OK, why all the ProVari hate?

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There are plenty of other mods out there that cost more than a ProVari and that you have to get on a list to even hope to get one. I can readily buy a ProVari with batteries, charger and extension cap for less than some of the hybrid or box mods on the market.

At this point a ProVari is not even a status symbol. How many people own a Darwin or Caravela? And don't get me started on the high end RBAs out there.

When did owning a ProVari become so bad and become equated with drinking the Kool-Aid? What about all the iHy, Zen, Caravela, etc. owners? They seem to get rave reviews of their mods.

It's not the Provari people generally hate, it's those people that happen into every "which PV should I get" discussion and make it sound like they're the only choice, or the right choice for everyone. You know the type... there'll be a post saying "I want something really small, for around $50," and inevitably some Provari fanboi will jump in telling them they don't really want what they think they want, and will be sorry and burn in eternal hellfire if they don't get a Provari.

Don't get me wrong... I love my Provari. LOVE it. It is an amazing piece of work. But that's not a valid reason to shove it down absolutely everyone's throat like a lot of people do, and those people -- not the Provari itself -- are irritating as all get-out.

Don't even get me started on the ones who leap headfirst into discussions about which mechanical to get with the "why don't you just get a Provari?" question. You slap some ignorance on top of the obsessiveness and it really gets unbearable.
 

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At this point a ProVari is not even a status symbol.
I had the 'you must own a ProVari because it's a "status symbol,"' thrown in my face a day or two ago. Never mind that I bought mine used, scuffed and scratched as a replacement for a broken Vamo. I could care less about status symbols. I just want a battery holder that looks good, is built like a tank and is reliable. ProVari fits that bill nicely. I spent over $300.00 on other mods, most of which are broken. I really don't worry that my ProVari will break. It's just that solid.

Do I think everyone should have one...no. There will be those who only want or need a cigalike or an ego or a box mod. However if I knew a vaper was about to be deployed on a tour of duty in a foreign country, in adverse conditions, the ProVari would be the first mod that would come to mind as a recommendation.
 

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I am not IN love with my ProVari either. It does what I want with a few extras. I just wish that when I mention that I own one I wouldn't catch flack for it. I do not blindly recommend it and I do not think it is the best unit for everyone.

Not every ProVari owner is a fan boy. I just hope that ECF members can differentiate. Otherwise my life on this forum will be difficult.
This too shall pass. :2cool:

Xanderxman, I started a similar thread as yours about 3 1/2 months ago, not long after I got my Provari. http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/provari/345310-provari-why-all-haters.html

That thread ended up being 30 pages long, with quite a debate on both sides of the fence. It got to be such a joke that a few of the Provari owners would deliberately do the "Get a Provari" for every question asked on the forum. It was funny for a minute, but that joking around backfired by helping to reinforce the fanboy reputation of all Provari owners as a group and a stigma was created.

Anyway, the Provari vs insert other mod here threads pop up here on at least a weekly basis, with the typical :pop: to watch the anticipated debates. Sometimes I enjoy participating in the fun, other times I just sit in a darkened corner and chew the corn.

I love my Provari. I think its the best mod for the money available. In fact, I often state if you can find a better mod than the Provari, then buy it. But I never recommend one unless the person is inquiring about one and asks for specific details.
 
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I have one and recommended a zmax kit to someone not too long ago. And he was hell bent on the provari, even though he said he didn't wanna spend the money.

Here's my insight on the matter; The more popular something is, the more love/hate attention it gets from people.

Who would you gossip about more on a celebrity forum? A-list actors or B-list actors?

That's why you see a lot of provari "hate".
 

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It is not direct but it is intended. I have seen responses to posts I have made that made me think I am being grouped into some cult. I do not take it to heart and I do not lose sleep. I just want to know why this particular mod seems to get more negative attention than others. And some of the posts here have highlighted that. I just find it sad.

Well, if there is a Provari cult, no one has asked me to join, which is good because I wouldn't want to belong to any cult that would have me as a member.

I have seen some reaction to members who chime in about other mods as well, including the Reo, but it didn't stop me from buying one (two actually). I just ignore that stuff. And there are drippers on here who think anyone who doesn't drip isn't getting the true vape experience. There are carto lovers who slam clearos and visa versa. There are fanboys for every PV and for every vendor and for every flavor (for instance, there is practically a shrine to Boba's and I can't stand the stuff--makes me ill). To each their own.
 

