OK, why all the ProVari hate?

[tj99959]

As someone who doesn't own a Provari...yet, I can see both sides of the coin. Sometimes when you start a chat about a evic, or a Vamo or anything VV almost immediately you'll get a ton of people sayin just get a Provari. But most of the time they dont say why you should get one. For some people that can be annoying. It kinda was to me in the beginning. Until I started to do my own research it didn't make sense why everyone was hyping it up so much. What caused me to even consider it was the superior service & warranty they seem to have on top of what seems to be stellar performance. Yes some people may not be able to afford one or just refuse to pay that amount for any device but I spent about 200 a month on cigarettes so it really wasn't about the price for me. Just my 2 cents....needless to say ill be drinking the Koop-aid as they say in about 2 weeks & ordering my first Provari! I'm excited...wish I could click on buy now!!

Many say "why", but haters never want to hear "why". Again, that's just human nature.

Now ... what provari owners hate ... Someone claming that XWZ apv is the best pv ever made even tho' it's only been on the market for two weeks.

 

[ratpack7]

Now that we have everyone together for the weekly battle- what's everyone think about the new Provari Passthrough??

If it was smaller and lighter, I'd give it a shot. And, yeah, a lot cheaper.

they are coping the saber touch Saber Touch Passthru I wish there was a universal one.

 

[worthatry]

Oh well someone beat me to it. I am not that clever.

I like passthroughs and in device charging. Thats why I chose the Evic over the Provari for my first Mod. I don't hate the provari though.

 

[Fury83]

Again to recap, people don't hate the provari, people hate fanboys/girls who won't shut up about it when it's not the topic or directly related (I guess for a fanboy/girls everything is related to a provari). Some people just don't want one or think it is worth the money, contrary to some folks opinions value in this way is subjective, and some of the people who own provari's can't seem to understand or accept that.

 

[budynbuick]

WOW,thirteen pages for a hate thread. Too much hate in the world. I hate 'liver'. Oh, & peas. & I hate them cans.

 

[tj99959]

WOW,thirteen pages for a hate thread. Too much hate in the world. I hate 'liver'. Oh, & peas. & I hate them cans.

Broccoli, if you serve broccoli I ain't stayin' at the table!

 

[Renolizzie]

Broccoli, if you serve broccoli I ain't stayin' at the table!

Broccoli haters really tick me off. Broccoli is the finest vegetable nature has ever created. Sure, it costs more than carrots...but broccoli is worth it.

 

[r77r7r]

they are coping the saber touch Saber Touch Passthru I wish there was a universal one.

Wow! They're very nice. Haven't been over there in awhile. A lot of very nice choices- colors, textures, 5amps, 6.9volts, not too expensive and FREE fast shipping.

 

[mmikee]

Again to recap, people don't hate the provari, people hate fanboys/girls who won't shut up about it when it's not the topic or directly related (I guess for a fanboy/girls everything is related to a provari). Some people just don't want one or think it is worth the money, contrary to some folks opinions value in this way is subjective, and some of the people who own provari's can't seem to understand or accept that.

Ah, but for some, EVERY topic is related to the Provari.

 

[Riverboat]

So, since there was a time, the ProVari will forever be remembered as the most hated mod on ECF?

I understand what you are saying but since there WAS a time and that time is no longer should all ProVari owners be looked at as idiots who are members of the Church of the ProVari? I have been seeing a lot of eVic posts lately and I am hoping deep down inside that the eVic become the next ProVari. Not that I am wishing anything ill upon eVic owners but it would be nice to see a post about the Church of the eVic.

I actually put off my ProVari purchase once to keep from being included in the typical ProVari group. How sad is that?

I have been guilty of being a fanboy... The thing is everyone can own one and for the money-you get pay for.. USA made quality thats rock solid... Most hated mod? Naw probely the most loved IMO....
Even I aggree that "Get a Provari" is geting kind of old....

 

[SheerLuckHolmes]

Every topic anyone can point to has two perspectives. One which is appreciated and one which is not appreciated.

Therefore, it is a choice to focus on unappreciated or appreciated over the other. Where one focuses says a lot about the individuals overall approach to life.

 

[Baditude]

I'll jump back in the discussion since I'm finished with my popcorn now.

I think that there is a lot of resentment towards Provape the company by the people who do not own a Provari. Either they say that the company is falling behind the times by not offering VW, or they complain about the initial purchase price being too high. Or they complain about Provape charging additional for colored bodies, for a blue or green LED display. Or they say they that they would buy a Provari if Provape changed from a one button control to a three button control.

I'm not speaking on the behalf of Provape, but hear me out. When you purchase a Provari, you not only are buying the unit itself, you are also investing in the product and the company's customer service. Besides the one year warranty, they offer an option to purchase an additional year on top of that should you want the additional security. Even after either of the warranty's expire, Provape continues to provide repair service at owner cost at already published prices. This is why the Provari is a good choice for those people who are looking into a device built for the long haul. If any device or company could be best described as the best product and company for the long haul, it is this one.

About Provape nickle and diming. Provape offers the Provari at at generic, bare-bones price of $165. If you just need a Provari but don't need a custom-colored tube, a custom-colored LED screen, or an extension cap you can purchase this less expensive model. However, you'll pay more for the colored tube of choice, colored LED of choice, or an extension cap. Provape also offers imperfect, or blemished, new Provari's at reduced cost in the clearance section of the Provape sight, so one can get a Provari for even cheaper.

