On stockpiling after FDA deeming regulations

[JCinFLA]

to those who aren't shopping like crazy, they (IMO) get attacked like they're the ones' who are doing it wrong or told they're going to burn in a heap of cigarette ashes & that's just wrong on so many levels & it needs to stop.

I was sort of getting some of that, because I don't need/want to learn how to build my own coils...now. I'll never have to resort to smoking again to get my nic fix, as I'd been told I'd need to, if I chose not to learn coil building now. Finally let the concerned person know I was well-prepared with enough types of coils, and other ways of vaping things, to never have to smoke again! I also learned the reasons behind his concern, and we came to a mutual understanding. All's well now.

So I don't think it's that people are trying to berate anyone about not stocking up or learning coil-making, or DIY, etc. just for the sake of harping at them. It may, like in my case, be because of a real concern based on someone's own struggles in the past and having to resort/relapse back to smoking again. Just my take on it though.

 

[chanelvaps]

@Alien Traveler I suggest you quit looking at your anus before sticking your head in there and smell the coffee...or roses, whichever you prefer. Or you will be thrust into the abyss of analogs once again.

this is just so horribly inappropriate. C'mon folks. We are adults

 

[ENAUD]

I used to like going to the track and watch the crowds, the casual players out for a day, and the serious ones studying the programs. Winners and losers all have interesting reactions when the race comes to an end, it is amusing to look at all the expressions of emotion in the crowd.

There is a corollary here with this whole deeming and prepping game. I would never in a million years dream of telling somebody they were doing it wrong in either case, nobody knows which horse will win...

 

[r055co]

Option #3 ?

Use 0mg

Me like many others 0mg is not an option

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[Just Me]

I did learn today that an addendum has just been approved by the House to revert products from 2007 to 8/8/16.

I'm interested. Where did you learn this?

 

[bnrkwest]

Ok I admit it my stash cost me around $3000 because I had nothing rebuildable, no Nic except a 120 ml bottle, only one Provari. Everything I used daily was not something that would last except the Provari. Sooooo I went shopping So glad I did and hopefully set for rest of my life, so for me $3000 was no biggy for the rest of my life. I am happy and glad I had a chance to stock up because I don't have to buy anything else as long as I am vaping

 

[zoiDman]

Me like many others 0mg is not an option

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To some people, it May or May Not be.

If I was confronted with what mikepetro said he is confronted with, I would give 0mg a Serious Chance.

I take it you have Tried 0mg a few times in the Past?

 

[Iron Molly]

I would definitely use 0 mg if it came to that. I would probably supplement with some snus for the nic if I needed it. The 0 mg for the hand to mouth habit. But BT/BP would not get any of my money!

 

[Rossum]

I take it you have Tried 0mg a few times in the Past?

I have and found it utterly unsatisfying. Perhaps if I spent several years weaning down to zero it might work, but I currently have no desire to do that.

Besides, I'm not sure what the point would be. The FDA still regards 0mg as a "tobacco product" and so does my home state (PA) for tax purposes. So I really don't see the benefit from that perspective.

 

[zoiDman]

I have and found it utterly unsatisfying. Perhaps if I spent several years weaning down to zero it might work, but I currently have no desire to do that.

Besides, I'm not sure what the point would be. The FDA still regards 0mg as a "tobacco product" and so does my home state (PA) for tax purposes. So I really don't see the benefit from that perspective.

In the Context of the reply I originally made, the Purpose was to Not have to pay a Higher Insurance Premium.

But, of course, there could be Others.

 

[mikepetro]

Option #3 ?

Use 0mg

Maybe an option for some, but not for me. I am in this for the nic fix. Tried 0mg a few times and it did nothing for me.

Anyway, the main point of my "only 2 options" was that going back to tobacco was not one of them. I dont ever want that monkey on my back again. Yes, vaping itself is an addiction (for me), but at least it is one I can live with.

 

[BreSha6869]

Maybe an option for some, but not for me. I am in this for the nic fix. Tried 0mg a few times and it did nothing for me.

Anyway, the main point of my "only 2 options" was that going back to tobacco was not one of them. I dont ever want that monkey on my back again. Yes, vaping itself is an addiction (for me), but at least it is one I can live with.

I'm the same. 0 NIC is a waste of time for me. I like the flavours, but I really only vape to keep off cigarettes.

I have a lifetime supply of NIC, but if it went bad or I ran out somehow, I would likely just quit vaping if taxation made it cost prohibitive. I highly doubt it would be nearly as hard to quit as smoking, in any case.

 

[440BB]

I want to maintain a certain level of nic both to keep off smokes and for therapeutic purposes. If my nic stock became short for some reason, I would play roulette with Chinese sources if necessary without hesitation.

 

[Tommy-Chi]

By the end of the month, I'll be better equipped than most B&M. There are some mega stores, but they are relatively few in number. Most of the time when I went to a B&M, I bought a few things to support them, even if I did not need it, but most of the goods they had I would never buy.

CASAA, ECF - YouTube and those who comment on topics at hand, and vendors have allowed us to keep abreast of new products, rules, and regulations faster than any B&M.

