Ah, I think I'm picking up what you're laying down. You must have a good "source".
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Ah, I think I'm picking up what you're laying down. You must have a good "source".
"good" is "wood" . . . . . . with peanut butter stuck to the roof of your mouth.
as in, "sporking fum good"
as in, "sporking fum good"
Just got a few minutes, but would like to get my 2 cents in.
I finally got off cigarettes with a protank and Evic. I got my boy off cigs with a couple of ego twists and iclear clearomizers. (And I am proud of him since he rarely even vapes anymore) I went to drippers and didn't look back at clearos. I went to mechanicals and didn't look back to variable voltage. (till recent boards have reached the power levels I like) pdib and Xo turned me on to bottom feeders and I didn't look back at drippers except I still have 1 I use for taste testing my DIY mixes.
If I knew what I do now and had it all over to do I would start with a Reo Grand and RM2 and read as much as I could in Reoville. The Reo is dependable and built like a tank. I still use one when I feel the conditions are too rough for my OliveR. The RM2 is IMO the best bottom feeder atty for the money and I use them on all my bottom feeders. My pdib OliveR is like a fine tuned high performance sports car, but I wouldn't recommend a new driver start out with one.
As mentioned you are not going to get the same experience as a cigarette, and that is actually a good thing. Finding a flavor that does not remind you of smoking, but that you like will help you break dependence on cigarettes. Your tastes will change fairly quick and you will probably move to different flavors as they do so don't stockpile large quantities of a particular flavor. You will find that cigs are no longer appealing after some time and most find them down right noxious as I do now. Even after over 400 days off smokes my tastes occasionally change and I waffle between fruit and bakery every so often. There are other chemicals in smokes that help give you that calm feeling like the first cig of the day. Nicotine is a stimulant and will not replicate that. You have to vape through it chain vaping at times. Make sure you use a higher nicotine level to start (24 or 36 mg/ml) then after those urges subside in a few weeks or months try lowering it a step at a time till you either find you are at 0 or whatever level you need to maintain. (I use 16 to 20mg/ml as 12 was not enough).
Got to go now, but good luck to you.
That's was certainly a book for a few minutes mundy! You are a valuable resource and friend!
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yeah, I was thinking of sending him some 32mg and some VG on the side to cut it down if necessary. Maybe a .6-.7Ω coil (my airholes are all 1.4 mm and bigger, . . . so).
What got me off decades of cigs was a MVP2. You can buy em anywhere, but I got mine on Ebay from someone with 100% ratings and lots of people thanking them for their speed of shipping and how much they loved their MVP2 in the reviews). It's super super easy to use, and then a couple of spare iclear clearos at the same time (they are cheap, but will still last long enough til you quit smoking).
This will get you used to tinkering just a little bit, because you have to change the heads, and you learn the basics about e-liquid. I think learning to rebuild coils on top of figuring out e-liquid is too much at once. I probably would never have quit if I dived right into a complex mod and got frustrated because I didn't know enough about them. Egos are OK, but it was the MVP2 that made me quit smoking... 3 days of battery life = 1 less thing to think about while I tinkered with juices and the atomizers. Plus, it resembles a fun toy, so you have a better time playing with it than an Ego (oh look! a PUFF COUNTER! I wonder how many puffs I take! Oh look... VV VW! What's that?).
Here's where I got my beginners juice, and I had no regrets at all. First their prices are low, but you get a 20% discount all the time anyway (click top left corner for that to just get added to your cart): E-Liquid and Electronic Cigarette Shop - Category Listings
I picked them because they had a big assortment of tobacco flavors (which for quitting was critical to me... I didn't believe I could quit on fruit or desert flavored nicotine... I mentally needed the 'dirty tobacco' taste at first). Also, they have 100% VG, which is a pain in the .... to vape because it's really thick, but less throat irritation to start. Also, you can buy in teeny sample sizes, so you don't have a bunch of icky juice flavors you don't like off the bat. Plus they have reviews for flavors, which is positive reinforcement.
Good luck, you can do it
!Edited: just read Mundy's note...
I have to disagree. Just the MVP2 and a no brainer refill iclear was a lot to wrap my brain around... not because it was complex, but because at the beginning, it was WHAT I vaped that was the deciding factor in quitting, not what I was vaping it IN. If I had to fiddle with the container the juice was coming from to start also, I most likely would have sent the entire thing to the same place I sent the $360 box of Chantix, trash.
I intensely remember the anger and frustration after my first few days trying to quit. You are at a patience level of zero. It has to be easy, not complex. You can only replace 1 chem out of the 499 you are actually addicted to... even with the MVP2, I was an emotional wreck with the patience of a gnat while quitting. That would not have been the time to figure out the 500 different opinions on what the best coil wrap looks like, or the best wick to use.
Once you are quit, you have a whole lot of leisure to sort your options... but if you have to figure it all out first, when you get that box of cotton balls, bare wire, and teensy metal thing that needs to be sterilized that you have to thread like a needle, not once but at least 2x (also involving buying tweezers, wire cutters, magnifying lamp, electronic helping hands, etc etc, and an entire room to clear out to dedicate to the tens of thousands of dollars worth of stuff you will think you need to play at this level)... I think he should start simpler.
