No it's not, if you go into someone's house whether to live or even just for a coffee, you respect their rules whether that is not smoking, not vaping or taking your shoes off at the door.
Parents dont let me vape, help.
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No it's not, if you go into someone's house whether to live or even just for a coffee, you respect their rules whether that is not smoking, not vaping or taking your shoes off at the door.
If its the appearance of your ecig that bothers them, maybe get a smaller (cig size) device and ask if they mind you using that device when your at home. They also have some very small-stealth devices available. I have one that looks exactly like a zippo lighter. I had never smoked in my parents home, even when visiting. When I switched to vaping and answered all their questions, I now vape when I go home and its not a problem. I did have a couple juices that my mom mentioned she didn't like the smell of. So, I always make sure and vape a flavor that she likes the smell of (espresso or bakery). Bottom line, its just being considerate to what they prefer in their home. Luckily you live in a warmer climate.
Like I've already said, it sounds like its time to find your own place.
Get a part time job to pay for schooling, a roof over your head, electricity, water, car, insurance and gas.
Then get another pt job to pay for food, soap, shampoo, furniture, bedding, cologne, toilet paper, deodorant, laundry & dish washing detergent, shirts, shoes, socks, pants and underwear.
Then get another job for 'fun' money.
Or do it the easy way,,, follow your parents rules until you're able to fully support yourself.
Challenging my house rules would open many doors for you on your journey towards adult life.
The first one you'd come to is called the front door, when you walk through it this time you're gonna find out life is radically different on the other side.
Good luck, I hope you learn from and enjoy your experience. I know you won't be off work in time for the usual Sunday dinner at 5:30 but if your double shift ends before 10pm you can stop by for leftovers.
Get a part time job to pay for schooling, a roof over your head, electricity, water, car, insurance and gas.
Then get another pt job to pay for food, soap, shampoo, furniture, bedding, cologne, toilet paper, deodorant, laundry & dish washing detergent, shirts, shoes, socks, pants and underwear.
Then get another job for 'fun' money.
Or do it the easy way,,, follow your parents rules until you're able to fully support yourself.
Challenging my house rules would open many doors for you on your journey towards adult life.
The first one you'd come to is called the front door, when you walk through it this time you're gonna find out life is radically different on the other side.
Good luck, I hope you learn from and enjoy your experience. I know you won't be off work in time for the usual Sunday dinner at 5:30 but if your double shift ends before 10pm you can stop by for leftovers.
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It's not ridiculous that someone would have rules you have to abide by. What's ridiculous is to use that trite expression. We're not talking about a child or an adolescent where safety is involved or they're beginning to learn to follow rules. We're talking about an adult child that is living there by mutual consent.
Issues like this are normally discussed and you try to understand where both the parents and 'child' are coming from. Of course it's up to the parents- everyone knows it's their house. But they aren't mindless robots. If they said wear blue underwear every Thursday- you wouldn't repeat 'their house- their rules', you might have a conversation about it. Maybe up their meds.
This seems to me to be the issue abstractcousin. I don't remember if you said earlier what hardware you are using. It's possible a cig-a-like or a pipe mod would help them feel better about it.
You could certainly ask them. Sounds like you guys communicate very well. You're lucky your family is like that and are generally quite accepting of things. You also sound quite mature and I'm sure you will figure things out which ever way it ends up.
Best of luck with it
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haven't read the whole thread, but my non smoking friends and my non smoking wife all call my PV a .. pipe to anyone not in the know it prolly does (removed)
the best argument I have is, nicotine is not the really bad part of a cigarette, nicotine is a stimulant, much like caffeine, and in controlled doses it's really not much different from caffeine. vaping is similar to standing over a pot of stew and breathing in the vapor from that, the vapor itself is harmless and it carries the nicotine with it, but it is nothing like smoking, you are not burning tobacco leaves and inhaling the smoke from something burning which is kind of like inhaling the smoke from a burning building, inhaling smoke is bad, inhaling vapor is not so much.
to anyone not in the know it prolly does (removed)the best argument I have is, nicotine is not the really bad part of a cigarette, nicotine is a stimulant, much like caffeine, and in controlled doses it's really not much different from caffeine. vaping is similar to standing over a pot of stew and breathing in the vapor from that, the vapor itself is harmless and it carries the nicotine with it, but it is nothing like smoking, you are not burning tobacco leaves and inhaling the smoke from something burning which is kind of like inhaling the smoke from a burning building, inhaling smoke is bad, inhaling vapor is not so much.
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Their issue seems to be that they object to the appearance of your apv device and they fear the neighbors (or themselves) think it looks like a something else. That's kinda what I thought the pvs looked like when I first started vaping and I am almost 60.
You are in their home and it sounds like they are being very generous to you in paying for your college and letting you live with them. Respect their wishes. Do not vape in the house or around them. It obviously bothers them on some level. They may not even know why themselves so 'education' and 'explaining' may not bear fruit.
