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[glassgal]

Wait, what? Can that actually happen? some of bottles I use are close to a year old

I don't know, I'm not a plastic manufacturer... but I know that some flavors are tank crackers. That's clear plastic tanks so you can see the cracks. What happens to plastic when it's squishy and you can't see the cracks? Where's the extra plastic going?

I just don't like squeezing bottles unless I have to, and I'm not fond of plastic bottles. But we don't have any other choices.

 

[glassgal]

Speaking of wicking... I don't understand why everyone uses cotton, but no one's tried wool. Wool is the most fireproof natural substance that can be made into yarn... temperature resistance blows away cotton. Does it taste bad or something?

For the adventurous, here's a nifty site that sells a bunch of different natural fibers to try: Spinning Fiber - Flax, Hemp & Ramie

 

[Megan Kogijiki Ratchford]

Speaking of wicking... I don't understand why everyone uses cotton, but no one's tried wool. Wool is the most fireproof natural substance that can be made into yarn... temperature resistance blows away cotton. Does it taste bad or something?

For the adventurous, here's a nifty site that sells a bunch of different natural fibers to try: Spinning Fiber - Flax, Hemp & Ramie

Wool? You're kidding, right? It is naturally water resistant due to the lanolin...talk about a real bad wick material!!

ETA: But that site is awesome! Thanks for that!

 

[Alexander Mundy]

I remember several people trying wool but not having much success. If I remember it was not that great at wicking. (But my memory is not that great anymore)

Edit: Ninja'ed by Megan.

 

[Megan Kogijiki Ratchford]

I remember several people trying wool but not having much success. If I remember it was not that great at wicking. (But my memory is not that great anymore)

Edit: Ninja'ed by Megan.

AHAHAHAHA!!!! Hot wet sheep vaping coming up next!!! OMG, I'm dying here...

Thats why you wear wool when in the back country in winter. Any water that hits you stays on the surface of the clothing and does not soak though to your skin so you stay warmer...

 

[Alexander Mundy]

As long as it's not sweaty socks.

 

[glassgal]

Wool? You're kidding, right? It is naturally water resistant due to the lanolin...talk about a real bad wick material!!

ETA: But that site is awesome! Thanks for that!

Oh yah... lanolin...

Has anyone tried kevlar or nymex?

I thought organic cotton balls was the best, but you guys keep coming up with more stuff

 

[MasterofNone]

Kevlar! Now that sounds like one bulletproof setup!



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[pdib]

I don't know, I'm not a plastic manufacturer... but I know that some flavors are tank crackers. That's clear plastic tanks so you can see the cracks. What happens to plastic when it's squishy and you can't see the cracks? Where's the extra plastic going?

I can see that there's a lot of energetic thinking going on. Good thinking, in so many ways . . . . .. but it has a certain lack of syllogistic symmetry. If plastic "A" forms cracks, and plastic "B" doesn't show cracks, it does not follow that you are vaping up secret cracks in plastic "B".

 

[Xobeloot]

So where does the juice come out from when you squonk? Between the nuts on your post?

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[glassgal]

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Ok.. there's something WRONG with that pix.... I see nuts... but isn't there supposed to be some kind of post between them?

 

[MasterofNone]

Squirrels... Ahem.
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[turbocad6]

That's nifty looking! But I don't like total suckback, I don't want to squonk all the time, it just weakens the plastic bottle and risks breaking it up internally so I'm vaping plastic faster.

I think the scariest weak link in bottom feeders is the juice bottle. It has to be squishy plastic, and squishy plastics tend to be the most easy to affect with the flavor oils. Squeezing it all the time just enhances the deterioration speed and risk.

wow gg that is exactly how I felt when I first got into bf, I even had a thread about building a glass tank bf here http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...n/454929-building-ultimate-bottom-feeder.html I do still want to build something, been thinking about it again lately. I just picked up a rectangular 6000mah lipo pack, that pared with a rectangular tank, you'd be able to get like triple the capacity into something similar in size to a woodvil not to mention not having to use a soft bottle, but until then, dibi and woodvil all the way

And where does one get this magical ramie fiber?

I got mine from the same place gg just linked

 

[glassgal]

I can see that there's a lot of energetic thinking going on. Good thinking, in so many ways . . . . .. but it has a certain lack of syllogistic symmetry. If plastic "A" forms cracks, and plastic "B" doesn't show cracks, it does not follow that you are vaping up secret cracks in plastic "B".