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I think maybe my perspective on quitting is different because I have barely quit 6 months, while you guys have been quit a whole lot longer. The collecting mods and atomizers is for pumping up the guilt level... I have put wayyy too much money into this to not actually USE it, and obsessing about my 'collection' keeps me quit. But the truth is, any second of any day, I could pick up a cig and be a smoker again. I don't do it because of my vape 'hobby'. But I had to get to the quit commitment and REWARD myself with more toys to keep quit, if that makes sense.
If I started out at the top of the vape chain, buying the most expensive toys at the start, and if the difficulty and complexity frustrated while I am mentally in agony, I know for a fact I would have given up. And once I gave up, I would never try it again, because you could then tell yourself that if a $300 mod couldn't get you to quit, how's a $40 mod going to? When the truth is, the $40 mod is far far far easier to use in every possible way.
Even now, I own some of the most expensive mods made, and lots of em... And at least once a day, I'm vaping on my $40 mods, just for the sheer convenience of filling them with juice and vaping. No fiddling for hours with wires, cotton balls, dry hits, batteries, switches, positioning the tops, waiting for batteries to charge, dry burning coils, ugh.
The cheapos never leave my desk for very good reason, they are EASY to use, even if they aren't as nice a vape, and sometimes, I just want something easy to use.
If I started out at the top of the vape chain, buying the most expensive toys at the start, and if the difficulty and complexity frustrated while I am mentally in agony, I know for a fact I would have given up. And once I gave up, I would never try it again, because you could then tell yourself that if a $300 mod couldn't get you to quit, how's a $40 mod going to? When the truth is, the $40 mod is far far far easier to use in every possible way.
Even now, I own some of the most expensive mods made, and lots of em... And at least once a day, I'm vaping on my $40 mods, just for the sheer convenience of filling them with juice and vaping. No fiddling for hours with wires, cotton balls, dry hits, batteries, switches, positioning the tops, waiting for batteries to charge, dry burning coils, ugh.
The cheapos never leave my desk for very good reason, they are EASY to use, even if they aren't as nice a vape, and sometimes, I just want something easy to use.
You must have picked some good cheapoes than. A disposable dripping atty and an ego was the closest I got to cheapo easy vape
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The way I dealt with that was by getting obsessive about coil building, and figuring out how to wring a satisfying/reliable vape out of affordable gear. It was certainly frustrating at times.
the bottom line is you also gotta really want it, just having a nice mod handed to you does not a quitter make... I have bought various mods for various people I know through the years and not one of them stuck with it. why? it's not easy, and it's frustrating at times and problematic at times and there is a definite learning curve, AND there is nothing easier than striking a match or a lighter and ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.............. yeah, you gotta also really want it, but the good news is that ecigs will decrease the agony of trying to quit buy like 70% I'd say if you have a little patience and will power and really want to make it work, and yeah I'm the guy who keeps dropping my koa 
you got an awesome head start with peter hooking you up with a starter setup and you now have one of the best resources and support groups there are, good luck and keep on, you can do it if you really try, there's no doubt....
you got an awesome head start with peter hooking you up with a starter setup and you now have one of the best resources and support groups there are, good luck and keep on, you can do it if you really try, there's no doubt....
Oh it's the good wood guy! Welcome to the board!
A Reo is a good first choice. If you aren't into rebuilding yet, you might want to try some of the other ready-made 510 atomizers. Rebuilding an atomizer like the RM2 requires a bit of know-how and patience. As a former smoker, I know that part of the pleasures of smoking was just being able to pick up a pack and light up a stick. An off-the-shelf atomizer + a Reo does just that. You can still buy a rebuildable atomizer and fiddle with it and vape off those disposable atties/cartos while you are on it.
I'm itching to buy that Bog Oak block from you. Just thinking how I can explain another DiBi/OliveR to my wife when it arrives next year.
Welcome to the board! A Reo is a good first choice. If you aren't into rebuilding yet, you might want to try some of the other ready-made 510 atomizers. Rebuilding an atomizer like the RM2 requires a bit of know-how and patience. As a former smoker, I know that part of the pleasures of smoking was just being able to pick up a pack and light up a stick. An off-the-shelf atomizer + a Reo does just that. You can still buy a rebuildable atomizer and fiddle with it and vape off those disposable atties/cartos while you are on it.
I'm itching to buy that Bog Oak block from you. Just thinking how I can explain another DiBi/OliveR to my wife when it arrives next year.
I've still got some of those 1.7Ω "resurrector" cartos, I'll throw one of those in too. Main thing tho, is the charger. I've got some used MNKEs I can send, but I don't have a spare charger.
I have one of these I can send.
dude! that's so cool! we can hash out the details by PM, k?
aaaahhhh .. . .. but we all know what happens when someone sends you a dibi.
.. no DiBi DANCE for you!...
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