Some things just can not be explained and are best left alone. Leave it be and enjoy your college years. And thank them every day for being such wonderful parents. You could have much bigger problems to worry about.
You are in their home and it sounds like they are being very generous to you in paying for your college and letting you live with them. Respect their wishes. Do not vape in the house or around them. It obviously bothers them on some level. They may not even know why themselves so 'education' and 'explaining' may not bear fruit.
Some things just can not be explained and are best left alone. Leave it be and enjoy your college years. And thank them every day for being such wonderful parents. You could have much bigger problems to worry about.
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Educate without getting irate. Just keep a cool head and let them know it has helped you quit smoking and point out the health benefits of vaping vs smoking. CASAA.com is a great source of info, i would start there.
Cousin, you're probably fighting a losing battle. Facts and science can be unimportant. There will forever be those who observe us exhale any substance other than oxygen and decide that it must be a poison. Even intelligent, reasonable people who understand the difference between smoking and vaping seem to have an instinctive, brief, negative reaction when they view the activity. It's almost as though it's in the genes. This is an uphill battle that we vapors will have for a very long time to come.
You've already done a good job educating your folks. I know it's a hassle, but vape outside. The more you "debate" with them, the harder they'll champion their own viewpoint. Go get your degree and make more money than your dad does.
You've already done a good job educating your folks. I know it's a hassle, but vape outside. The more you "debate" with them, the harder they'll champion their own viewpoint. Go get your degree and make more money than your dad does.
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abstractcousin is not challenging house rules. He is discussing them intelligently and I suspect respectfully with his parents. Suggesting the best solution is to move out over this is a bit much (to say the least). It is certainly not how I deal with my children when they discuss things with me.
way back when ecigs first came out my parents pointed them out to me to see if it was something i could use to cut back on my smoking, and to be able to use in the house (smoke causes my father to have coughing fits, but vapor doesnt). used that cigalike until i ran out of carts for it then didnt feel like paying ~4 cart for that brand so quit using them, later down the road when i used Blu my dad liked the smell of some of the flavors i used, and asked me to use them around him more often (he gets a chuckle from playing 'guess the flavor' when he sees me). then when i got my first mod (Evic) they thought it was something else entirely since it no longer looked like a cigarette anymore, but after explaining to them what it was and why i thoguht it was better they are fine with it and my dad keeps finding different things for me to try to replicate in juice flavors, or something to try to make a mod look like.
Sorry man, but you should just be grateful to have parents that are supporting you through college. I'm 31 years old, have my own house, and still don't vape in front of my parents. They know I do it, they don't particularly care that I do it. I just don't do it in front of them out of respect.
This may sound strange to some, and that's cool, I guess everybody's relationship with their parents is their own. Bottom line, it seems like a ridiculously small price to pay for living at home while working through college.
I kinda doubt you're gonna change your parents' mind on this issue and truth be told, you probably shouldn't be trying to.
This may sound strange to some, and that's cool, I guess everybody's relationship with their parents is their own. Bottom line, it seems like a ridiculously small price to pay for living at home while working through college.
I kinda doubt you're gonna change your parents' mind on this issue and truth be told, you probably shouldn't be trying to.
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Let's please watch the drug references.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ation/255864-why-we-dont-allow-drug-talk.html
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ation/255864-why-we-dont-allow-drug-talk.html
UNTIL you start picking up your end of the tab.
I moved in back into my dad's when economics started hitting. It was big enough for two families, and we ended up sharing the costs. But he always refused the fact of me redecorating my end of the thing. Sore discussions followed. In the end, I think would have been wiser each to have their own.
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To me the above in bold certainly sounds like challenging house rules in a disrespectful fashion.
Obviously the OP has been asked to not vape in the house, folks come home and discover he has ignored their wishes, I get the impression multiple times. (I could be reading too far between the lines)
After he has been caught ignoring their rules now he expects to sit down and have a reasonable intelligent discussion in hopes they change their mind.
The choice to move out wouldn't be his , he already made up his mind to move out when he decided to act out like a child by testing boundaries instead of simply walking outdoors to vape like a respectful young adult.
Did they know you smoked cigarettes?
If they did, I think you might have a good chance of convincing them it's better with a little education.
I hear ya. I guess my parenting style is different from yours. I don't think in this case of testing boundaries kicking him out is warranted. Specially as down to earth as he sounds.
I'm not saying that is always the wrong decision. It happened to us once with our daughter. That was hard, but it worked out well in the end and we have been a (mostly
) happy family since. We did though only resort to it after all attempts at communication failed.
Huh? It's THEIR house. Yes, they can stop him.
That said, it sounds like the OP is being very respectful in his approach, which is great. If the answer is still no, then it's no, but he did go about it respectfully...as it is his parents' house and not his.
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