LOL! Well... it's the soft plastics they make with BPA. Then... they said BPA caused all kinds of diseases and made manufacturers stop using BPA... but THEN... : The Scary New Evidence on BPA-Free Plastics | Mother Jones

These results mirrored the lab's findings in its broader National Institutes of Health-funded research on BPA-free plastics. CertiChem and its founder, George Bittner, who is also a professor of neurobiology at the University of Texas-Austin, had recently coauthored a paper in the NIH journal Environmental Health Perspectives. It reported that "almost all" commercially available plastics that were tested leached synthetic estrogens—even when they weren't exposed to conditions known to unlock potentially harmful chemicals, such as the heat of a microwave, the steam of a dishwasher, or the sun's ultraviolet rays. According to Bittner's research, some BPA-free products actually released synthetic estrogens that were more potent than BPA.

Sooooo...remember our popcorn smelling discussion? That the reason popcorn flavor was bad was due to the diacetyl? And... then we find out that nearly ALL diacetyl substitutes tested were just as bad as diacetyl anyway?

Well... BPA is bad in plastic. And... er... all BPA substituted plastics tested out with the same result as BPA plastic.

And all soft plastic has BPA substitutes, because they used to all be BPA plastics, since BPA is what makes plastic soft. Uh.

However, I do see the logic in your perspective on the lack of syllogistic symmetry on my first comment.

 

[glassgal]

wow gg that is exactly how I felt when I first got into bf, I even had a thread about building a glass tank bf here http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...n/454929-building-ultimate-bottom-feeder.html I do still want to build something, been thinking about it again lately. I just picked up a rectangular 6000mah lipo pack, that pared with a rectangular tank, you'd be able to get like triple the capacity into something similar in size to a woodvil not to mention not having to use a soft bottle, but until then, dibi and woodvil all the way

I got mine from the same place gg just linked

If you could figure out a way to suction a bottom feeder tank... I'll make you the square glass tanks to fit your mod. I'm serious.

 

[turbocad6]

I'm thinking more like a very thin stainless steel tank with just one of the narrow sides being glass, a window maybe 10mm wide and 75mm tall for example, the window is just to be able to see fluid level, a full glass tank would waste space and and add bulk and weight

 

[glassgal]

I'm thinking more like a very thin stainless steel tank with just one of the narrow sides being glass, a window maybe 10mm wide and 75mm tall for example, the window is just to be able to see fluid level, a full glass tank would waste space and and add bulk and weight

Blown glass can be less than a mm thick. Unfortunately, it can break very easily at that thickness. HOWEVER... protected from 3 sides it would only have 1 exposed face to break. What would be the danger is dropping it, glass has ridiculous tensile strength, just no impact strength. You can't cut a diamond except with another diamond... but you can shatter one by dropping or banging on a hard surface.

Stainless steel would be good, but how would you mount the glass on the face without leaking? If you went with a hard plastic, it would crack/deteriorate over time anyway. You can silicone the glass onto it maybe like a fishtank... but not sure what might leach into the juice through the silicone... juice isn't like water, it can be acidic, alkaline, or corrosive (most essential oils will dissolve plastic. Many juices contain essential oil.... peppermint being one of the worst. Cinnamon is another. Anise - licorice another. Clove another. These are all contained in LARGE quantities in some of the most popular juices... like Pluid).

 

[pdib]

Segue . . . .


I just want to make sure everyone saw this.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/rebuildable-atomizer-systems/562106-ecf-sub-ohm-advisory.html

It's not just about subΩ vaping. It's also about battery safety and the butter/cream flavors that Glass mentioned. The reason I bring it up is because something that I have long suspected (based on whatever knowledge I've happened to bump into) seems to be proving out. It may result in design changes, or optional design changes.

 

[e30ernest]

I read that a few days back. However, wouldn't the liquid keep the coil at a relatively constant temperature (it's boiling/vaporization point)? With the proper airflow, wouldn't the temperature remain close to vaping at lower watts?

 

[glassgal]

Segue . . . .


I just want to make sure everyone saw this.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/rebuildable-atomizer-systems/562106-ecf-sub-ohm-advisory.html

It's not just about subΩ vaping. It's also about battery safety and the butter/cream flavors that Glass mentioned. The reason I bring it up is because something that I have long suspected (based on whatever knowledge I've happened to bump into) seems to be proving out. It may result in design changes, or optional design changes.

Those dangers have very little on the risks of inhaling melted plastics I think... and that's a sort of new finding... (that while we got all upset about BPA, the plastic subs are also obviously molecular similar to BPA and have the same effects).

I vape no lower than .8 ... I'm not sure the super-heating is all THAT much risk, depending on what temp they consider super heating. It's obviously not hot enough to burst into flames for example...