PDIB's Making MODs!

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MamaTried

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Maybe you should find a way to make 150 a month before letting the reviewers at it?? How will you deal with a fickle audience who can't wait 2 weeks let alone 2 years for one if you get overwhelmed:p?

methinks if he did 150/mo your next mod may finally have a signature, but it'll be from one of those guys standing in front of HD that dibby had to hire...

Yo, Mamacita, esto es para ti- pibbo pdib
 

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methinks if he did 150/mo your next mod may finally have a signature, but it'll be from one of those guys standing in front of HD that dibby had to hire...

Yo, Mamacita, esto es para ti- pibbo pdib

If he got one of those CNC machines, he could do it... Rob can do it... He can make regular ones and custom ones, right:)?

My point was... how can he make more than he's making now if the reviewers send 200 people over here that he needs a review:p?
 

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The time consuming part of this is the attention to detail in every part made by Peter, If he were to get minions or sub out you would lose that touch, that sense of pride that goes into every part. I'm feel very fortunate to be able to get some 100% pdib originals.

I do hope it takes off for Peter and he can get some minions to pump out a bunch of mods, but they won't be the same as owning an OliveR. Maybe close but not the same.
 

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No... Rob does metal mods, that are pretty much stock, and he makes wood ones, by hand, and the runs take months...


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Rob has a laser wood cutting contraption that I saw a video of (I THINK in the woodvil thread, but it's way too long to check for now). It was very kewl!! That's why he's able to cut very brittle woods that pdib cannot work with. It's a pretty quick machine. I'm sure he spends the majority of his time wiring them and finishing. I also recall him saying 2 months for 300 woodvil... of day and night work (and probably 2 people doing it, not 1).

I love my Woodvil, but I can tell from just the photos the finish doesn't compare to a Dibi. It'd better not, my dibi cost $200 more than my Woodvils, and I bought no blems. For what I paid for the Woodvil's, I didn't mind refinishing both woodvils 2x to meet my standard of what the mod should look like ... I'd better not have to do that with a Dibi... but I can see already from the pix that I won't have to. And that's why I paid more for it:).
 

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The time consuming part of this is the attention to detail in every part made by Peter, If he were to get minions or sub out you would lose that touch, that sense of pride that goes into every part. I'm feel very fortunate to be able to get some 100% pdib originals.

I do hope it takes off for Peter and he can get some minions to pump out a bunch of mods, but they won't be the same as owning an OliveR. Maybe close but not the same.

I hope he can increase production too, but I suspect that these here are as good as they are going to get. The greater the production, the less attention to detail, and the prices will drop... but they won't be the same mods they are now either:).
 

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Rob uses a CNC router to cut the bodies for the Woodvil and does the doors fitting by hand.

MoN... the woodvil bodies are IDENTICAL to each other. There is no human who can cut 2 completely different pieces of wood to be that symmetrical. Pdib can't, that's why none of the tops and bottom for our dibi are interchangeable. This is hand crafting vs partial machine crafting... and that's the difference in the price. We pay extra for human error and eyeball precision vs laser precision, as we should:).

This is the difference between a $26,000 12" Chihuly glass bowl vs a $10 Walmart glass punchbowl, both made of the same glass.
 

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MoN... the woodvil bodies are IDENTICAL to each other. There is no human who can cut 2 completely different pieces of wood to be that symmetrical. Pdib can't, that's why none of the tops and bottom for our dibi are interchangeable. This is hand crafting vs partial machine crafting... and that's the difference in the price. We pay extra for human error and eyeball precision vs laser precision, as we should:).

This is the difference between a $26,000 12" Chihuly glass bowl vs a $10 Walmart glass punchbowl, both made of the same glass.

I agree with you, I do, but the Woodvils have more hand working than grands, was my point really. Which is why one is always in stock and one goes in runs. . I'm not saying the Woodvils are as hand spun as an OliveR... I'm saying there's a reason for limited supply. Craftsmanship equals less available equal more hands on. I'm pretty sure were in the same book, just reading different paragraphs xoxo


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I agree with you, I do, but the Woodvils have more hand working than grands, was my point really. Which is why one is always in stock and one goes in runs. . I'm not saying the Woodvils are as hand spun as an OliveR... I'm saying there's a reason for limited supply. Craftsmanship equals less available equal more hands on. I'm pretty sure were in the same book, just reading different paragraphs xoxo

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Oh totally. I'm not trying to minimize Rob's Woodvils, they are works of art too.. but they are partially machined, and there is a difference. Other thing is pdib's design, these are wood mods designed for sub-ohm... right now, there's no other wood sub-ohm mods either:). And that's not to mention the customizing with your own wood... who else does that:)?
 

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Exclusivity definitely provides an allure to me. Knowing it was hand made by one dude means a lot to me. I understand supplying the demand but I also really enjoy small batch stuff. Kinda what got me into making beer. Most of my beers are unique because I change the recipe every time by a little bit depending one what's in stock and I enjoy little randomness brought on by hand made/small batch stuff. I mean pdib has to pay the bills and if that means a CNC or minions so be it, that's his call. But I'll appreciate the ones made by hand the most, even if that means I only get to own one or two. :D
 

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Farkin' phonecam!

Anyway, trying to post my Santos Mahogany Dibi/RM2. I sanded the finish down to brass. Letting it get some patina to see if I like it better than shiny. Haven't decided yet.
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I gotta say, posting my question in the background was a nice touch. ;) The brass looks great from where I'm sittin!
 

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Personally I'm attracted to the fact that no 2 dibis are identical. We each have a 1 of a kind.

As far as *reviewers* are concerned I think if they want one bad enough ..... and I don't care who or how high profile the reviewer is ..... they need to pay for one and review it at their hearts content.

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I think minions are underrated :D

we ALL appreciate you, MoN :)


Seriously,
i once tried talking pdib into CNC and farming out stuff back before the first run, methinks. He said nope-- he gets pleasure from making them by hand. the craftmanship seems to be more important to the bee. ya gotta respect that. after all, bees are kinda getting endangered these days...

that said, i'd happily front the cost of one o them open source CNC machines :)
 

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I agree that the OliveR is well worth the price because it's made by hand with great attention to detail as well as functionality. There's no way I'm going to drop $300 on a machine produced tube mech. Until the great folks on ecf converted me to bottom feeders, (I've bought two in the last 6 weeks) I only bought clones that I had to tinker with to get them to work right.
 
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