Parents dont let me vape, help.

[HauntedMyst]

I remember the time my father slapped me for something and I didn't cry.
I just looked at him.

Ahh, a common occurrence in the father son relationship. I remember the look on his face when it happened with me and my dad. Golden

Even more I remember the look on his face when he woke up in the middle of the night and said "Do I smell gasoline?" and I was holding an empty gas can and flicking a Zippo and saying "Who is the dog with the big nuts now? Huh? Who is the Alpha Wolf now?" Priceless!

Of course dad, being dad and being ex-military pulled in a few strings and favors and upped the ante a few days later but way beyond the bounds of gentlemanly one-upsmanship. Rather than chasing me down the car or pulling a gun on me as I expected he went way over the top. I'm walking to school over the football field when an Apache helicopter swoops down, mini guns a blazing (with intentional misses) and him over the loud speaker saying "Who is the dog with the big nuts now numbnuts? Huh? Who is the Alpha Wolf now?" He said the look on my face was more than priceless as I soiled myself in front of most of the school. And it was priceless! He showed me a Polaroid he took from the cockpit and used that pic as our Christmas card for the next 4 years. I miss him.

 

[cmdebrecht]

If it's all about maintaining a habit you can't quit, get some flavorless juice and sneak a vape in your own room or in the bathroom or such. It's not like vaping is something that is hard to do without them knowing it if it's all about getting a much needed nic fix..

I don't think this is very good advice. Respect your parents enough to not vape in their house, whether they know about it or not.

 

[cmdebrecht]

And if your parents are truly as judgmental and vindictive as you make them out to be.

Umm I didn't get this at all. Doesn't seem fair to OP. Or are you just being snarky?

 

[EvilZoe]

Umm I didn't get this at all. Doesn't seem fair to OP. Or are you just being snarky?

Seriously. He wasn't that way in the least. Just frustrated and a little sad that they weren't getting it.

 

[Nermal]

Does your town have a local vape shop? If so, asking your parents to go to one with you will change the world. The professionalism, boutique stylings, and ultra knowledgable, professional workers will help your parents feel at ease if they have any questions.

Well now, that just seems quotable.

 

[patkin]

I think the whole point is going off track:

"(i dont want to vape in front of them or where they dont want me to vape. Their house, their rules! i just would like them to have a better view about what im doing. they continue to call it "drug paraphernalia" and call my mod a {SOMETHING ILLICIT} and say that other people would think i was a drug addict if i was holding my mod, i would just like to change their opinion on it)"

For the third time now... use a cigalike. You want their approval? Not so different from "Footloose" days. Whether its skirts above the knee; short shorts or bare bellies, cig pack rolled in t-shirt sleeves or tube tops, jeans for pete's sake! and now thongs, pierced ears then but now tongues, tattoos once for only sailors or gangstas and only men but now everyone... its always the same thing. This is a generational and, partly, parent/child issue that has little to do with following rules in THEIR house. They would disapprove whether done in their house or not. Suck it up and vape what doesn't smack them in the face so hard... ease into it.... after all, they certainly had to ease you into things you didn't like as they were giving you time to grow up. They might change... give it some time but be a little gentler with them in the meantime... like hide that Podliac.

 

[retrox]

Umm I didn't get this at all. Doesn't seem fair to OP. Or are you just being snarky?

"they continue to call it "drug paraphernalia" and call my mod a {SOMETHING ILLICIT} and say that other people would think i was a drug addict if i was holding my mod"

Judgmental.

"they get extremely mad to the point of kicking me out"

Vindictive.

 

[Iffy]

He showed me a Polaroid he took from the cockpit and used that pic as our Christmas card for the next 4 years.

 

[cmdebrecht]

"they continue to call it "drug paraphernalia" and call my mod a {SOMETHING ILLICIT} and say that other people would think i was a drug addict if i was holding my mod"

Judgmental.

"they get extremely mad to the point of kicking me out"

Vindictive.

I think that's what the psych majors call transference. Seems like you are the one who feels his parents are judgmental and vindictive, not the OP. He seems to have a great deal of respect for his folks.

 

[EvilZoe]

I think his parents are worried about him bringing trouble down upon himself when people think his device is for illicit purposes.

 

[klynnn]

I am of a different school. My son lived with me several years but he paid part of the house pmt and any extras. He had his own area and did what he wanted. A paying adult is just that. If I was paying someones's bills in my house and supporting them you could bet your ... I would rule the roost. But I draw the line on vaping, it has no effect on my house but it gives me a way to control you as I wish.

 

[retrox]

I think that's what the psych majors call transference. Seems like you are the one who feels his parents are judgmental and vindictive, not the OP. He seems to have a great deal of respect for his folks.

The only thing I feel the OP's parents are is unreasonable, based on what little information he/she has given me to work with. If the OP is vaping in order to override an addiction to cigarettes, I would hope for a slightly more favorable reaction from his/her loved ones than "Do it in my house again and you're OUT, buddy!"

Would these parents be supportive of their child if he/she was using nicotine lozenges or gum in the house? How about Chantix? Certainly they would, right? Unlike those other forms of cessation, there is a very real and wholly undeserved stigma associated with vaping, and every line of thought that condemns it as something dirty or shameful or an act that must be performed out of the sight of "right-thinking people" must be abolished. The future of our healthcare system may depend on it. Lives may depend on it.