Provape out-sources the colored Provari's to an outside company to be painted, a service that Provape has to pay for. The green and blue LED screens are not made in-house, but purchased elsewhere, and they also cost Provape more to buy than the default red LED. The battery end cap extension costs Provape more to manufacture. So, these additional costs are passed on to ONLY those customers who want them, and not to EVERY Provari customer.

Concerning the lack of VW feature, current Provari owners are getting along pretty well without it. Having it available is not a deal breaker for most customers as it sounds like Provape is selling as many Provari's as fast as they can take them off of the assembly line. I see more and more owners of new APV's with VW who say that they don't even use VW once they've tried it.

Concerning the 1 vs 3 button function. It took me all of ten minutes of playing around with the 1 button function to master it. I work it now without even counting the number of pushes. You learn to adapt, or you don't.

That's my

 

[kiwivap]

Concerning the lack of VW feature, current Provari owners are getting along pretty well without it. Having it available is not a deal breaker for most customers as it sounds like Provape is selling as many Provari's as fast as they can take them off of the assembly line. I see more and more owners of new APV's with VW who say that they don't even use VW once they tried it.

I'm seeing lots of posts by variable wattage users who are saying the opposite to that actually. The APV forum has tons of them. A lot of people like it. I am not seeing lots of people saying once they tried it they didn't use it. Yes, I know you have a certain way of vaping and don't see the need for yourself, but there are now thousands of people who do use and enjoy vw. Since the vw devices also have variable voltage people have both options on one pv. Most use the variable wattage. If that's what people prefer I don't see the need to try and make out it isn't popular just to try and promote a different option.
You've posted an advertisement for your favourite pv, but I don't find your preferences are the same as mine in some respects.
I prefer the three button menu myself - much more convenient for me. I like the look of the Innokin SVD right now too actually and the menu system is one feature that appeals.

 

[PLANofMAN]

I prefer three buttons and variable wattage also. I would like to see ProVape come out with such a model, but it hasn't been a deal breaker for me. What I would really like to see is a VW mod from Provari that is adjustable in 10ths of a watt, rather than the .5 watt adjustments we've seen so far from China.

...Wouldn't that just make all the haters scream?

 

[Baditude]

I'm seeing lots of posts by variable wattage users who are saying the opposite to that actually. The APV forum has lots of them. A lot of people like it. Yes, I know you have a certain way of vaping and don't see the need for yourself, but there are now thousands of people who do use and enjoy vw.
You've posted an advertisement for your favourite pv, but I don't find your preferences are the same as mine in some respects.
I prefer the three button menu myself - much more convenient for me. I like the look of the Innokin SVD right now too actually and the menu system is one feature that appeals.

Of all people here, I knew you would be the first to respond, Kiwi. That's fine. There's room for everyone's preferences in this world, and a variety of devices available within it to suit every vapor's need. I have two other APV's that have the 3 button menu, and I find them no easier to use than the Provari's. Like I said earlier, you learn to adapt, or you don't.

And I said that I was not speaking on behalf of Provape. It was not meant to appear to be an advertisement for my favorite PV, but an explaination on why Provape does what they do with pricing optional parts.

 

[worthatry]

I prefer three buttons and variable wattage also. I would like to see ProVape come out with such a model, but it hasn't been a deal breaker for me. What I would really like to see is a VW mod from Provari that is adjustable in 10ths of a watt, rather than the .5 watt adjustments we've seen so far from China.

...Wouldn't that just make all the haters scream?

Evic goes by the 10th.

 

[kiwivap]

Of all people here, I knew you would be the first to respond, Kiwi.

I'd say no, you didn't know that. Even so your comment doesn't change the fact that many people prefer using vw now.

That's fine. There's room for everyone's preferences in this world, and a variety of devices available within it to suit every vapor's need. I have two other APV's that have the 3 button menu, and I find them no easier to use than the Provari's. Like I said earlier, you learn to adapt, or you don't.

I have one button menu pvs too. I like the three button much more. I don't have to adapt to anything - I like one way better than the other. I don't see the need to "adapt" to something less convenient when I have an option that is better for me.

And I said that I was not speaking on behalf of Provape. It was not meant to appear to be an advertisement for my favorite PV, but an explaination on why Provape does what they do with pricing optional parts.

Read like an advert to me.

 

[Porrn-Hair]

Now if it only had a vibrator ...
& a MP3 player..
Alan
Oh hell, it needs a bigger screen to we can watch HD movies on it.
Is there an ap for that?

 

[kiwivap]

I prefer three buttons and variable wattage also. I would like to see ProVape come out with such a model, but it hasn't been a deal breaker for me. What I would really like to see is a VW mod from Provari that is adjustable in 10ths of a watt, rather than the .5 watt adjustments we've seen so far from China.

...Wouldn't that just make all the haters scream?

There were some good posts a while back showing how 0.5 watts was not a big jump at all. But some people like the DNA type adjustment for watts.

 

[crxess]

It is rarely the product at fault but the persons touting it.

How many people have gotten ...... after being cut off by a Mercedes? It wasn't the car, but the owner doing the deed.

I have no personal need to try and make anyone think I'm better than they are. I also refuse to believe something must be overpriced to be worthy of my purchase.
Rather, I choose my own path and become involved with the things I encounter along the way.

If money was no issue would I own a Provari - Maybe, don't know Would I own a Caravela - possible, not sure.
If I had $200 to spend would I spend all or it on one Device - NO
No warranty, even on a Provari, is going to cover me loosing my device or it being stolen along the line. I prefer spreading out my budget to allow for a backup plan.