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I never got he memo were we suppose to all have a provari ? If you want a varible voltage they all are about the same. You want a simple 3.7 they are all just about the same. Whats hard is figuring out what atomizer or cartomizer they will have in 6 months so if you like it you can reorder it. Seems like when I find one I like they redesign it so it breaks easy or doesn't work the same.
 

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There are fan boys for everything. Why has the ProVari been singled out? I guess because it is the most expensive mod that most people can obtain readily?

I don't see many posts recommending a Caravela or iHy so I see the point. I guess I just got in at the "red headed step-child" level. A ProVari is expensive enough that not everyone is going to spring for it but not expensive or elite enough that only the high end owners will have one. So I get put into a "group" of PV owners that is too cool for the noobs but not cool enough for the elite. Seems fair.

If you can easily obtain an expensive unit then you are a tool for owning and recommending it but as long as you have to get on a list to get it then it is all good. Does that pretty much sum it up?

People generally don't make a lot of recommendations for things that aren't available.

Now I can sum it up for you. iTaste SVD thread, somebody saying the provari is better blah blah

Someone wants a VW device and asks about the assortment, someone comes in and blabs about the provari and this will continue even if the OP states they aren't interested in one.

So people don't hate the provari, they hate people who won't shut up about it when it's not the topic of discussion.

Some people have fun with the flavor of the month type mods and some people just don't want to spend the provari amount on one device. People who act like that and not wanting a provari or to hear about the provari again is some kind of heresy...are really annoying.
 
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I think that the real reason drama ensues every time a ProVari is mentioned (Even in the very specific ProVari subforum) is because there is no ProVari middle ground.

There is a lot of middle ground for almost any other mod on the market. Lavatube has a lot of indifference, Vamo, ZMax, etc... People who don't have one don't have an opinion on them at all.

Everyone seems to have an opinion about the ProVari. A lot of it stems from folks who have a different mod that works well for them, and a ProVari owner compares a ProVari to their mod of choice.

I get a lot of crap for saying that my ProVari vapes better than my Vamo or my Lavatube... Well dang, shoot me in the face... I don't get paid by ProVape, if it wasn't true I wouldn't say it! LoL! I don't want people to go broke buying vaping gear... I think when folks like me come out and say that "ProVari is better than XXXXX" it ticks people off.

Oh well... At the end of the day whatever works for you is exactly what you should be using. That said, what works for me, and a LOT of other folks, is the ProVari without question.

And in my honest opinion, ProVari vs VAMO vs Lavatube V2 vs eGo-VV vs eGo twist, vs... well heck, against any other mod I have used... ProVari is the best... And what I tell people is... Instead of buying all these different mods, I could have just bought ONE ProVari and been done with it.

Seems to fire people up :) But you know what folks say about opinions... If mine or any other ProVari owners' opinion is so valuable that you get all fired up over it, I have a special medical professional's phone number that I'd like to share with ya ;)
 

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Has it been a week already? My how time flies!
No, I don't like the "Provari fits all needs" train of thought. BUT, I've also notice a lot more lately of people just skimming threads and not listening to what the OP was even asking for! "I want a carto tank" BAM, Get a Vivi Nova! "I want a dripping atty." BAM, You need a carto tank or an RBA! I've seen people recommend an RBA to a poster with 1 post?
I really don't know what's going on anymore! No one is reading, just shoving their favorite thing down some one else's throat, be it a Provari or whatever with total disregard to the OP's needs. It's frustrating when trying to help someone with a problem that's confused already, then overload them with suggestions that don't even fit their needs/wants.
Sorry about my rant, this has been bugging me for a while now.
You want a Provari, buy one! You don't, don't! It's your money, do with it as you chose and it's not up to someone else to decide how you spend it, much less judge you for how you spent it, or you judge them how they spent it!
 

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Has it been a week already? My how time flies!
No, I don't like the "Provari fits all needs" train of thought. BUT, I've also notice a lot more lately of people just skimming threads and not listening to what the OP was even asking for! "I want a carto tank" BAM, Get a Vivi Nova! "I want a dripping atty." BAM, You need a carto tank or an RBA! I've seen people recommend an RBA to a poster with 1 post?
I really don't know what's going on anymore! No one is reading, just shoving their favorite thing down some one else's throat, be it a Provari or whatever with total disregard to the OP's needs. It's frustrating when trying to help someone with a problem that's confused already, then overload them with suggestions that don't even fit their needs/wants.
Sorry about my rant, this has been bugging me for a while now.
You want a Provari, buy one! You don't, don't! It's your money, do with it as you chose and it's not up to someone else to decide how you spend it, much less judge you for how you spent it, or you judge them how they spent it!

:thumb: This +1
 
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