Anyone else want to modify a magma for bottom feeding?
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I researched and went with the iTaste SVD VV/VW and iClear30's dual coil tanks knowing full well I was going to be wrapping coils as soon as I had it figured it out. Studied mechanicals, battery safety and dialed in some AGA T2's. Then I tried the REO because after watching a few videos it looked waaaaay easier than working the hot spots out of a stainless mesh genny build. The REO is just so much easier all the way around to get a very satisfying vape.
The iTaste iClear combo did the trick well enough to get me off the stinkies but if someone would have set me up with a beginner build REO right up front I would have never looked back.
The iTaste iClear combo did the trick well enough to get me off the stinkies but if someone would have set me up with a beginner build REO right up front I would have never looked back.
Please sir, can I have some Monkey Poo too?... I'm Looking forward to a certain individual returning safely stateside to try some? Mr. Monkey Himself... lol....
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That one looks tricky with its offset posts. Those Atomic RDA clones look interesting though for quick n dirty BF moddin.
The Provari is a great help too... but like the REO, now you have to buy not only the unit, but also rechargeable batteries and a battery charger.
One reason for the MVP is that there is no need for ANY extra equipment or understanding batteries or blowing up concerns (a big deal for those who read anything about the DANGERS *woowoo* of batteries). You have a USB charger, your MVP2 works. If you don't, that's ok, the kit comes with one. And you can convince yourself to carry it around because the MVP2 itself is a spare charger for your cell phone for emergencies... with 3 days of running power out of the gate. You'll be almost quit smoking by the time you need to even recharge it. And you can vape while it's recharging for the first time.
With anything else, you forgot that he has to buy batteries - which are the best batteries?, and a charger (and there's quite a few to consider there too), before he can start vaping. And each type of mod takes a different battery type... 18650? 18500? 18490? 18350? ICR123A? RCR123? 26650? With arguments for which TYPE is best, Protected or Unprotected? NCR or IMR chemistry? Plus the specific top types, button or flat top, since some only take button (Provari), others only take flat (VTR)? Or smaller sizes (BilletBox only takes dual 123s)? What if he would prefer a mini over a standard size? How do you know what weight he likes? I like 18650 sized mods... but I know plenty of people who only want mini. We all like boxes here... but 90% of the vaping world appear to prefer tubes. The MVP2 is a no-brainer. That's not even to start into atomizers... I have over 60 atomizers, and the vast majority are different, from clearos to cartos to glassos to RBA, and which RBA? Kayfun/Russian sized to Cyclone sized, or intermediates like Spheroid sized? Or maybe it would be easiest for him to quit if he gets a pipe type, because he can best relate to that.
The MVP2 is nowhere near the vape pleasure of a REO or Provari... but beginners do not know the difference yet. He'll very quickly evolve to a REO Grand or a Provari if he likes the MVP2, because of course the vape gets better with better gear. I was trying to think of what to compare this to that relates, and I'm thinking maybe fishing analogy?
Would you hand your expensive swordfishing fighting rod and rig to a 5 year old to learn how to love fishing? Or maybe handing your 5 year old an electric Fender Stratocaster guitar to learn how to play a guitar for the first time on because you have spares? It's not the cost, it's the complexity.
I just want all smoke quitters to succeed first. It's almost inevitable they become collectors once they do, but if they don't succeed, the most expensive rig ends up in the classies or gifted, and we all lose something.