Without entering into a debate on parenting, which is far beyond the scope of this forum: If I were to walk into my son's room and catch him with a Poldiac, having no idea myself what it was, I would patiently listen to his explanation (incredulously, no doubt), and then make it my life's mission to find out everything I could about this thing called "vaping." After yelling at him for a couple of minutes for ever picking up a nicotine habit in the first place, I would proceed to offer encouragement and tell him to stick with it. At that point, if I could think of any reason why I wouldn't want him doing it in the house (perhaps I don't like his room smelling like strawberry shortcake), I would demand that he only vape outdoors. My house, my rules.

As a reasonable person, however, I somehow doubt that I would be able to think of a reason.

 

[cmdebrecht]

The only thing I feel the OP's parents are is unreasonable, based on what little information he/she has given me to work with. If the OP is vaping in order to override an addiction to cigarettes, I would hope for a slightly more favorable reaction from his/her loved ones than "Do it in my house again and you're OUT, buddy!"

Would these parents be supportive of their child if he/she was using nicotine lozenges or gum in the house? How about Chantix? Certainly they would, right? Unlike those other forms of cessation, there is a very real and wholly undeserved stigma associated with vaping, and every line of thought that condemns it as something dirty or shameful or an act that must be performed out of the sight of "right-thinking people" must be abolished. The future of our healthcare system may depend on it. Lives may depend on it.

Without entering into a debate on parenting, which is far beyond the scope of this forum: If I were to walk into my son's room and catch him with a Poldiac, having no idea myself what it was, I would patiently listen to his explanation (incredulously, no doubt), and then make it my life's mission to find out everything I could about this thing called "vaping." After yelling at him for a couple of minutes for ever picking up a nicotine habit in the first place, I would proceed to offer encouragement and tell him to stick with it. At that point, if I could think of any reason why I wouldn't want him doing it in the house (perhaps I don't like his room smelling like strawberry shortcake), I would demand that he only vape outdoors. My house, my rules.

As a reasonable person, however, I somehow doubt that I would be able to think of a reason.

Can't argue with anything you said here. Didn't mean to sound snotty In previous post. Some other yahoo on the forum made me cranky and I took it out on you. I apologize.

 

[CaliforniaGirl]

Honestly, speaking as a parent, and no, I don't know the OP nor his parents, it sounds like the typical semi-hysterical "empty parent threat" to me. They told him not to do something, he did it anyway, they blurted out the whole thing about kicking him out.

Kind of like how my husband yells "You're never playing Wii again, I'm throwing the Wii in the garbage!" after my sons do something really, really, really, really bad.

Even in the depths of their guilty fear I can see in their eyes that they don't actually believe it.

 

[Butters78]

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[retrox]

No apology necessary, cmdebrecht, I took no offense to anything you said!

I would like to know how the situation turns out for abstractcousin, but either way it's not like he can't vape wherever he wants when school is in session. At least for now...

 

[DC2]

Here is perhaps another point of view, although maybe not so popular with so many parents around...

When I was a young lad (miscreant) I did many things in my room (long list) that my parents would have found unacceptable.
Is it possible that the only thing our fine young OP did wrong was get caught?

Just asking.

 

[retrox]

Is it possible that the only thing our fine young OP did wrong was get caught?

Thanks DC2, I really didn't want to be the one to say that.

 

[cmdebrecht]

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Yo, smell ya later!

 

[abstractcousin]

Here is perhaps another point of view, although maybe not so popular with so many parents around...

When I was a young lad (miscreant) I did many things in my room (long list) that my parents would have found unacceptable.
Is it possible that the only thing our fine young OP did wrong was get caught?

Just asking.

Hahaa! great point!

thing is, i wasnt realy stealth vaping at the time that i was initially "caught". it was more like an "i thought it would be okay" sort of thing. i kind of planned the situation as a way to break the ice, or vape the ice i guess? (idk lol i tried to make that one work)

my mom came inside the house and i was vaping, and i was all happy to see her, smiling and stuff, mod in hand. I expected a "what the heck! are you smoking in here?" but in a mild tone because she could see the mod in my hand, and because at this point she already knew that i vaped because i told her and i always have my mods out and she doesnt seem to get mad or anything.

then my plan was to say "no, it was the steam from my ecig, sorry for scaring you!" in a joking and positive way. t

then i expected her to ignore it and tell me about her day like she always does when she comes home. however....

she was like "what the F do you think your doing in here!!!" and i was like "sorry mom, i was just using my ecig while you were gone like i always do" and she grabbed my mod and threw it out the door, broke my glass carto tank, and destroyed the threading and the finish on the vamo i was using at the time. i went outside to grab it and i said "mom, why are you so mad right now" and i tried to get back in the house and she shoved me out and closed the door on me.... i got back in, but it was a nightmare trying to calm her down..... when my dad herd what happened, he pinned me up against the wall and told me that he would kick me out of the house and "beat my ..." if he ever caught me "smoking that [moderated] in the house".

the tensions have been eased to where they were before this initial altercation about a year ago, but they knew just enough about the saftey and facts about vaping as they do now.. they also condone the fact that i vape, but this is what it was like before... when mom literaly threw me out and my dad threatened kicking me out (for the first time in my life!!).

i am at a loss. they condone my vaping, understand how it works, understand why it is good for me, know that i vape inside when they are gone, and seem to have an overall understanding about vaping. however if there were a little bit of vape in the air... they would treat me like some sort of drug addict who doesnt deserve to live on this earth..... makes no sence. its like a huge barrier of logic that they cant get past for some unknown reason..


"parents just dont understand!" - will smith. lol. he lives like right by me btw and i know his son, verry funny to watch that video.