I would actually be embarrassed to be seen in or with those vehicles and would certainly never admit to owning them...
Ok All You Original Maker Type People... Knock It Off...!!!
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I would actually be embarrassed to be seen in or with those vehicles and would certainly never admit to owning them...
$250 is impressive to a teenager maybe....and I have stated in several posts that I think its too much for a mod to me.
As a matter of fact, I have yet to spend $250 on a mod.
If that is what you were implying anyways...your post isnt clear. Sorry if I misunderstood.
Steve
I feel ya. Personally i would be the most embarrassed about putting that much into a depreciating asset.
The last thing I spent that much on is earning me a monthly payment in the form of my tenants rent.
Different strokes I suppose.
I dont get the whole e peen thing anyways....bragging about the money you spend isnt a good thing, especially when you dont know the person you are bragging to.
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Edit: Never mind. Your mind is made up and there's no need to argue further.
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Not me. I used to spend that much on cigarettes every month.
I thought of something. I've never had a problem with $200-$500 tobacco pipes. But they're made by hand and the wood is like a diamond, each is unique and the more perfect it is the rarer it is so I can see justifying those prices (not that I've owned one other than one I made).
Now you get into the $18,000 pipes that are priced like that mostly because of the maker, I kind of had a problem but they weren't really there to be smoked, they're investment/museum pieces.
The issue with the same prices with mechs is the metal is not rare, they are not hand made, there is nothing special about them. Their quality may be better but not $200 better. I expect what I buy to work. At $20 I may have to add some work to it but it still worked without me fine tuning it.
If one of these "artisan" mod makers wants to start doing some hand engraving on their mods to make each one unique and actually put some hand made work into them then I could justify the prices. But pushing the button on a CNC machine for mass production, no. Short run doesn't justify the price, that's just a stupid business decision.
If the rest of the world's labor costs are such that we have to charge $200 for what China can do for $8 we've all got a problem (except China). It doesn't matter about the substandard materials (and that's what gets me about some of China's knock off stuff), they could switch to good materials and still sell the item for $10.
While I know there is a big discrepancy in labor costs I don't think that is the whole of the problem. A lot of it is greed. Everyone seems to think they deserve a million dollar for everything they do no matter what it is.
Talk about entitlement.
Now you get into the $18,000 pipes that are priced like that mostly because of the maker, I kind of had a problem but they weren't really there to be smoked, they're investment/museum pieces.
The issue with the same prices with mechs is the metal is not rare, they are not hand made, there is nothing special about them. Their quality may be better but not $200 better. I expect what I buy to work. At $20 I may have to add some work to it but it still worked without me fine tuning it.
If one of these "artisan" mod makers wants to start doing some hand engraving on their mods to make each one unique and actually put some hand made work into them then I could justify the prices. But pushing the button on a CNC machine for mass production, no. Short run doesn't justify the price, that's just a stupid business decision.
If the rest of the world's labor costs are such that we have to charge $200 for what China can do for $8 we've all got a problem (except China). It doesn't matter about the substandard materials (and that's what gets me about some of China's knock off stuff), they could switch to good materials and still sell the item for $10.
While I know there is a big discrepancy in labor costs I don't think that is the whole of the problem. A lot of it is greed. Everyone seems to think they deserve a million dollar for everything they do no matter what it is.
Talk about entitlement.
Some mod makers do have unbelievably precise and skilled machining, which PRC could never match. Tatroe Mods, for instance. When I used ProTank 2s, the fix I found for them was a Tatroe cap. Comparing the PRC made cap to the Tatroe cap is a joke. One looks like it is worth 5 cents, the other- adding in its function, worth the $15 it costs. The difference is night and day in material, machining and function...
China Clones are made by the hands of forced child labor for pennies a day. So buying clones is supporting this.
Please quit saying "clone" and "1:1" in the same sentence. It's an oxymoron...Thanks. If you and your budget want to buy "knock off" equipment no problem. You do not have to justify your purchases with the "1:1" misnomer.
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I think its funny that there's people in the world that would choose to judge people based on the price and maker of their e-cig. That's PRICELESS.
It's about judging people who steal and those who support them by buying stolen property.
The only 2 arguments that could be had about your post is that better contacts on a mech will deliver more current and some fuse protection is a good idea in case someone is using an unprotected battery. (BTW, you should really be using an ICR as IMR's have a much lower amp output).
AH-WHAT!
I don’t feel that I’m steeling at all. There aren’t patents for mechanical mods. And the mods that I buy don’t have logos or fake serial numbers on them. So as far as I’m concerned, I am paying the maker of the mod. Now the logos and serial numbers… that is wrong and should be stopped. IMO
Ah, but the counter will be that they didn't protect their intellectual property ...
To that I say the various "protections" aren't actually doing any protecting, they simply set up the ability to seek out compensation for the wrongs that have been done.
A law against theft for example is not what keeps me from taking the bike out of my neighbors unfenced yard; I know it's wrong to steal.
Maurice
Exactly. For some people as long as it's THEIR bike that isn't getting stolen it's all fair game.
A few US makers do have patents and trademarks. If they chose to take legal action to protect their property I'm sure they'd take a bunch of grief for that too.
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I've never bought stolen property and to the best of my knowledge the vendor that I buy from hasn't either. Don't be so dramatic.
No, not from me. If they in fact do have patents on their designs, by all means, protect what's yours.
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