On stockpiling after FDA deeming regulations

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My WL liter is from March of 2014. Does anyone have any from that period? That they've tasted already?

I just opened a bottle from 5/14 yesterday and mixed up a batch of unflavored with it. Still crystal clear and no "funny" taste to report.
 

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I USS Rayon and LOVE it.

You wick it differently than cotton. Tge Rayon you want very tight in tge coils. Many report hearing the Rayon squeak.

Wicks like a dream if you thin the tails about 1/2 as thick as in the coil.
I agree.Rayon has been the absolute best wicking i have used.I first bought a few feet of it off ebay to see if i would like it.After my first tank full on rayon wicks,i rushed over to Sally's and bought the 3 pound box,i now have enough wick to last me and my son the rest of our lives haha.
That squeak is key for me,that tells me i got it perfect every time.I don't always hear it,but if i don't hear it,then i can feel it,and get great results every time.
 

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Agreed, but the intended use part comes into play if it is bought from a vape oriented company.
Any company with ecig, vapor, etc in their name will likely have issues selling flavorings.

Right but you just buy direct as we did years ago. They will still be accessible is my point. I was trying to figure out why I am seeing people stocking up on flavors.
 

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Agreed, but the intended use part comes into play if it is bought from a vape oriented company.
Any company with ecig, vapor, etc in their name will likely have issues selling flavorings.
I will quote my Survival instructor "Better go have and not need than to need and not have"

that is why i stocked up on everything vaping related except PG, VG, and 18650 batteries those three items are needed by at least two different industries.

Kanthal is vaping related so i prepared. O never wanted to use Loran oils for flavoring again so i prepped
 

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Right but you just buy direct as we did years ago. They will still be accessible is my point. I was trying to figure out why I am seeing people stocking up on flavors.
Some of us just stock up on everything. :)
Except for outstanding deals I plan on buying nothing for at least 2 years. Then only flavorings, batteries and PG/VG.
I have enough of everything else for at least 10 years.
 

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    Diy and food flavoring may be our only choice, if we want flavored e-juice.
    I don't think the FDA plans to approve any flavored juice, unless it's tobacco or menthol flavored.

    Side note: I've been running a REO using unflavored, using KGD for 2 months, about 360mls.
    Wicks look and taste as good as new. Do want to try some Rayon tho...
     
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    I agree.Rayon has been the absolute best wicking i have used.I first bought a few feet of it off ebay to see if i would like it.After my first tank full on rayon wicks,i rushed over to Sally's and bought the 3 pound box,i now have enough wick to last me and my son the rest of our lives haha.
    That squeak is key for me,that tells me i got it perfect every time.I don't always hear it,but if i don't hear it,then i can feel it,and get great results every time.

    I got the only box of Rayon Sally's had. 500 feet Rayon i will NEVER use half of it.
     
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    Robert Cromwell

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    The only reason I have to rewick is due to buildup on the coil.
    After about 120 ml of juice which is sweetened with Stevia my cotton is only slightly discolored inside the coil.
    I start getting a slight burned flavor because of coil buildup.
    I dry burn and rinse then rewick.

    Most of my vaping is in a STM RBA at 15 watts.
     

    Robert Cromwell

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    I got the only box of Rayon Sally's had. 500 feet Rayon i will NEVER use half of it.
    Should have tried the Salon Coil cotton 45 feet for under $4.

    Been using it over a year and have maybe used 2 feet :)

    I put it in a nice glass canister and just pull out from the top as needed.
     

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    Right but you just buy direct as we did years ago. They will still be accessible is my point. I was trying to figure out why I am seeing people stocking up on flavors.
    Intended use is a very, very, VERY dangerous concept. It is commonly believed here that the FDA "can't" ban flavoring unless the seller is directly involved in the vape business.

    But Intended Use is not determined by vapers here. It is determined by the sole discretion of the FDA. And in fact, they could effectively ban flavorings if they wanted to because they are the final arbiters of intended use. The only thing stopping them is the lobbying and graft power of the flavoring makers. Or someone with deep enough pockets to take it to the Supreme Court, assuming they had any case at all.

    I don't think people understand, at a very general level, how dangerous "Intended Use" really is. Especially in the hands of such obviously maniacal bureaucrats.
     

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    Intended use is a very, very, VERY dangerous concept. It is commonly believed here that the FDA "can't" ban flavoring unless the seller is directly involved in the vape business.

    But Intended Use is not determined by vapers here. It is determined by the sole discretion of the FDA. And in fact, they could effectively ban flavorings if they wanted to because they are the final arbiters of intended use. The only thing stopping them is the lobbying and graft power of the flavoring makers. Or someone with deep enough pcokets to take it to the Supreme Court, assuming they had any case at all.

    I don't think people understand, at a very general level, how dangerous "Intended Use" really is. Especially in the hands of such obviously maniacal bureaucrats.
    Hope for the best but prep for the worst.
     
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    I got the only box of Rayon Sally's had. 500 feet Rayon i will NEVER use half of it.
    That's the one i went in for,but they were out of the 500' one,and the 3 pound box was only $2 or $3 more,so i went for it instead of waiting for them to restock.It doesn't say how many feet is in this box,but as lite as rayon is,it takes alot to make 3 pounds haha.Me and my son have both been using out of the box for over a year,and i gave a friend around 40 feet,and it doesn't look like it has went down at all in the box,but that's ok by me,a one time $15 investment,and never have to buy wicks again,i'm good with that haha.
     

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    I understand what you are saying but, I do not believe that the FDA will shut FA, PA, Capellas or any of the other food flavor manufacturers down. They are first and foremost food flavor manufacturers.

    Think of it this way Salem.

    Ejuice us primarily made of VG abd PG.

    They could and perhaps may label all flavorings with VG and or PG in it as flavors intended for vaping and yank it off the market.

    Do as you choose to stockpile flavors or not.

    I will not take that chance. I also will not be flavoring juices with alcohol extracts or Loran oils flavors
     

    Two_Bears

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    That's the one i went in for,but they were out of the 500' one,and the 3 pound box was only $2 or $3 more,so i went for it instead of waiting for them to restock.It doesn't say how many feet is in this box,but as lite as rayon is,it takes alot to make 3 pounds haha.Me and my son have both been using out of the box for over a year,and i gave a friend around 40 feet,and it doesn't look like it has went down at all in the box,but that's ok by me,a one time $15 investment,and never have to buy wicks again,i'm good with that haha.

    When i got tge 500 foot Rayon box tax and everything was $15.12
     

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