It does look tricky but there's gotta be a way. With that "bottom feed" airflow it's impossible to resist. It's one of the things I always loved about the disposables... Always seemed to give just SLIGHTLY fuller flavor. If that center post comes out, I'm certain a hole bored though it lengthwise, than crosswise all the way through ( allowing juice into both wells) would be doable. Not by me, but by someone with skills lol. Like turbo, or peter
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I suspect there are lots of different perspectives and not all of the guys here have been quit a whole lot longer than you. It's only been 5 months since I quit and I didn't even intend to do so. Heck, I had given up on the very idea of quitting years ago. But with all the articles in the press late last year lamenting that that FDA wasn't doing its job 'cause it hadn't yet regulated e-cigs, I figured there might be something to 'em, and I should check 'em out before the government ruined 'em. So in December, I ordered up a Halo Triton starter kit just to see how much of my 36 year old 2 PAD habit I could replace with vaping. I didn't find ECF until after it arrived. Imagine my surprise when on the first full day of using that kit, I went from 40 a day to 4, then to 2 the next day, then to 1 for a couple of days after that. Then I found a vape shop 30 minutes from home, and bought some better stuff (1300 mAh spinners and Pro Tanks) and that was the end of my smoking. I still had 3-1/2 packs of cigs in my drawer. I never made any "commitment" not to smoke 'em; I just didn't particularly feel the need to. In fact, for me, there was considerable comfort in having them available and not having "quit" per se; I've never forbid myself from having one if I really wanted it.
Really? I don't think I could. About 2-1/2 months in, an old friend who I hadn't seen in 5 years stopped by my house to chat. He's still a smoker, so I went outside with him and had one. I was curious how I'd react to it. I enjoyed it at first, but half way through I could feel it starting to do nasty things to my lungs and by the time I got 3/4 of the way through it, I put it out. A few days later I gave him the 3 unopened packs I still had in my drawer and told him: If/when you feel like trying vaping, let me know and I'll hook you up.
Now I'll admit that on those relatively rare occasions when I'm around other smokers, I'm mildly tempted to have one, but I suspect that just like the last time, wouldn't make it the whole way through one. And go back to smoking full-time? NFW! I'll be 55 in a few more weeks and I feel 10 years younger than I did 6 months ago. In some ways, vaping seems like the fountain of youth to me and I'm not giving that up no matter how much more "convenient" a pack of traditional cigs and a Zippo is.
I think the Magma might be interesting to see modded to BF, same for the Atomic. Clones though to start with, as a proof of concept IMO.
If your brain is wired like mine, quitting is impossible. That doesn't mean you can't substitute vaping for smoking; I've done that quite successfully. My recommendation is: Get some gear (it seems like the fine folks here are getting you set up with it) and just see how much of your cigarette habit you can replace with vaping -- without feeling grumpy or miserable. If you feel you need a cig, vape a buch first, then decide if you still really need one. If you do, well go have one. Oh, and if vaping isn't making those cravings go away, get some WTA juice.
Note: Vapor will seem harsh at first. It may take a day or two to get used to it -- just like when you started smoking. But unlike smoke, it doesn't tear up your lungs.
I know you guys are big on giving MFarley a Reo, but I'm not at all convinced that's the right thing to start with. Will it produce a "satisfying" vape to an experienced vaper? Sure. But it's not very controllable to someone just starting out. I remember sitting at my desk in the my office the day I got my Halo Triton starter kit and taking tiny little mouth-only hits from it at first to keep it from making me cough and kicking myself for not having bought the VV batteries so I could turn it down a bit. A few days later, I was kicking myself for not having bought the VV batteries 'cause it was only satisfying for a short while after the batteries came off the charger. I really think that something with variable voltage (or wattage) might be better when one is just starting.
yes, but all I have to send is a REO.
good point on the couple of days thing tho. It may indeed seem a little intense at first, and yet a couple days later, one might be trying to turn up the volume. There's a lot of techniques we can get into as M. gets started. How much air you draw, how hard and how fast makes a big difference with a 1.4mm airhole. Mainly tho, just remembering that it's the opposite of smoking. With that, drawing more air is fueling a fire (literally); here it's adding coolant.
good point on the couple of days thing tho. It may indeed seem a little intense at first, and yet a couple days later, one might be trying to turn up the volume. There's a lot of techniques we can get into as M. gets started. How much air you draw, how hard and how fast makes a big difference with a 1.4mm airhole. Mainly tho, just remembering that it's the opposite of smoking. With that, drawing more air is fueling a fire (literally); here it's adding coolant.
