovation on an individual level. That's pretty special
Then I'll blame you, you're the one who spoiled me with the wick and a cup that rocked!!!
But you know what I meant, I can't find anything because the threads get so long so all I get is confused about the best way to use it -- and I know between you, Zor, and Para I have to pay attention but it gets overwhelming for me but you know I'll try........eventually.......
I missed the discussion about possibly scaring away potential users but beong late to a party never has deterred me so anyway.
The GG series is carefully listed as advanced user devices. I understand everyone wanting to have a GG system but some people simply don't have the time nor experience to jump in and use a GG without some serious reading and video watching. What is basic or instinctive to most of the regulars may sound daunting to a newer user. And of course they are welcome. They just need to read all about a subject and not snippets that may lead to misinterpretation.
As to the advanced work done by several of the truly advanced users amongst the average GG user. In many ways, the GG devices are kind of like a car club or any other enthusiast level item.
Some are simply happy that they have learned enough from the gurus to get by but are still proud of their own efforts. Call it stock if you will. Then you have the true innovators that can take that same stock chassis and engine, tweak the engine, give it a custom rear end and take it to a whole new level.
I obviously fall into the proud to be a stock owner and a member of the club. Doesn't mean I don't drool bad enough to need a bibb when I see the way that guys like Para and Rick and all those elevate their gear from stock. For the true GG minded users, seeing their work only makes you want to learn more. I may never be doing the advanced level that most of the gang reaches here with their GG gear but I'm just happy to belong and see what levels these creative minds can take a GG device to.
Anyway, just my 2 cents and a another tip of the hat to Imeo for continuing to create items that are not only spectacular in their own right but inspire the innovative and creative to take it to the max!
The GG series is carefully listed as advanced user devices. I understand everyone wanting to have a GG system but some people simply don't have the time nor experience to jump in and use a GG without some serious reading and video watching. What is basic or instinctive to most of the regulars may sound daunting to a newer user. And of course they are welcome. They just need to read all about a subject and not snippets that may lead to misinterpretation.
As to the advanced work done by several of the truly advanced users amongst the average GG user. In many ways, the GG devices are kind of like a car club or any other enthusiast level item.
Some are simply happy that they have learned enough from the gurus to get by but are still proud of their own efforts. Call it stock if you will. Then you have the true innovators that can take that same stock chassis and engine, tweak the engine, give it a custom rear end and take it to a whole new level.
I obviously fall into the proud to be a stock owner and a member of the club. Doesn't mean I don't drool bad enough to need a bibb when I see the way that guys like Para and Rick and all those elevate their gear from stock. For the true GG minded users, seeing their work only makes you want to learn more. I may never be doing the advanced level that most of the gang reaches here with their GG gear but I'm just happy to belong and see what levels these creative minds can take a GG device to.
Anyway, just my 2 cents and a another tip of the hat to Imeo for continuing to create items that are not only spectacular in their own right but inspire the innovative and creative to take it to the max!
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Happy new year!
This morning I tried to wrap some coils that buffer against dry hits and are able to use the liquid-control without modification of the ceramic - here are my results:
The Old Loop
Fright's buffer
Shakehands
The Well
Have fun during your experiments!
This morning I tried to wrap some coils that buffer against dry hits and are able to use the liquid-control without modification of the ceramic - here are my results:
The Old Loop
Fright's buffer
Shakehands
The Well
Have fun during your experiments!
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Nice, but that's only half a post. How well do each of them work???
Happy new year!
This morning I tried to wrap some coils that buffer against dry hits and are able to use the liquid-control without modification of the ceramic - here are my results:
The Old Loop
View attachment 71023
Fright's buffer
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Shakehands
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The Well
View attachment 71027
Have fun during your experiments!
Happy new year!
This morning I tried to wrap some coils that buffer against dry hits and are able to use the liquid-control without modification of the ceramic - here are my results:
The Old Loop
View attachment 71023
Fright's buffer
View attachment 71024
Shakehands
View attachment 71026
The Well
View attachment 71027
Have fun during your experiments!
And finally another german user also tries to modify the coil like me
einwandfrei ;-)Mannigfaltig i tried coilstyle 1 and 2, whats your current favorite ?
What im really happy with now is the 2xGlass fibre, just try to press two strains of the original one in the cerami, there it would really be nice to have the ceramic modified a little bit but mine are still the ones who came with and modifying actually ceramic that already is broken into 4 pieces
Thanks alot for the Idea with the ceramic modification and all the other wicking ideas.
Greetings and happy new year all of you!
Nice coils, ManniGfaltig! I tried the Fright's buffer yesterday, with 0,2mm Kanthal instead of the nichrome. Lots of vape clouds but the coil heats up a bit slow on the stealth.
Would you mind to share your experiences with the different coils you tried?
Would you mind to share your experiences with the different coils you tried?
Manni, with the iAtty I did a bunch of different wick ideas , the iAtty has little space to work in compared to Odysseus. Here's 2 suggestions to mess around with. The Odysseus is huge compared to the iAtty so these two should be pretty easy to try.