I'm so tickled with my stash. Glad that I started. I'll be more in to DIY than I ever was within 60 days and I doubt I'll need anything other than flavors, pg/vg, batteries and cotton over the next decade.

 

[Tommy-Chi]

Maybe it's because that kind of thinking would require:

1. that there are indeed people going "completely overboard", (which means I must've missed the part where it was stated what the right amount for anyone else to be stocking up...actually is)!

2. a really big pair of kahunas and/or a superior attitude...for 1 adult to tell other adults when they should stop buying things!

3. the decision to be made NOT to say anything to them, (not because it's none of anyone's business what other people buy), but because we might need them & their "stuff" in the future. I would hope no one on here feels that way about the rest of us.

Hopefully, it's because: We don't know anyone else's vaping situation (their nic level, how many mL a day they vape, their preferred hardware, if they're vaping MTL or DL vaping, how many more years he/she plans to be vaping, etc.). We don't know their personal financial situation. Don't know whom, or how many others, they're actually buying for when they post about their purchases. But instead...we know this - Everyone on here is supposed to be of adult age, of reasonably sound mind, and capable of making decisions for themselves. So it's not our business how much or how little of anything someone else buys!

I think there is some pride in having prepared for the worst. Being self sufficient is a good thing.

I've posted pics before and after I get to where I feel comfortable (say 15 to 30 days) I'll post some pics, with a complete list of what I have and what remains. Maybe somebody out there needs some help and a roadmap.

 

[Completely Average]

Me like many others 0mg is not an option

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0mg is always an option.

Gradual reduction is the key. Drop your nic level just 1mg once every 3 months. In time you'll be down to just 1mg juice. After that you can go to 0mg and you would never notice the difference.


My wife has absolutely convinced herself that she needs a lot of nicotine. If you talked to her today she would tell you that she can't get by without her 18mg juice, and despite vaping for 3 years she couldn't possibly even think about reducing it.

She has no idea that I've been gradually reducing it without telling her since I started DIYing my juice. She's really only vaping 10mg juice, but if she feels better thinking it's 18mg I'm not going to burst her bubble. Nicotine addiction or reliance is a lot more mental mindset than a lot of people want to admit to. 0mg is always an option. You might not want to take it, but it is an option.

 

[Tommy-Chi]

That's just it........No one has been telling anyone they're going completely overboard (depending on what ones' definition of overboard is) yet to those who aren't shopping like crazy, they (IMO) get attacked like they're the ones' who are doing it wrong or told they're going to burn in a heap of cigarette ashes & that's just wrong on so many levels & it needs to stop.

Not everyone needs 365 mods & 12 lifetimes worth of pre-built coils, orings, & screws.
And for whatever reason, many people have no interest or need to DIY'g.
Many of you are buying things simply because it's cheap & not because you have a need for it.

There may be a few out there overdoing it. I'll bet most are being pretty level headed.

Having only started vaping in Sept 2015, I only had one 75W Sigelei box mod up until around December. I didn't start compiling a serious list of needs until around January. I still don't have what I need for DIY, but things that I needed to secure before prices went up or they were pulled form the market.

I really like everything that I have. No complaints here.

 

[ScandaLeX]

0mg is always an option.

Gradual reduction is the key. Drop your nic level just 1mg once every 3 months. In time you'll be down to just 1mg juice. After that you can go to 0mg and you would never notice the difference.


My wife has absolutely convinced herself that she needs a lot of nicotine. If you talked to her today she would tell you that she can't get by without her 18mg juice, and despite vaping for 3 years she couldn't possibly even think about reducing it.

She has no idea that I've been gradually reducing it without telling her since I started DIYing my juice. She's really only vaping 10mg juice, but if she feels better thinking it's 18mg I'm not going to burst her bubble. Nicotine addiction or reliance is a lot more mental mindset than a lot of people want to admit to. 0mg is always an option. You might not want to take it, but it is an option.

I already gradually reduced- I quit smoking cigarettes.
I am not going to gradually reduce my vaping down to 0 nic cause (IMO) there would be no point to me continuing to vape.

 

[Sugar_and_Spice]

0mg is always an option.

Gradual reduction is the key. Drop your nic level just 1mg once every 3 months. In time you'll be down to just 1mg juice. After that you can go to 0mg and you would never notice the difference.


My wife has absolutely convinced herself that she needs a lot of nicotine. If you talked to her today she would tell you that she can't get by without her 18mg juice, and despite vaping for 3 years she couldn't possibly even think about reducing it.

She has no idea that I've been gradually reducing it without telling her since I started DIYing my juice. She's really only vaping 10mg juice, but if she feels better thinking it's 18mg I'm not going to burst her bubble. Nicotine addiction or reliance is a lot more mental mindset than a lot of people want to admit to. 0mg is always an option. You might not want to take it, but it is an option.

You sneaky dog, you....LOL but I don't think I would want to be in your shoes if she ever finds out....eventually she will realize what you are saying,,,,,but until then......hope your couch is soft.

 

[retired1]

Couch? He better hope the cast iron skillets are safely hidden!