I just did surgery on my Atomic. Vapes as well as a cyclone. (top cap doesnt look as good though....) I drilled-out the center post from the top down and drill the squonk hole at 1/8th inch below the wire hole. The metal was very soft. o:O
I just did surgery on my Atomic. Vapes as well as a cyclone. (top cap doesnt look as good though....) I drilled-out the center post from the top down and drill the squonk hole at 1/8th inch below the wire hole. The metal was very soft. o:O
Was that a legit Atomic, or a clone? How did you get the squonk hole partially showing on the deck also, pulled out the post?
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oh yea.. the details... This is the EH Pro clone. The center post is one piece. I started the hole on the drill press, got about 3/4 of the way through and it started to spin. Then it was just a quick tap on the top and out it came. Measured 1/8" down from the wire hole, center punched a spot and back to the drill press for the squonk hole. Then wash rinse, repeat, coil and vape.
This was a very quick and painless mod.
I agree that disposables are soooo much weaker than real mods... but even now, my husband still smokes... but he's finally down to a pack a day. This is HUGE... he smoked 4 packs a day most of his life. He coughs and gags with PV... but I've finally got him taking to work and using an inexpensive E-pipe w/ a cheap clearo for the past month ... and just last nite, for the FIRST TIME, he asked me for a 'nice' mod like one of my hoards
. But he cannot handle a RBA yet. I think people with diagnosed COPD (Emphysema) have a much harder time with vaping than people who haven't developed it yet. And the damage done is irreversible, even if he quits, unlike the rest of us.I'm finally going to give him the still sealed MVP2 I bought for him 5 months ago... it was too much coughing for him to start with (he's got COPD with already diminished lung capacity). He is not ready for a RBA. The throat hit from a sub-ohm RBA might send him to the hospital. He doesn't have any spare time whatsoever to mess with coils or battery charging or heads, but that's what I'm for. Part of my vaping stuff obsession was finding things he could use... my stuff literally runs the entire gamut of vaping.
Rossum, part of the reason smoking again would be so easy for me is because I'm around it much of the day still. My husband smokes, my son is still smoking too. My son has my old MVP2, and it's helping cut him down severely, but his girlfriend smokes and refuses to try vaping. This is weight related, quitting smoking = gaining weight. When you are 5'8" and weigh 110 lbs, 1 oz gain shows. When your profession requires you to be a certain weight, you can smoke or snort, the choice is not truly a choice for some people.
It is extremely hard to refrain from drinking when you are dying of thirst and surrounded by water. It's why I vape sooooo much juice
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I think the most logical vape progression, which maximizes enjoyment and minimizes cost, is:
MVP2 w/ iclears > Provari w/ carto tanks > Billet Box w/ Carto (you get to use this forever as a backup/take anywhere easier than REO) > Bottom Feeder (REO) w/ small RBA > Mechanicals (DIBI) w/ big or small RBA
Along the way, collecting the same TYPE of mods/atomizers for backups, because batteries and/or atomizer heads are interchangeable.
I just did surgery on my Atomic. Vapes as well as a cyclone. (top cap doesnt look as good though....) I drilled-out the center post from the top down and drill the squonk hole at 1/8th inch below the wire hole. The metal was very soft. o:O
What's the diameter of the atomic?
oh yea.. the details... This is the EH Pro clone. The center post is one piece. I started the hole on the drill press, got about 3/4 of the way through and it started to spin. Then it was just a quick tap on the top and out it came. Measured 1/8" down from the wire hole, center punched a spot and back to the drill press for the squonk hole. Then wash rinse, repeat, coil and vape.
Just as I thought, good stuff gdeal! does the clone have adjustable center pin like some claim?
EDIT: Think the diameter is 19mm at the base, tad wider with the AFC ring.
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