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Itshak

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I've placed orders for some small parts with esmoke, and took the risk of using the cheapest shipping, no insurance or tracking. Both packages took about a week to get here. The Garden City vape Monster did not devour them.

I use only this method for all my orders and it work great.
No buddy is massing with the envelops.

Work better then any other shipment I got from all over the world,
In two years of vaping.
Maybe it's Greek stamps lol.
 

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Stan you have an amazing ability to buy something of great beauty and turn them into a total freak show

my stomach gets a little upset when i see most of your Pic's

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:blink:You and your little upset stomach are wellcome :blink:
i will do my best to give you
:pwhat you need:p
 

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So I did a little testing on my heat issue with the v2. I took her apart, cleaned her, inspected her for damage or bad threads - nothing, she is perfect, and may I add that the threads and all seem a bit smoother than my Ithaka.

When I use the included drip tip, the top of the mouthpiece, where the drip tip screws in, gets uncomfortably hot after about 4-5 drags.

When I use my own drip tip, it remains reasonably cool, cool enough so I can continue chain vaping for a while before I start feeling heat on the mouthpiece and the drip tip.

I then tried chain vaping with no drip tip, drawing straight from the top of the mouthpiece where the drip tip normally is inserted. Same behavior, minimal heat buildup, I can chain vape for a while before it starts getting hot, and the heat never becomes unbearable, just noticeable.

Somehow, attaching the included AC drip tip causes heat to build up on the mouthpiece that screws into the coil assembly, Setting the AC tip to looser or tighter airflow does not change the rate at which this heat builds up - 4-5 draws, and my lips cannot touch the mouthpiece, as it is scalding hot.

I know this is not a general v2 issue, I've already talked to 2 others who did not have any such issue with their Pennys.

Any suggestions? The ingenious AC was one of the biggest selling points, so I don't want to have to give it up to use the v2, especially since I do not like the airy draw you get when using no drip tip or your own drip tip.
 

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So I did a little testing on my heat issue with the v2. I took her apart, cleaned her, inspected her for damage or bad threads - nothing, she is perfect, and may I add that the threads and all seem a bit smoother than my Ithaka.

When I use the included drip tip, the top of the mouthpiece, where the drip tip screws in, gets uncomfortably hot after about 4-5 drags.

When I use my own drip tip, it remains reasonably cool, cool enough so I can continue chain vaping for a while before I start feeling heat on the mouthpiece and the drip tip.

I then tried chain vaping with no drip tip, drawing straight from the top of the mouthpiece where the drip tip normally is inserted. Same behavior, minimal heat buildup, I can chain vape for a while before it starts getting hot, and the heat never becomes unbearable, just noticeable.

Somehow, attaching the included AC drip tip causes heat to build up on the mouthpiece that screws into the coil assembly, Setting the AC tip to looser or tighter airflow does not change the rate at which this heat builds up - 4-5 draws, and my lips cannot touch the mouthpiece, as it is scalding hot.

I know this is not a general v2 issue, I've already talked to 2 others who did not have any such issue with their Pennys.

Any suggestions? The ingenious AC was one of the biggest selling points, so I don't want to have to give it up to use the v2, especially since I do not like the airy draw you get when using no drip tip or your own drip tip.

Have you tried with a plastic delrin? if you have the same symptoms then it is normal. I mean it is expected. I realized one of the reasons the included AC tip is not preferred for me is that the darn thing doesn't pick up heat. It is because it does not have direct contact with the mouthpiece, only through the o-ring. And I am thinking this will keep heat inside the mouthpiece.
 

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Okay, been away for a bit, did my first build on my v2 and have 2 issues:

1. No flavor at all. I boiled all parts, soaked them and my bobas tastes like nothing, actually tastes like machining oil. I have the same issue on my v1 but I thought this was fixed

2. The adjustable air on mouthpiece keeps falling out in my mouth after a few drags . For me to get any air to pass through I have to open almost all the way then the tip falls off. If I screw it down to where it's more secure I get no air. Using it on justGG. Am I missing something?

And this is the first gg product I have ever received where the threads were not smooth at all. When I went to unscrew mouthpiece from rebuildable it was so tight and didn't feel right. Maybe whoever assembled it cross threaded it. I cleaned it good and wire brushed the threads to remove any burs or leftover metal from machining and it's still not smooth at all. Am I alone or did others have this issue?
 

