If you can't take it don't dish it out.Are you aware personal attacks are against forum rules, if you weren't, you are now.
Bruce in Ocala, Fl
If you can't take it don't dish it out.Are you aware personal attacks are against forum rules, if you weren't, you are now.
Bruce in Ocala, Fl
Don't forget there are still some in the US. Provape and ReoMods to name two.They can visit Evolv. But the rest are based in China. Good luck trying to enforce an US laws or regulations there.
Yep, Vaping will be going Underground.Anything that can change the result of a vpaing product requires a new PMTA.
Software is specifically mentioned. They will want test results to either prove it did not change the vaping results or to approve the new results.
Technically a vape shop installing a coil in an RTA or RDA requires a PMTA.
Nah. The Chinese will keep publishing.The inevitable result of deeming, should any open system device actually gain approval, will be the end of software updates. Even safety related updates.
Government agencies tend to go after the wrong things, usually because of political self interest groups. For instance, in the war against drugs the government wasted too much money and resources on that herbal "gateway drug" which allowed the real nasty drugs to proliferate out of control. If you know the history, you're aware that a single government man's special interest and propaganda program was the reason this substance was banned.Some people sure have a lot of confidence in the FDA, a Government agency to actually accomplish something.
This is the same Government that interviewed the Orlando shooter 3 times in 2 years and decided he wasn't terrorist enough. (Not to mention the 911 guys, Shoe Bomber and Boston Bombers they all had turned over to them, then let them go to kill.)
The FDA can't keep our FOOD safe, and they got a Vape Squadron to send to China?
Bruce in Ocala, Fl
Just remember that we need a judicial injunction before August. Otherwise, after that e-cigs ARE a tobacco product. And, IMO that is really all the FDA wants.
After e-cigs become a tobacco product they are pretty much free to do as they wish.
Anything that can change the result of a vpaing product requires a new PMTA.
Software is specifically mentioned. They will want test results to either prove it did not change the vaping results or to approve the new results.
Technically a vape shop installing a coil in an RTA or RDA requires a PMTA.
Exactly! Thats why i prep.Know your enemy. Do not underestimate your enemy.
I have no idea what Provape plans to so. Based on their "Sale" pricing of late, I'm guessing they expect to fold.Don't forget there are still some in the US. Provape and ReoMods to name two.
I hate to think how many transmissions I stripped the gears in.........That's actually a pretty good analogy. I wonder how much correlation there is between people (like me!) who prefer to drive sticks and people who like squonk mods.
Oh, and like stick, a squonker setup is easier/cheaper to maintain than than those fancy "automatic" tanks.![]()
You're right about that. Isnt the board $80 alone?
I don't see how people can't understand this. No matter what happens with pmtas as it now stands in the deeming. This point is clear as day...AS OF AUGUST 9th, ECIGARETTES AND JUICE ARE TOBACCO PRODUCTS. Even if by some lucky chance the Bishop-Cole amendment gets passed to move up the grandfather date the fact will still stand...ECIGARETTES AND THEIR JUICE ARE TOBACCO PRODUCTS. I am more than certain that states are going to jump all over this to tax to oblivion and back. Making vaping even more expensive than cigarettes. Think about some cigalikes...the companies claim one is equal to how many cigarettes? Think of how that will be taxed. Think of how much every ml will be taxed. It will cost more than double that it is right now. Imagine if you will how much taxes will be added to a liter of 100mg.
Don't they state that if a vape shop installs a coil they are a tobacco manufacturer?
Exactly! Thats why i prep.
By the way did yoy know President Obama issued an executive order giving first responders the right to confiscate all the food but enough for 72 hours belonging to preppers.
Thats why i have most of my preps in buried caches around the Catalina foothills
There you go with that common sense nonsense. Need to get a handle on that!
Too funny!There you go with that common sense nonsense. Need to get a handle on that!
Some people sure have a lot of confidence in the FDA, a Government agency to actually accomplish something.
This is the same Government that interviewed the Orlando shooter 3 times in 2 years and decided he wasn't terrorist enough. (Not to mention the 911 guys, Shoe Bomber and Boston Bombers they all had turned over to them, then let them go to kill.)
The FDA can't keep our FOOD safe, and they got a Vape Squadron to send to China?
Bruce in Ocala, Fl
Brother i was talking about vusiting websites to see when firm ware is updatedThey can visit Evolv. But the rest are based in China. Good luck trying to enforce an US laws or regulations there.