1: Make your wick and coil, leave the wick extra long and loop it over the coil right to left (like tying a shoe) then run it down.
2: Double coil (2 coils), make 2 wick and coils at twice the ohms (example: 6 ohms equals 3 ohms, when doubled) and install them one over the other (on top of each other).
The one thing I notice when experimenting with wick is, the thinner the wick is in the coil the longer it stays clean, and its easier and quicker to dry burn. Hence it tends to last longer with less bulky wick in the coil itself. Unfortunately when it does gunk up the vapor drops off quicker.
I've had single strand thin e2 wick last 4 to 5 days with a dry burn once a day, compared to 2 to 3 days with a double or triple strands of wick in the same coil. The single strand tends to flood easier and takes more effort to get it set right though.
IMO the Odysseus has been made exactly right for the wick provided with it.
Have fun,
Poppa D
1: Make your wick and coil, leave the wick extra long and loop it over the coil right to left (like tying a shoe) then run it down.
2: Double coil (2 coils), make 2 wick and coils at twice the ohms (example: 6 ohms equals 3 ohms, when doubled) and install them one over the other (on top of each other).
The one thing I notice when experimenting with wick is, the thinner the wick is in the coil the longer it stays clean, and its easier and quicker to dry burn. Hence it tends to last longer with less bulky wick in the coil itself. Unfortunately when it does gunk up the vapor drops off quicker.
I've had single strand thin e2 wick last 4 to 5 days with a dry burn once a day, compared to 2 to 3 days with a double or triple strands of wick in the same coil. The single strand tends to flood easier and takes more effort to get it set right though.
IMO the Odysseus has been made exactly right for the wick provided with it.
Have fun,
Poppa D
I don't think it'll fit, a 3 Ohm (0.15mm) coil will nearly take all the usable headroom. I mistankenly made a 3 Ohm coil the other day. If you wind a 2nd coil over the existing it'll probably create multiple short circuits, cutting down the resistance even more. I tried it a couple times with my PhantomV21 and finaly gave up.
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I just made a new coil. Coming back to nichrome. I think I have to re-learn making coils ;-). On the Bullis and Genisis I never liked thin wires, like 0.15 an the sort, and always used 0.2 Kanthal. On the Ody the thin nichrome seems to be the way to go. I now use a double wick (just a small piece of wick on top of the normal one) with 0.15 nichrome with 1.7 Ohms on the Stealth and it vapes like hell
I just made a new coil. Coming back to nichrome. I think I have to re-learn making coils ;-). On the Bullis and Genisis I never liked thin wires, like 0.15 an the sort, and always used 0.2 Kanthal. On the Ody the thin nichrome seems to be the way to go. I now use a double wick (just a small piece of wick on top of the normal one) with 0.15 nichrome with 1.7 Ohms on the Stealth and it vapes like hell
I know that 0.20 or 32 awg Kanthal is recommended for genisis type atties and I had good success with it. Why do you feel that thinner wire is better for the ODY?
Also, does anyone know specifically which R wire came with the ODY, the type and the thickness?
Thanks.
Excellent! I'll give it a try later today... How many wraps of 0.15 wire did you end up doing with the double wick to get 1.7 ohm?
I'd assume it's 36awg nichrome since that's what Bruce has for sale.
EDIT: boy am I slow this morning
EDIT: boy am I slow this morning
I haven't tried either with the Odysseus, since it has the adjustable mouthpiece a simple coil seems adequate for me. If it seems dry, open the flow as much as needed, it seems pretty simple.
The learning curve involved isn't that intense. If it isn't vaping correctly one of the following apply, the flow(mouthpiece) isn't adjusted right, the wick is gunked up, dry burn it or replace it, the batteries are running low, or the liquid is running low.
Often tightening (closing) the liquid control does the trick for me since I tend to open it to much, to soon.
Its a nice short list of items to check, and its vaping again like only the Odysseus can.
The learning curve involved isn't that intense. If it isn't vaping correctly one of the following apply, the flow(mouthpiece) isn't adjusted right, the wick is gunked up, dry burn it or replace it, the batteries are running low, or the liquid is running low.
Often tightening (closing) the liquid control does the trick for me since I tend to open it to much, to soon.
Its a nice short list of items to check, and its vaping again like only the Odysseus can.
Modding the ceramic with a cylinder diamond burr worked perfectly. In order to keep the knurled wheel's threads from cutting the 116 wick, it has to lie far enough into the ceramic that they don't hit it. That size burr cut a deep and smooth half round receptacle; just right for the 1/16" wicking.
.....Served up a 3.3 ohm coil and it's producing massive amounts of vapor....MASSIVE amounts.
Only one thing to say about it.....Winner Winner Chicken Dinner
This is as good as it gets.
Para what size burr did you use?
I've not seen it posted , but is a 1.1 - 1.2 ohm coil ok ?
Made from kanthal 32awg and sterling silver wire, soft condition, 30gauge (0.25mm).
It's vaping nice.
Standard set-up in Odysseus.
Made from kanthal 32awg and sterling silver wire, soft condition, 30gauge (0.25mm).
It's vaping nice.
Standard set-up in Odysseus.
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