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Have you tried with a plastic delrin? if you have the same symptoms then it is normal. I mean it is expected. I realized one of the reasons the included AC tip is not preferred for me is that the darn thing doesn't pick up heat. It is because it does not have direct contact with the mouthpiece, only through the o-ring. And I am thinking this will keep heat inside the mouthpiece.

The included AC tip does have contact with the mouthpiece, it screws in as part of the AC function, so metal touches metal.

Any other metal drip tip, and there is no problem with heat. Vaping off the naked mouthpiece also works fine, it only gets a bit warm, as with any atty, nowhere near uncomfortable. just what I expect as normal.

My assumption: somehow, attaching the included AC tip seems to draw a tremendous amount of heat away from the coil assembly and onto the mouthpiece. Since the included AC tip is very short, my lips must go past it and touch the mouthpiece, and get scalded.

Two others, who own more than one Penny v2 each, do not reproduce this at all, so I know this is my Penny - and only one other person, Yaya, has reported this behavior so far.
 

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The included AC tip does have contact with the mouthpiece, it screws in as part of the AC function, so metal touches metal.

Any other metal drip tip, and there is no problem with heat. Vaping off the naked mouthpiece also works fine, it only gets a bit warm, as with any atty, nowhere near uncomfortable. just what I expect as normal.

My assumption: somehow, attaching the included AC tip seems to draw a tremendous amount of heat away from the coil assembly and onto the mouthpiece. Since the included AC tip is very short, my lips must go past it and touch the mouthpiece, and get scalded.

Two others, who own more than one Penny v2 each, do not reproduce this at all, so I know this is my Penny - and only one other person, Yaya, has reported this behavior so far.

So I tried something a bit different. I vaped the Penny without the tube attached.

Without the AC tip, vaping straight from the mouthpiece, I can vape indefinitely (I got to around 25 drags before the cotton started going dry) and the mouthpiece remains reasonably cool. The heat from the lower bowl does not transfer to the upper portion of the mouthpiece.

When I attached the AC tip, I can only take 4-5 drags before the mouthpiece gets scalding hot. The lower bowl attached to the coil assembly is about the same temperature as it was when the AC tip was not attached. So this isn't heat that is increasing in the lower area and then radiating upwards through the mouthpiece, because the lower bowl seems to be about the same temperature with or without AC tip.

I am at an utter loss about what to do here.
 

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This AC tip does something. It does not take heat at all. This also confirms people saying there is fake air or the flavor is not as it is supposed to be. The air going through this tip is cold as well as the tip itself. touching by the threading is not enough I would say. The only thing special about this tip is that it hangs by an oring. I am not sure what is happening but your story and the weak flavor are correlated for sure.
EDIT: I also suspect the way the air is split into 2, that could be doing something.
 

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This AC tip does something. It does not take heat at all. This also confirms people saying there is fake air or the flavor is not as it is supposed to be. The air going through this tip is cold as well as the tip itself. touching by the threading is not enough I would say. The only thing special about this tip is that it hangs by an oring. I am not sure what is happening but your story and the weak flavor are correlated for sure.
EDIT: I also suspect the way the air is split into 2, that could be doing something.


less humidity particles going out.
regular air from center post move free,
as nothing can stop only air unless
it's fully close.
it's only more air volume per atomize humidity come out.
as the DT act like some humidity trap.
just a different bland of air volume vs humidity.
it's not fake only less take.(on atomized vapor)
it's work like a kind of filter/separator.
put regular DT or new MP eliminate that
if you don't want it to be so.
 
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I am not having any issues with flavor myself. In fact, I built an identical 1.3 ohm microcoil to my Ithaka, and used the same juice, VCV Nutty Cookie, which I know performs best in my Ithaka. I vaped them side-by-side, and flavor is identical, while vapor is a bit less in Penny v2 - marginally less, though. I don't care about vapor clouds, I care about flavor, so this to me is just fine.

Again, just to re-iterate, I know this is not some flaw in Penny v2, it is a flaw only in my Penny v2. I wish I had a second v2, which would in all likelihood behave like almost every other v2, without the heat issues, so I could swap out parts to identify the one causing the issue. i suspect this is the only way to figure this issue out.
 

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Also, the AC tip itself is not overheating, it actually stays pretty cool. So heat is not transferring to the AC tip, it is remaining on the top of the mouthpiece. If the AC tip was a bit longer, I would not even care, as it would be long enough so my lips would not touch the mouthpiece at all.

I might try a generic coil using 32g R, to see if perhaps the microcoil is the culprit here.
 
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