Official ProVari Radius Thread

[jwbnyc]

Need at least one [emoji38]

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Well, that sets the price then because everybody needs at least one.

 

[stevegmu]

I made a mod with an eVolv board in America... I don't plan on doing THAT again...

Fool me once, shame on you... fool me twice? Shame on me.

I would have loved to have a ZNA, but with a ProVape chip and board...

 

[Zen~]

Where is the logic in that? Many Lipo packs have cdr far above any 18650, some far above what we would use in vaping period.

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Ever seen a Lipo pack go ballistic? Hang out with the RC modelers and you'll see it eventually... Great fun when it's not in your face when it goes. Bigger capacity = bigger fire or explosion... it's really quite exhilarating

 

[USMCotaku]

And you don't think you'll go through a full charge cycle per day on an 18650 battery? A guy that feels he needs 50 watts just to be happy really can't be thinking the cell will last for days.

Your comment was "a 10 month old battery has closer to 300 charge cycles on it with usb charging, they are charged every day"

A) math is off there.
B) if you knew how a charge cycle worked, then this statement was intentionally miss leading. I took the more favorable road, that you maybe didn't know, and put the info on the page....maybe some don't.

As to safety, there are mods out that test battery condition, and alter max output based on that....so it's still not inconceivable for them to make a safe 50 watt mod.
How many heads will explode when they do?

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[Zen~]

Your comment was "a 10 month old battery has closer to 300 charge cycles on it with usb charging, they are charged every day"

A) math is off there.
B) if you knew how a charge cycle worked, then this statement was intentionally miss leading. I took the more favorable road, that you maybe didn't know, and put the info on the page....maybe some don't.

As to safety, there are mods out that test battery condition, and alter max output based on that....so it's still not inconceivable for them to make a safe 50 watt mod.
How many heads will explode when they do?

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Wow man... you need a hug or something... I think it's fairly certain I know how a charge cycle works... Assuming ya go through a full cycle per day, and there are 30 days in the month, 10 months is 300 cycles. Or is 10x30 different if you have a higher CDR?

 

[Zen~]

With the 40 I can understand, after using the 200, I will now cry, was hoping to see a zen133

Not in 1,000,000 years will I release such a thing.

 

[Mowgli]

Yes, you can run a battery to 50 watts if you throw caution to the wind... I really can't see ProVape doing that... they are justifiably more conservative than that.

For sale from ProVape's website.

 

[Zen~]

Back in the day, we used to quit smoking with under 10 watts... uphill... in the snow.

 

[USMCotaku]

For sale from ProVape's website.

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[Zen~]

For sale from ProVape's website.

Nobody is perfect... I do love how that battery says made in china on it, but when you tale off the wrapper the Panasonic Cell under it says "made in Japan"

 

[jwbnyc]

I know they have sammys on the site.

 

[Mowgli]

Really? Do they carry Sony's? Or LG?

They have the green Samsung R25s

 

[USMCotaku]

Ive built fully autonomous robotics that use much larger lipos and demand much more power than a 200w mod, yes I've seem them burst, but they were also put in situations that really pushed them past their limits.

When it comes to batteries though, overall I am a huge fan of the theory that, the vapor bears the brunt of the responsibility to make sure the cell can handle the being demanded of it, and that it is in good shape.
Like was said 17 pages back, if someone knows the battery will only last a short time at high power, that's their choice, to just swap it out, I know if I push my sx mini at 70w that battery will stop putting out in 2 hours so I bring spares so that I swap it out or if I won't be able to, I use a different build/topper and keep it lower.

Exactly this.
All this fear...about a battery type most keep in their pockets daily without a second thought. Don't push it to its limits, and you are highly unlikely to experience negative results.

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[Zen~]

When it comes to batteries though, overall I am a huge fan of the theory that, the vapor bears the brunt of the responsibility to make sure the cell can handle the being demanded of it, and that it is in good shape.

A judge in California decided on Wednesday that the vaper bears no responsibility whatsoever, the whole burden is on the manufacturer, wholesaler, importer and retailer... awarded her 1.9 million.

A previous ruling put Puresmoker out of business a couple years ago... same decision... ya can't put the responsibility on the consumer to know better. Product safety is the responsibility of those in the design and income stream, NOT the less sophisticated end user.

Consumers have a right to believe the manufacturer and retailer has made decisions that lead to a safe consumer product.

 

[FringeChief68]

For sale from ProVape's website.

I honestly had the Provape website opened up to post this
Well I checked Provape FB and the did say it's not a Lipo and it is over 30 watts.

 

[stevegmu]

Ive built fully autonomous robotics that use much larger lipos and demand much more power than a 200w mod, yes I've seem them burst, but they were also put in situations that really pushed them past their limits.

When it comes to batteries though, overall I am a huge fan of the theory that, the vapor bears the brunt of the responsibility to make sure the cell can handle the being demanded of it, and that it is in good shape.
Like was said 17 pages back, if someone knows the battery will only last a short time at high power, that's their choice, to just swap it out, I know if I push my sx mini at 70w that battery will stop putting out in 2 hours so I bring spares so that I swap it out or if I won't be able to, I use a different build/topper and keep it lower.

What affect do large temperature changes have on lipo packs? Say someone leaves their mod in their car on a cold day while at work, when it is so cold the mod won't fire, but after being in the car with the heat on for 10 minutes warms up enough to fire, then is in the cold car again for 4 hours, only to warm up again? Mods go through this...

 

[Zen~]

Exactly this.
All this fear...about a battery type most keep in their pockets daily without a second thought. Don't push it to its limits, and you are highly unlikely to experience negative results.

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I completely agree... but... why complain when a manufacturer designs products WELL within their limits. People that are asking an 18650 to deliver 50 watts are asking the manufacturer to push the limits. You simply cannot have it both ways.

 

[USMCotaku]

A judge in California decided on Wednesday that the vaper bears no responsibility whatsoever, the whole burden is on the manufacturer, wholesaler, importer and retailer... awarded her 1.9 million.

A previous ruling put Puresmoker out of business a couple years ago... same decision... ya can't put the responsibility on the consumer to know better. Product safety is the responsibility of those in the design and income stream, NOT the less sophisticated end user.

Consumers have a right to believe the manufacturer and retailer has made decisions that lead to a safe consumer product.

If the manufacturer/seller makes/sells the mod and battery together, I would agree with this. If such a judgement is awarded to someone who purchases the device and battery separate (even if from the same site), I would call it gross miss justice, and a clear sign with what is wrong with our over litigious society today.

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[USMCotaku]

I completely agree... but... why complain when a manufacturer designs products WELL within their limits. People that are asking an 18650 to deliver 50 watts are asking the manufacturer to push the limits. You simply cannot have it both ways.

I just don't see 50 watts as pushing the limits of some of the batteries on the market.....and, if this IS a dual battery mod (which I hope it is) then 50 is well under any safety margin.

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[serenity21899]

Many of us customers are equally as cautious. Not being a fan of exploding things (batteries), I don't push my mods to its limits.